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	<title>Comments on: Google three-wheel school invasion</title>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-977028</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Google street van can be annoying, but I don&#039;t think they are as bad as the press. Just have a newsworthy tragedy happen to your family, and they will be camped out on your lawn stuffing a mic in your face asking &quot;How do you feel&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Google street van can be annoying, but I don&#8217;t think they are as bad as the press. Just have a newsworthy tragedy happen to your family, and they will be camped out on your lawn stuffing a mic in your face asking &#8220;How do you feel&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-977026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Google Health and Google’s Chrome browser/user tracking tool&quot;

Street View is just a part of the same parcel. IMO, nothing Google does is separate from other elements.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Google Health and Google’s Chrome browser/user tracking tool&#8221;</p>
<p>Street View is just a part of the same parcel. IMO, nothing Google does is separate from other elements.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: SteelWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-977021</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that one shouldn&#039;t be required to ask permission to photograph something anybody can see with their eyes no problem. Insides of buildings, gated or private drives, building complexes - those all are unavailable to pedestrians and any Google-led photography of them absolutely needs to be &quot;explicit permission required.&quot; But something you can clearly see just walking down the street? That&#039;s what hedges are for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that one shouldn&#8217;t be required to ask permission to photograph something anybody can see with their eyes no problem. Insides of buildings, gated or private drives, building complexes &#8211; those all are unavailable to pedestrians and any Google-led photography of them absolutely needs to be &#8220;explicit permission required.&#8221; But something you can clearly see just walking down the street? That&#8217;s what hedges are for.</p>
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		<title>By: SteelWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-977020</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Reader&#039;s Write has the right point. The outside of your house is not private and there is no reasonable expectation that it is. It seems to me that anything visible from public property is fair game to be photographed and used for any purpose - am I wrong in thinking this?

I do think that Google &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; made mistakes in this project, but I think the spirit of the project is fine - an opinion that seems to run contrary to that of many sites I nearly always agree with. Personally, I am much more concerned about projects like Google Health and Google&#039;s Chrome browser/user tracking tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Reader&#8217;s Write has the right point. The outside of your house is not private and there is no reasonable expectation that it is. It seems to me that anything visible from public property is fair game to be photographed and used for any purpose &#8211; am I wrong in thinking this?</p>
<p>I do think that Google <i>has</i> made mistakes in this project, but I think the spirit of the project is fine &#8211; an opinion that seems to run contrary to that of many sites I nearly always agree with. Personally, I am much more concerned about projects like Google Health and Google&#8217;s Chrome browser/user tracking tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-977016</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Here’s what Street View would look like ...&quot;

heh. Good one.  ;)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here’s what Street View would look like &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>heh. Good one.  <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-977001</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m not saying it should be barred from foisting Street View. But I am saying no one should have been Opted In without their express consent. And I’ll keep on saying it. And the same thing should apply to everything Google does.&quot;

Here&#039;s what Street View would look like if they were required to get everyone&#039;s consent before using publically taken photos;

http://i39.tinypic.com/2m4yvq9.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not saying it should be barred from foisting Street View. But I am saying no one should have been Opted In without their express consent. And I’ll keep on saying it. And the same thing should apply to everything Google does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what Street View would look like if they were required to get everyone&#8217;s consent before using publically taken photos;</p>
<p><a href="http://i39.tinypic.com/2m4yvq9.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i39.tinypic.com/2m4yvq9.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976993</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bedroom view would rock. 

-Think of the furniture you could look at instead of waking to a store!
-Think of the bed-spread colors against different walls colors you could look at
-Think of how you could check if more people are hardwood floors or carpeting

All for FREE*!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bedroom view would rock. </p>
<p>-Think of the furniture you could look at instead of waking to a store!<br />
-Think of the bed-spread colors against different walls colors you could look at<br />
-Think of how you could check if more people are hardwood floors or carpeting</p>
<p>All for FREE*!</p>
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		<title>By: RadialSkid</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976987</link>
		<dc:creator>RadialSkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What &quot;privacy?&quot; The moment Google introduces Bedroom View, I&#039;ll be all against it. Your homes are publicly visible, whether you like it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8220;privacy?&#8221; The moment Google introduces Bedroom View, I&#8217;ll be all against it. Your homes are publicly visible, whether you like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976976</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SteelWolf  said: &quot;I don’t see how that is different than any other company donating funds or equipment&quot;

What if the donor only gave the goods on condition of you relieving yourself of some privacy?

What if this &quot;free&quot; product (ie. donation) is something many don&#039;t want or care to have?

What if this &quot;free&quot; product (which I&#039;m sure will be of value to business end-users of google-real-estate) is generating $ at the loss of your privacy?

What if this &quot;free&quot; donation is something people who don&#039;t care for computers want?

What if this &quot;free&quot; virtual donation is something people who don&#039;t care for computers, or don&#039;t have a computer, don&#039;t even know what it&#039;s about?

Is it ok to just take w/o everyone knowing?

Sure are a lot of things hidden behind &quot;free&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteelWolf  said: &#8220;I don’t see how that is different than any other company donating funds or equipment&#8221;</p>
<p>What if the donor only gave the goods on condition of you relieving yourself of some privacy?</p>
<p>What if this &#8220;free&#8221; product (ie. donation) is something many don&#8217;t want or care to have?</p>
<p>What if this &#8220;free&#8221; product (which I&#8217;m sure will be of value to business end-users of google-real-estate) is generating $ at the loss of your privacy?</p>
<p>What if this &#8220;free&#8221; donation is something people who don&#8217;t care for computers want?</p>
<p>What if this &#8220;free&#8221; virtual donation is something people who don&#8217;t care for computers, or don&#8217;t have a computer, don&#8217;t even know what it&#8217;s about?</p>
<p>Is it ok to just take w/o everyone knowing?</p>
<p>Sure are a lot of things hidden behind &#8220;free&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976964</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey SteelWolf:

Your comment suggests this is a primary focus. It isn&#039;t. It just happens to be an example of Google taking yet another liberty.

I&#039;m not saying it should be barred from foisting Street View. But I &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; saying no one should have been Opted In without their express consent. And I&#039;ll keep on saying it. And the same thing should apply to everything Google does.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey SteelWolf:</p>
<p>Your comment suggests this is a primary focus. It isn&#8217;t. It just happens to be an example of Google taking yet another liberty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it should be barred from foisting Street View. But I <i>am</i> saying no one should have been Opted In without their express consent. And I&#8217;ll keep on saying it. And the same thing should apply to everything Google does.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: SteelWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976961</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I share Qix&#039;s feelings on this one. While there are a lot of privacy concerns surrounding Google&#039;s activities, I don&#039;t think that Street View is the one to focus on - certainly not with the level of hysteria that seems to echo across the internet.

In my opinion, Google, and anybody else, is perfectly within their rights to drive down public roads and through public property, taking pictures of what is visible. The objection Jon raises in the linked story is that Google is using those images for commercial gain. While that is surely the case, it is indirect. Google is not taking those pictures and selling them back to you, they&#039;re offering them to you for free (in order to continue to build their brand). I don&#039;t see how that is different than any other company donating funds or equipment - it seems to be a positive partnership between public and private interests.

This doesn&#039;t excuse other behavior, like GooMobiles driving down clearly marked private drives, but I think the core idea is sound. Nor do I think Paul McCartney is justified in wanting his house blocked out. I am perfectly free to navigate to that address if I so choose, and I think it follows that I should be able to view what I could see from the street online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I share Qix&#8217;s feelings on this one. While there are a lot of privacy concerns surrounding Google&#8217;s activities, I don&#8217;t think that Street View is the one to focus on &#8211; certainly not with the level of hysteria that seems to echo across the internet.</p>
<p>In my opinion, Google, and anybody else, is perfectly within their rights to drive down public roads and through public property, taking pictures of what is visible. The objection Jon raises in the linked story is that Google is using those images for commercial gain. While that is surely the case, it is indirect. Google is not taking those pictures and selling them back to you, they&#8217;re offering them to you for free (in order to continue to build their brand). I don&#8217;t see how that is different than any other company donating funds or equipment &#8211; it seems to be a positive partnership between public and private interests.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t excuse other behavior, like GooMobiles driving down clearly marked private drives, but I think the core idea is sound. Nor do I think Paul McCartney is justified in wanting his house blocked out. I am perfectly free to navigate to that address if I so choose, and I think it follows that I should be able to view what I could see from the street online.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976954</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Qix:

In Canada [where I live] we don&#039;t have &quot;ten thousand government camera’s on most streets already,&quot; although I&#039;m quite sure various entities would dearly love to change that.

Anyhow, have a look here http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23545

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Qix:</p>
<p>In Canada [where I live] we don&#8217;t have &#8220;ten thousand government camera’s on most streets already,&#8221; although I&#8217;m quite sure various entities would dearly love to change that.</p>
<p>Anyhow, have a look here <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23545" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23545</a></p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Qix</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976953</link>
		<dc:creator>Qix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understood why people thought that the outside of their front yard was private.  It was never private to begin with.  People don&#039;t close their eyes while they drive down your street.
I especially don&#039;t understand this reaction in the UK.  I always hear about the ten thousand government camera&#039;s on most streets already.  How is this any different?  At least its not real time.
I must be missing something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood why people thought that the outside of their front yard was private.  It was never private to begin with.  People don&#8217;t close their eyes while they drive down your street.<br />
I especially don&#8217;t understand this reaction in the UK.  I always hear about the ten thousand government camera&#8217;s on most streets already.  How is this any different?  At least its not real time.<br />
I must be missing something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23813/comment-page-1#comment-976948</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is BS.
Streetview is really just a privacy invasion tech.
No one really needs to use it.
Google should kill this project as a cost saving measure and leave people alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is BS.<br />
Streetview is really just a privacy invasion tech.<br />
No one really needs to use it.<br />
Google should kill this project as a cost saving measure and leave people alone.</p>
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