Comments on: Traffic throttling wars: 800 file with CRTC

By: De Forum Dslr

De Forum Dslr — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:14:27 +0000

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By: Serge

Serge — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:01:06 +0000

Why are you surprised about what the CFTPA said? They said exactly the same thing on April 20 in their submission to the Internet traffic management proceeding.

By: bongoman

bongoman — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:38:39 +0000

One point of view that you can argue is that P2P has forced p2p users (legitimate or not) to adopt secretive obfuscation methods in order to get around packet shaping technologies. Specific examples of this you can see with end-to-end transport encryption implemented in Bittorrent and eMule clients. If you’re a dsl user where both you and your provider support it MLPP. A third example is the use of SSH for things like Usenet/Newsgroup Access (though not directly p2p related is still an example of this growing secretive environment), SSH Tunneling, and VPN access one such upstart founded by the same admins that brought us ThePirateBay. So from there you can draw the point that throttling from a freedom-of-speech perspective, hampers freedom of speech and expression since you’re forcing the users

By: crade

crade — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:41:30 +0000

Unfortunately, while I agree that p2p throttling is undue discrimination and obviously counter to section 36 of the Act,
after reading the union’s arguments, I must disagree on the freedom of speech issue. I do not believe freedom of speech covers distribution or publication in a particular format, which is more what is at stake here. Filtering or censoring content at the distribution level and publication level is certainly a charter issue, but I see nothing in their arguments that would show that slowing access to content is covered under the charter. Having poor cell phone coverage in your area I don’t think violates your freedom of speech rights, and neither do I think throttling certain types of internet traffic connections does.
I would like to hear arguments to change my mind though.
Good arguments out there for why this is a freedom of speech issue?

By: speechless

speechless — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:11:38 +0000

I’m amazed the Canadian Film and Television Production Association submitted what they did. I’m left almost speechless on that.

The Union is right, it is a form of expression and speech which is being tossed away, in addition to everything else.

I’m going to have to read all of this.

I can only hope the CRTC eyes have been opened by recent world events.