Robert Moore on 321 Reloaded
p2pnet.net News Feature:- p2pnet reader Robert Boyd’s article takes a thorough and very pointed look at the realities surrounding the demise of 321, and whether or not people are entitled to make copies of software (or anything else,come to that) they’ve legally bought and paid for.
Of course they are, and it’s sheer nonsense to think otherwise.
However, the members of the Big Four music label cartel and the major studios and software makers say otherwise. Their stance is: when you ‘buy’ something from them, in reality, you’re only renting it and they continue to have complete control over what you do with it.
Or as Boyd puts it, “You may NOT protect your investment by making a back-up copy in case it should ever become damaged or unusable. And unlike anything else you acquire by purchase, you may NOT, should you decide that you are no longer interested in viewing it, sell it or even GIVE IT AWAY to someone else!”
Bob Moore is the former president of 321 and although his company was put out of business by the entertainment industry, he hasn’t changed his views.
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Hi Robert:
Your article was well articulated and thought out. Thank you for posting this piece and I too hope one day this type of thinking will be more pervasive and top of mind in consumers and legislators alike.
With respect to activations, it is my understanding that all software activations for previously sold 321 products are now set to 75 and the third parties who control this software (as they always have) intend to continue to support and activate this software from countries where it is expressly permitted to make back up copies of one’s own digital property.
I am now out of the fight, but my heart stays close to the issues, as it will I’m sure for the rest of my life. 321 did everything in its power to raise awareness and public support. On those two points, we succeeded. I certainly wished for a different outcome however.
Thanks again for a thoughtful article and know that many have already come around as a result of intelligent discussions like this.
Kudos and Cheers!
Robert H Moore
Former President / 321 Studios
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article – 321 Studios reloaded – p2pnet, September 11, 2004
September 13th, 2004 at 11:47 pm
If the purveyors of all those shiny plastic discs were willing to step up to the plate and offer to replace CDs/DVDs that have been rendered unplayable for a REASONABLE fee or even (gasp) FREE, then their position might hold some water. After all, the cost of the discs themselves is marginal. You can rest assured that won’t happen as it defeats the purpose of a large part of their business model, “If it’s broke, buy another”. When DVDs were in their development stage there was talk of a cartridge based system sort of like mini-discs. Well, the content “owners” quickly saw the folly of that good idea and quietly buried it in a deep, unmarked grave. We know what they really want, PLAY=PAY, every time. Actually, that could possibly work IF they weren’t such greedy bastards…
September 14th, 2004 at 6:37 am
There is one thing i don’t understand.
When your purchase a dvd or cd the article says it’s not yours ,you’re just renting it.
Then why do people buy things like that?
Like w.c. fields used to say “there is a sucker born every minute”.
I must believe people in the united states are fucking stupid and like getting butt fucked by the big business cartels in the united states.
Our so called political leaders are up for re-election this year and people in congress will shamelessly take kickbacks and bribes from the entertainment industry so they shove their fucking weight around and dictate to a bunch of dumbasses buying their worthless products.
My Question to all of this is why does the general public put up with this?
The induce act is a very stupid and poorly thought out piece of legislation and people like orrrin hatch and patrick leahy and the bitch senator barbera boxer and other fucking worthless ilk that supports this proposed law should be targeted for ouster from public office.
People in congress are fucking stupid when it comes to tech issues.
People always talk about unintended consequences when the dmca was passed and they want to pass even more fucking stupid laws.
Robert moore is a fucking moron because he tried to buck the mpaa , the congress of the united states and the quite stuffy court system.
He should read this and there should be no doubt in his mind why the whole deck was stacked againest him from the beginning.
The guy was a fucking ripoff artist and he should ashamed of himself.He ripped off a million people who bought his products.
September 15th, 2004 at 6:41 pm
I must take issue with your “Robert Moore is a fucking moron…”statement.Maybe Mr.Moore knew the deck was stacked against him,but he still took a chance.Thank goodness there are people like him who are willing to buck the system.I wonder how many of the millions of people who have VCR’s know how close it came to not allowing them.VCR’s would ruin the entertainment industry we were told.I wonder what would have happened if “the industry” would have been user friendly to Mr.Moores’ product.Could dvd sales increase?Has a Mom or Pop ever not bought a dvd for junior because of replacement costs?Look at all the attention this whole ordeal has created.It’s become front page news.Orrin Hatch and his cohorts should show some backbone.Stand up for people who have a real need for a product like Mr.Moores’,but “the industry” puts a blank check in front of their nose and they follow,it’s disqusting.Hopefully now more and more people can see how greedy the entertainment industry has become.I wonder how much political support the industry would recieve if not for their blank check support of these politicians?Take a virgin politician and send him to Washington,how long would it take until he whores himself/herself?Are there no politicians who can stand up and disagree with Mr.Hatch?I’ll stop the political debate now,I think we know the answer.
To Mr.Moore and all the employees I say thank you.Thank you for taking a chance,I hope things work out for all of you.To those who need to have a copy of their dvd or a copy of Juniors’ dvd before he scratches it,draws on it etc.the programs are on the internet,they’re free.They might not be as user friendly as Mr.Moores’,but they’re there for us to use.That is they are there until the blank check provides a pathway to the internet or has that already happened?
January 14th, 2007 at 12:04 am
I purchased DVD X Platinum at Best Buy for about $150 about two and a half years ago, just after it was announced that 321 Studios would discontinue marketing the version that copies protected DVDs. I never installed this on my computer. Finally, today (01-13-07), I gave it a try, entering the License ID and Password from the sticker on the case in which the program came. When I tried to activate on line, the message that came on said I had used up my allotted number of installations. (I have not.)
Is there any way that I can still activate this program?
dickrisk@yahoo.com