The Pirate Bay sell-out
p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- Funny — you’d have thought The Pirate Bay announcement was of more importance than Farrah Fawcett’s death. The naysayers, the fanboys of Peter and Krew sellin’ out to the Big $.
What world do some of you people live on?
Try this on for size. Remember Napster? ‘Nuff said. Peter and the Bay are apparently going to still be ‘pirates’, buy only in a vague sort of way.
Peerialism is a decentralized p2p sharing system much like bittorrent. It allows for NAT clustering, and upon review, looks pretty frikkin good, I hate to say.
On a platform host like MPSBroadband and Peerialism AB seeders (that’s you) can easily distribute a massive amount of on-demand streaming HD, everything. The plan seems to be to get the members: that’s the first thing.
And there’s nothing like an already prebuilt opt-in membership base and all its little pieces of information and secrets.
Napster, Moebius, Kazaa, SeequPod, imeem, Last.FM, eMusic, ad nauseum.
Now they have a captive audience. But wait! The MAFIAA has only converted 20% of its catalog to digital?! So where will all the content come from now!?
You, my ‘played-like-a-fiddle’ friend, will seed user generated videos (UGV) at the ‘new-and-cool’ YouTube knockoff.
This is how it’ll begin. They’ll keep the fanboys and convert perhaps 1% of anyone who ever used The Pirate Bay for their source of file sharing. While the MAFIAA think, wtf is going on? And while the MAFIAA is working up the extortion numbers for this new ’service’, you’ll be uploading your ‘backflip off the house into the pool video’.
This new TPB venture is a grab from an outside player Global Gaming Factory X AB (publ) (GGF) to leverage an existing membership base to ‘free’ use at first, for mulitmedia sharing like YouTube.
After a while, they’ll address the MAFIAA with a lucrative deal to convert that over to subscription, probably paying by the Mb, like minutes on a cell phone, all the while feeding you ads that you’re actually paying to see. (Typically over 40% of content on a website is irrelevant or ad related X bandwidth usage = holy fuck!)
It could be a great platform for media distribution, and it could be used to level the copyright playing field by demonstrating how UGV can be monetized and is worth no less than the garbage in the MAFIAA’s catalog crypt.
It could easily rival YouTube and Microsoft, perhaps enough to influence the greedy extortionists running the music and movie industry.
But that ain’t gonna happen.
IMHO, The Pirate Bay crew sold the fuck out to get the MAFIAA off their back and to cut into the bill they owe. No amount of ‘crying because they don’t understand me’ will persuade any tertiary file sharing individual from believing otherwise. Grow a pair.
Use the new iteration of The Pirate Bay with caution …
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July 1st, 2009 at 9:02 am
Uh…That’s a little harsh. Facing jail time, millions in fines, would you hold fast in prison? Honestly? As soon as the rejection for appeal came out you knew they were going to sell out. How many people do you know that would give up their freedom to let people download shit for free?
July 1st, 2009 at 9:40 am
What about the supposed income of $850,000 a month from TPB ’s advertisers ?
They knew what they were doing.
They were motivated by PURE GREED plain and simple.
Their arrogance bit them in the ass.
Copyright theft is illegal plain and simple.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:48 am
copying infinite goods is not theft, its infringement…
could the MAFIAA shills please take a day off.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:36 am
” What about the supposed income of $850,000 a month from TPB ’s advertisers ? ”
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July 1st, 2009 at 11:41 am
@surfer,
I had a feeling this was gonna be your reaction, your stand on these issues has always been
pretty obvious. If you haven’t already figured it out, I tend to lean that direction myself!
So, goes without saying where I stand here, RIP TPB, sold out for????
Freedom?? money to pay the fine?? Who knows, and honestly who TF should care!
byo & stw
July 1st, 2009 at 11:57 am
i have not used tpb for a long time, unless i am looking for something very specific that isn’t anywhere else, do not have an account, anything like that, will not use the new service, but mostly cuz i use private sites. BUT…… i flat out REFUSE to aknowledge that the sale is entirely about grabbing the money and running, and i never will, there are still people in this world that believe in whats right, and will do things to reach that end, in my view this is a step to get closer to the actual goal, and i do believe it states that the purchase money is NOT going to the boys, its going to an organization that holds the same beliefs as the tpb crew. we need to stop condemning right now and wait. if it is true what you say surfer. then we as the community have been burned and we will strike back stronger, but if its not true, if there is a plan in effect, then what? i for one am so tired of losing faith in people, and i will not lose faith in them doing something for the “Greater Good” for the community until it is full up in my face with all the facts, that yes the money went to their bank accounts and they are living in the bahamas.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
These guys have stood up and fought for all of us for several years, they were cocky and did not take anything.
They now lost in court, which they shouldn’t have. I don’t blame them, they cannot win in a corrupt world.
Its like arguing with your wife, after awhile it becomes whats the point no matter how right I am I will still lose.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:34 pm
They stoodup and fought for themselves
July 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pm
“Their arrogance bit them in the ass.
Copyright theft is illegal plain and simple”
No Justice no peace! Plain and simple!
July 1st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
One can no corrupt a society ant its justice for very long without nasty consequences.
The entertainment parasites have it comming in a theater near them.
And as far as TBP is concerned and for what it was doing it does not matter since alternatives are legions. Welcome to the new generation of p2p Application: Open sources, decentralised, encrypted, and anonymous. It is now impossible to know what is shared and by who.
Can not sue anyone, can not shut down or buy anything.
Now they will continue to corrupt governements and institutions in order to impose the global licence.
This will screw up the real artists even further until we stop these business parasites physically.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
shit, that didn’t take long…
New Pirate Bay owner ‘insider trading’ charge
‘I had a feeling this was gonna be your reaction, your stand on these issues has always been
pretty obvious. ‘ – NO1UNO
am I that transparent?
stw
July 1st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
The gaming company is run by idiots if they think they can buy the Pirate Bay, stop all copyrighted file sharing, convert it to a pay service and still retain any of the userbase. They’re basically throwing their money away.
As for using the Pirate Bay; I don’t download a lot of torrents, mainly because anything I try to download usually has like 3 seeds and downloads at 2K/s. However, when I do download torrents, I usually search on Mininova. Lately, any torrent I download only has the Pirate Bay’s tracker in it. When the tracker goes down, half the torrents on the net are going to stop working.
Of course, just a few months ago I read an article about how having multiple trackers in a torrent was a waste of bandwidth and they encouraged everyone to delete all but one tracker. I think it was Mininova that took the extra step and started to delete all trackers except the Pirate Bay. Yeah, thanks for that…
July 1st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
bittorrent is but a small segment of file sharing, it is widely used, yes, but not the primary avenue.
i realize the MAFIAA’s plan is to inhibit file sharing, and going after publicly available targets is a no brainer. either the MAFIAA is lucky in the respect that they are annoying the file sharing community, or they actually have a plan. personally, i like the spaghetti theory, and that they are suing anything they can, anywhere they can in an effort to get something to stick, then they march out the idea as the standard.
i think the file sharing community is going to outlast the pockets of the MAFIAA, and whatever comes after its’ death, infinitum…
stw
July 1st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
GGF’s share price has apparently gone through the roof – they have no doubt already made back their investment, so its not throwing money away for them! Whether or not they can convert it to a pay service remains to be seen, but I have little doubt that is their intention.
July 1st, 2009 at 5:18 pm
even Mike Masnick agrees
July 1st, 2009 at 6:30 pm
i only started using tpb to stick it to the mpaa.ive spent tens of thousands on there dvds and hardware over the years but no more.now i download twice as much and seed just to say f**k you to those parasites.i will gladly fight our corrupt governments in the streets if thats what it comes to.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
The TBP guys really should not have encouraged their users not to send them money. They likely could have collected the roughly $3 million necessary in donations to pay off their unjust fine and NOT had to sell out their cause.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:14 pm
@ surfer, sorry if i offended…..but you do kinda come across as a set piece!
your stand on anonymity and fair use are pretty obvious, and you have earned
my respect for it!!
byo & stw
July 1st, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Butt pirates. No one is willing to fight the machine, it just tosses some money at you and you suck its metal prick.
I hope they sink to the bottom of the digital ocean. Butt pirates.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 am
Vote on the future of The Pirate Bay you would like to see! http://www.votetheday.com/pirate-bay/the-future-of-the-pirate-bay-413/
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
PeerGuardian already lists TPB
Thu Jul 2 2009 12:05:41.683 EDT -Blck- local:0 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx tcp4 ‘uTorrent (56894)’ (The Pirate Bay/sell outs:P2P)
July 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Economy is the greatest bitch of em all.
Freedom of culture can’t be done with this kind of human creature named ‘”economy”.
It’s one of mankinds greatest miseries we have to deal with, and most of the people fall into its capitalistic trap. Like TPB
But can we blame them for it?
November 5th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
no law is going to stop this . it is a globel service that some one will always accept . lets face it copy rite infringement in the digital age is a dead issue . how about putting every child in jail four owning an i pod . since obvously no child has the $1000.00 to fill one ,and our government goes after the week , not the big shots makeing the money . its a lesser of to evils to forget about the record sales . sorry , but the bottem line is we cant fight the rest of the world over this .