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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-988883</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no law is going to stop this . it is a globel service that some one will always accept . lets face it copy rite infringement in the digital age is a dead issue . how about putting every child in jail four owning an i pod . since obvously no child has the $1000.00 to fill one ,and our government goes after the week , not the big shots makeing the money . its a lesser of to evils to forget about the record sales . sorry , but  the bottem line is we cant fight the rest of the world over this .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no law is going to stop this . it is a globel service that some one will always accept . lets face it copy rite infringement in the digital age is a dead issue . how about putting every child in jail four owning an i pod . since obvously no child has the $1000.00 to fill one ,and our government goes after the week , not the big shots makeing the money . its a lesser of to evils to forget about the record sales . sorry , but  the bottem line is we cant fight the rest of the world over this .</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-978144</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economy is the greatest bitch of em all.
Freedom of culture can&#039;t be done with this kind of human creature named &#039;&quot;economy&quot;.
It&#039;s one of mankinds greatest miseries we have to deal with, and most of the people fall into its capitalistic trap. Like TPB
But can we blame them for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economy is the greatest bitch of em all.<br />
Freedom of culture can&#8217;t be done with this kind of human creature named &#8216;&#8221;economy&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s one of mankinds greatest miseries we have to deal with, and most of the people fall into its capitalistic trap. Like TPB<br />
But can we blame them for it?</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977777</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PeerGuardian already lists TPB

Thu Jul  2 2009 12:05:41.683 EDT -Blck- local:0 -&gt; xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx tcp4 &#039;uTorrent (56894)&#039; (The Pirate Bay/sell outs:P2P)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeerGuardian already lists TPB</p>
<p>Thu Jul  2 2009 12:05:41.683 EDT -Blck- local:0 -&gt; xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx tcp4 &#8216;uTorrent (56894)&#8217; (The Pirate Bay/sell outs:P2P)</p>
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		<title>By: VoteTheDay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977746</link>
		<dc:creator>VoteTheDay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote on the future of The Pirate Bay you would like to see! http://www.votetheday.com/pirate-bay/the-future-of-the-pirate-bay-413/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote on the future of The Pirate Bay you would like to see! <a href="http://www.votetheday.com/pirate-bay/the-future-of-the-pirate-bay-413/" rel="nofollow">http://www.votetheday.com/pirate-bay/the-future-of-the-pirate-bay-413/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nortonantigod</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977743</link>
		<dc:creator>nortonantigod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Butt pirates. No one is willing to fight the machine, it just tosses some money at you and you suck its metal prick.
I hope they sink to the bottom of the digital ocean. Butt pirates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Butt pirates. No one is willing to fight the machine, it just tosses some money at you and you suck its metal prick.<br />
I hope they sink to the bottom of the digital ocean. Butt pirates.</p>
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		<title>By: NO1UNO</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977739</link>
		<dc:creator>NO1UNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ surfer, sorry if i offended.....but you do kinda come across as a set piece!
your stand on anonymity and fair use are pretty obvious, and you have earned 
my respect for it!! :)

byo &amp; stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ surfer, sorry if i offended&#8230;..but you do kinda come across as a set piece!<br />
your stand on anonymity and fair use are pretty obvious, and you have earned<br />
my respect for it!! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>byo &amp; stw</p>
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		<title>By: RadialSkid</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977733</link>
		<dc:creator>RadialSkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TBP guys really should not have encouraged their users not to send them money. They likely could have collected the roughly $3 million necessary in donations to pay off their unjust fine and NOT had to sell out their cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TBP guys really should not have encouraged their users not to send them money. They likely could have collected the roughly $3 million necessary in donations to pay off their unjust fine and NOT had to sell out their cause.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977722</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i only started using tpb to stick it to the mpaa.ive spent tens of thousands on there dvds and hardware over the years but no more.now i download twice as much and seed just to say f**k you to those parasites.i will gladly fight our corrupt governments in the streets if thats what it comes to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i only started using tpb to stick it to the mpaa.ive spent tens of thousands on there dvds and hardware over the years but no more.now i download twice as much and seed just to say f**k you to those parasites.i will gladly fight our corrupt governments in the streets if thats what it comes to.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977709</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090701/1050405422.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;even Mike Masnick agrees&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090701/1050405422.shtml" rel="nofollow">even Mike Masnick agrees</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GGF&#039;s share price has apparently gone through the roof - they have no doubt already made back their investment, so its not throwing money away for them!  Whether or not they can convert it to a pay service remains to be seen, but I have little doubt that is their intention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GGF&#8217;s share price has apparently gone through the roof &#8211; they have no doubt already made back their investment, so its not throwing money away for them!  Whether or not they can convert it to a pay service remains to be seen, but I have little doubt that is their intention.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977703</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bittorrent is but a small segment of file sharing, it is widely used, yes, but not the primary avenue.

i realize the MAFIAA&#039;s plan is to inhibit file sharing, and going after publicly available targets is a no brainer. either the MAFIAA is lucky in the respect that they are annoying the file sharing community, or they actually have a plan. personally, i like the spaghetti theory, and that they are suing anything they can, anywhere they can in an effort to get &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; to stick, then they march out the idea as the standard.

i think the file sharing community is going to outlast the pockets of the MAFIAA, and whatever comes after its&#039; death, infinitum...

stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bittorrent is but a small segment of file sharing, it is widely used, yes, but not the primary avenue.</p>
<p>i realize the MAFIAA&#8217;s plan is to inhibit file sharing, and going after publicly available targets is a no brainer. either the MAFIAA is lucky in the respect that they are annoying the file sharing community, or they actually have a plan. personally, i like the spaghetti theory, and that they are suing anything they can, anywhere they can in an effort to get <i>something</i> to stick, then they march out the idea as the standard.</p>
<p>i think the file sharing community is going to outlast the pockets of the MAFIAA, and whatever comes after its&#8217; death, infinitum&#8230;</p>
<p>stw</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977698</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gaming company is run by idiots if they think they can buy the Pirate Bay, stop all copyrighted file sharing, convert it to a pay service and still retain any of the userbase. They&#039;re basically throwing their money away.

As for using the Pirate Bay; I don&#039;t download a lot of torrents, mainly because anything I try to download usually has like 3 seeds and downloads at 2K/s. However, when I do download torrents, I usually search on Mininova. Lately, any torrent I download only has the Pirate Bay&#039;s tracker in it. When the tracker goes down, half the torrents on the net are going to stop working.

Of course, just a few months ago I read an article about how having multiple trackers in a torrent was a waste of bandwidth and they encouraged everyone to delete all but one tracker. I think it was Mininova that took the extra step and started to delete all trackers except the Pirate Bay. Yeah, thanks for that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gaming company is run by idiots if they think they can buy the Pirate Bay, stop all copyrighted file sharing, convert it to a pay service and still retain any of the userbase. They&#8217;re basically throwing their money away.</p>
<p>As for using the Pirate Bay; I don&#8217;t download a lot of torrents, mainly because anything I try to download usually has like 3 seeds and downloads at 2K/s. However, when I do download torrents, I usually search on Mininova. Lately, any torrent I download only has the Pirate Bay&#8217;s tracker in it. When the tracker goes down, half the torrents on the net are going to stop working.</p>
<p>Of course, just a few months ago I read an article about how having multiple trackers in a torrent was a waste of bandwidth and they encouraged everyone to delete all but one tracker. I think it was Mininova that took the extra step and started to delete all trackers except the Pirate Bay. Yeah, thanks for that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977691</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shit, that didn&#039;t take long...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24307&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Pirate Bay owner ‘insider trading’ charge&lt;/a&gt;

&#039;I had a feeling this was gonna be your reaction, your stand on these issues has always been
pretty obvious. &#039; - NO1UNO

am I that transparent?

8)

stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shit, that didn&#8217;t take long&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24307" rel="nofollow">New Pirate Bay owner ‘insider trading’ charge</a></p>
<p>&#8216;I had a feeling this was gonna be your reaction, your stand on these issues has always been<br />
pretty obvious. &#8216; &#8211; NO1UNO</p>
<p>am I that transparent?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>stw</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977682</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can no corrupt a society ant its justice for very long without nasty consequences.

The entertainment parasites  have it comming in a theater near them. 

And as far as TBP is concerned and for what it was doing it does not matter since alternatives are legions. Welcome to the new generation of p2p Application: Open sources, decentralised,  encrypted, and anonymous. It is now impossible to know what is shared and by who.

Can not sue anyone, can not shut down or buy anything.

Now they will continue to corrupt governements and institutions in order to impose the global licence. 
This will screw up the real artists even further until we stop these business parasites physically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can no corrupt a society ant its justice for very long without nasty consequences.</p>
<p>The entertainment parasites  have it comming in a theater near them. </p>
<p>And as far as TBP is concerned and for what it was doing it does not matter since alternatives are legions. Welcome to the new generation of p2p Application: Open sources, decentralised,  encrypted, and anonymous. It is now impossible to know what is shared and by who.</p>
<p>Can not sue anyone, can not shut down or buy anything.</p>
<p>Now they will continue to corrupt governements and institutions in order to impose the global licence.<br />
This will screw up the real artists even further until we stop these business parasites physically.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977679</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their arrogance bit them in the ass.
Copyright theft is illegal plain and simple&quot;

No Justice no peace! Plain and simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their arrogance bit them in the ass.<br />
Copyright theft is illegal plain and simple&#8221;</p>
<p>No Justice no peace! Plain and simple!</p>
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		<title>By: oh yea?</title>
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		<dc:creator>oh yea?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They stoodup and fought for themselves</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977675</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys have stood up and fought for all of us for several years, they were cocky and did not take anything.
They now lost in court, which they shouldn&#039;t have. I don&#039;t blame them, they cannot win in a corrupt world.

Its like arguing with your wife, after awhile it becomes whats the point no matter how right I am I will still lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys have stood up and fought for all of us for several years, they were cocky and did not take anything.<br />
They now lost in court, which they shouldn&#8217;t have. I don&#8217;t blame them, they cannot win in a corrupt world.</p>
<p>Its like arguing with your wife, after awhile it becomes whats the point no matter how right I am I will still lose.</p>
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		<title>By: devious204</title>
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		<dc:creator>devious204</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have not used tpb for a long time, unless i am looking for something very specific that isn&#039;t anywhere else, do not have an account, anything like that, will not use the new service, but mostly cuz i use private sites.  BUT...... i flat out REFUSE to aknowledge that the sale is entirely about grabbing the money and running, and i never will, there are still people in this world that believe in whats right, and will do things to reach that end, in my view this is a step  to get closer to the actual goal, and i do believe it states that the purchase money is NOT going to the boys, its going to an organization that holds the same beliefs as the tpb crew.  we need to stop condemning right now and wait.  if it is true what you say surfer. then we as the community have been burned and we will strike back stronger, but if its not true, if there is a plan in effect, then what? i for one am so tired of losing faith in people, and i will not lose faith in them doing something for the &quot;Greater Good&quot; for the community until it is full up in my face with all the facts, that yes the money went to their bank accounts and they are living in the bahamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have not used tpb for a long time, unless i am looking for something very specific that isn&#8217;t anywhere else, do not have an account, anything like that, will not use the new service, but mostly cuz i use private sites.  BUT&#8230;&#8230; i flat out REFUSE to aknowledge that the sale is entirely about grabbing the money and running, and i never will, there are still people in this world that believe in whats right, and will do things to reach that end, in my view this is a step  to get closer to the actual goal, and i do believe it states that the purchase money is NOT going to the boys, its going to an organization that holds the same beliefs as the tpb crew.  we need to stop condemning right now and wait.  if it is true what you say surfer. then we as the community have been burned and we will strike back stronger, but if its not true, if there is a plan in effect, then what? i for one am so tired of losing faith in people, and i will not lose faith in them doing something for the &#8220;Greater Good&#8221; for the community until it is full up in my face with all the facts, that yes the money went to their bank accounts and they are living in the bahamas.</p>
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		<title>By: NO1UNO</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24211/comment-page-1#comment-977672</link>
		<dc:creator>NO1UNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@surfer,
I had a feeling this was gonna be your reaction, your stand on these issues has always been
pretty obvious. If you haven&#039;t already figured it out, I tend to lean that direction myself!

So, goes without saying where I stand here, RIP TPB, sold out for????
Freedom?? money to pay the fine?? Who knows, and honestly who TF should care!

byo &amp; stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@surfer,<br />
I had a feeling this was gonna be your reaction, your stand on these issues has always been<br />
pretty obvious. If you haven&#8217;t already figured it out, I tend to lean that direction myself!</p>
<p>So, goes without saying where I stand here, RIP TPB, sold out for????<br />
Freedom?? money to pay the fine?? Who knows, and honestly who TF should care!</p>
<p>byo &amp; stw</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; What about the supposed income of $850,000 a month from TPB ’s advertisers ? &quot;

[ Citation Needed ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; What about the supposed income of $850,000 a month from TPB ’s advertisers ? &#8221;</p>
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