Comments on: Apple, Pepsi and the RIAA SuperBowl scandal http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jon http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978105 Jon Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:45:18 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978105 Hi voxleo: Good to see you posting again. :) Cheers! Hi voxleo:

Good to see you posting again. :)

Cheers!

]]> By: voxleo http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978086 voxleo Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:03:17 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978086 Toward the definitions of "yellow journalism" : Seems to me that neither of these definitions is applicable here anyway. Boosting sales does not apply to a freely available piece. and as Jon says, he never claimed to be unbiased. It very clearly voices an opinion on the matter and even states the fact in so many words. Perhaps someone has bristled at an editorial that to them feels like an exposee. Methinks you hit a nerve, Jon. Toward the definitions of “yellow journalism” :

Seems to me that neither of these definitions is applicable here anyway. Boosting sales does not apply to a freely available piece. and as Jon says, he never claimed to be unbiased. It very clearly voices an opinion on the matter and even states the fact in so many words. Perhaps someone has bristled at an editorial that to them feels like an exposee.

Methinks you hit a nerve, Jon.

]]> By: Quartz http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978054 Quartz Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:06:59 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978054 An interesting article Jon and while I sometimes think these articles get a bit "brain hammering" by the repetition of some lines of dialogue thats your style, and at least shows you have read the fine detaill of what your stating. I can now leave here with more knowledge and proof that shows the Cartel/copyright extremists for what they truly are : inept abusers of the consumers trust and children in particular. Keep up the good fight : )) An interesting article Jon and while I sometimes think these articles get a bit “brain hammering” by the repetition of some lines of dialogue thats your style, and at least shows you have read the fine detaill of what your stating.

I can now leave here with more knowledge and proof that shows the Cartel/copyright extremists for what they truly are : inept abusers of the consumers trust and children in particular.

Keep up the good fight : ))

]]> By: NO1UNO http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978036 NO1UNO Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:42:33 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978036 (*satire alert*) Sorry, I refuse to consider Jon to be a yellow journalist till someone can show photographic evidence of the big yellow streak running up the middle of his back, "nuff said............. byo & stw :) (*satire alert*)
Sorry, I refuse to consider Jon to be a yellow journalist till someone can show photographic evidence of the big yellow streak running up the middle of his back, “nuff said………….

byo & stw :)

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978029 Devil's Advocate Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:16:40 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978029 Personally, I would rather "biased" journalism, with no facts withheld, than what passes today for "objective" journalism, where any facts are only displayed selectively, in order to polarize opinion. "Yellow" journalism is all we've been getting from the MSM for quite some time now. Personally, I would rather “biased” journalism, with no facts withheld, than what passes today for “objective” journalism, where any facts are only displayed selectively, in order to polarize opinion.

“Yellow” journalism is all we’ve been getting from the MSM for quite some time now.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978028 Reader's Write Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:11:30 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978028 It would have been funny if, as a result of these ads, these downloaders had been sued by ASCAP OR SOCAN -- since they were already identified and were on record admitting their guilt. That is one of the conditions of the RIAA's "settlement": a certified admission of guilt - whether true or not - which opens the door to possible actions by other parties. It would have been funny if, as a result of these ads, these downloaders had been sued by ASCAP OR SOCAN — since they were already identified and were on record admitting their guilt.

That is one of the conditions of the RIAA’s “settlement”: a certified admission of guilt – whether true or not – which opens the door to possible actions by other parties.

]]> By: Jon http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978025 Jon Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:58:52 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978025 ^^ "Yellow journalism, in short, is biased opinion masquerading as objective fact." Masquerading as objective fact? Prime candidates would be (normal and typical) Apple bullshit, and the USA TODAY and New York Times 'Pepsi ads wink at music downloading' and 'Satire and Silliness' stories. And the same can be said of "sensationalism, distorted stories, and misleading images". The "legitimate news" -- that Apple and Pepsi were able to exploit 16 kids in a black corporate music industry advertising campaign -- was never revealed by the 'objective' lamescream media. And if ever there were examples of "unprofessional practices by news media organizations or journalist" ... But then, I'm biased. Cheers! ^^ “Yellow journalism, in short, is biased opinion masquerading as objective fact.”

Masquerading as objective fact? Prime candidates would be (normal and typical) Apple bullshit, and the USA TODAY and New York Times ‘Pepsi ads wink at music downloading’ and ‘Satire and Silliness’ stories. And the same can be said of “sensationalism, distorted stories, and misleading images”.

The “legitimate news” — that Apple and Pepsi were able to exploit 16 kids in a black corporate music industry advertising campaign — was never revealed by the ‘objective’ lamescream media.

And if ever there were examples of “unprofessional practices by news media organizations or journalist” …

But then, I’m biased.

Cheers!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978024 Reader's Write Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:47:50 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978024 Yellow journalism, in short, is biased opinion masquerading as objective fact. Moreover, the practice of yellow journalism involved sensationalism, distorted stories, and misleading images for the sole purpose of boosting newspaper sales and exciting public opinion - http://library.thinkquest.org/C0111500/spanamer/yellow.htm Yellow journalism is a type of journalism that downplays legitimate news in favor of eye-catching headlines that sell more newspapers. It may feature exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, sensationalism, or unprofessional practices by news media organizations or journalists. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism Yellow journalism, in short, is biased opinion masquerading as objective fact. Moreover, the practice of yellow journalism involved sensationalism, distorted stories, and misleading images for the sole purpose of boosting newspaper sales and exciting public opinion – http://library.thinkquest.org/C0111500/spanamer/yellow.htm

Yellow journalism is a type of journalism that downplays legitimate news in favor of eye-catching headlines that sell more newspapers. It may feature exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, sensationalism, or unprofessional practices by news media organizations or journalists. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

]]> By: NO1UNO http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978023 NO1UNO Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:32:25 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978023 "If this example is a bad example of advertisng then P2PNet is an even worst example of online yellow journalism." This is an even worse example of RIAAS BS, they and their *ASS kissing followers dont want the real story out here. And then they are dumb enough to make one lame ass little comment and then run away!! BRILLIANT!! :) stw (copyleft, surfer) “If this example is a bad example of advertisng then P2PNet is an even worst example of online yellow journalism.”
This is an even worse example of RIAAS BS, they and their *ASS kissing followers dont want the real story out here.
And then they are dumb enough to make one lame ass little comment and then run away!!
BRILLIANT!! :)

stw (copyleft, surfer)

]]> By: Jon http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978022 Jon Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:12:30 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978022 @ Geritol Hill: I've added this to Kids & Kartels. Cheers! And thanks ... @ Geritol Hill:

I’ve added this to Kids & Kartels.

Cheers! And thanks …

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978021 Devil's Advocate Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:48:04 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978021 "...then P2PNet is an even worst example of online yellow journalism." Well, the least you could do, Mr. Watcher, is substantiate such a bold blanket statement like that. Don't just throw out the insult and run away - that just makes you look like a complete idiot! Maybe what you'd have to say would be a complete REVELATION, causing many of us to examine ourselves and come to the realization of our own foolishness in supporting this site! Geez, if you have something enlightening to tell us in that regard, you could be doing us a real service. I mean, c'mon! Grow a set of balls and explain yourself a little bit. ...Or just shut the fuck up. “…then P2PNet is an even worst example of online yellow journalism.”

Well, the least you could do, Mr. Watcher, is substantiate such a bold blanket statement like that.
Don’t just throw out the insult and run away – that just makes you look like a complete idiot!

Maybe what you’d have to say would be a complete REVELATION, causing many of us to examine ourselves and come to the realization of our own foolishness in supporting this site! Geez, if you have something enlightening to tell us in that regard, you could be doing us a real service.

I mean, c’mon! Grow a set of balls and explain yourself a little bit.
…Or just shut the fuck up.

]]> By: Geritol Hill http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978019 Geritol Hill Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:19:44 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978019 "What’s the problem? But, “What’s the problem?” - asks a nameless, faceless RIAA spokesperson. “We’re only involved as good corporate citizens. We gave Pepsi and Apple and BBDO the kids’ names to help them. The kids, that is. This is our way of working with wholesome American institutions to save the Children of America from having us prosecute them for stealing music. What can be wrong with that?”" Wholesome corporate American institutions exploiting children. "We sold off the kid's name's for profit, they said" Then we get them to proclaim guilt to some crime. What's wrong with that? This is just classic. Jon, this should also be added to kids and kartels it's beyond "wholesome" advertising. It's exploiting the vulnerable. “What’s the problem?
But, “What’s the problem?” – asks a nameless, faceless RIAA spokesperson. “We’re only involved as good corporate citizens. We gave Pepsi and Apple and BBDO the kids’ names to help them. The kids, that is. This is our way of working with wholesome American institutions to save the Children of America from having us prosecute them for stealing music. What can be wrong with that?””

Wholesome corporate American institutions exploiting children.
“We sold off the kid’s name’s for profit, they said”
Then we get them to proclaim guilt to some crime.
What’s wrong with that?

This is just classic.

Jon, this should also be added to kids and kartels it’s beyond “wholesome” advertising.

It’s exploiting the vulnerable.

]]> By: surfer http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978017 surfer Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:49:06 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978017 Jon isn't oriental Jon isn’t oriental

]]> By: Watcher http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24416/comment-page-1#comment-978016 Watcher Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:32:52 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24416#comment-978016 If this example is a bad example of advertisng then P2PNet is an even worst example of online yellow journalism. If this example is a bad example of advertisng then P2PNet is an even worst example of online yellow journalism.

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