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		<title>By: RadialSkid</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-994967</link>
		<dc:creator>RadialSkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;next time someone points a gun at you your mind will change about the police&quot;

If someone pointed a gun at me, they&#039;d better be faster than me. I could draw my own concealed weapon and have them reeling from one round of .45 ACP in a fraction of a second, literally. Naturally, I&#039;d also call the police....to clean up.

&quot;Risking their lives every day&quot; is no excuse to turn a blind eye to corruption and abuse of rights. Police officers that can&#039;t operate to the high standards they&#039;re supposed to be trained to deserve to have their badges ripped off and their asses kicked to the curb.

And he didn&#039;t &quot;deserve it.&quot; Nobody deserves to be tasered five times in 31 seconds. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;next time someone points a gun at you your mind will change about the police&#8221;</p>
<p>If someone pointed a gun at me, they&#8217;d better be faster than me. I could draw my own concealed weapon and have them reeling from one round of .45 ACP in a fraction of a second, literally. Naturally, I&#8217;d also call the police&#8230;.to clean up.</p>
<p>&#8220;Risking their lives every day&#8221; is no excuse to turn a blind eye to corruption and abuse of rights. Police officers that can&#8217;t operate to the high standards they&#8217;re supposed to be trained to deserve to have their badges ripped off and their asses kicked to the curb.</p>
<p>And he didn&#8217;t &#8220;deserve it.&#8221; Nobody deserves to be tasered five times in 31 seconds. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Grrrr</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-983209</link>
		<dc:creator>Grrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly you try risking your life for others! You people dont understand that these men &amp; women and risking their lives EVERYDAY for you people they might never get to see their family again &amp; all you can do it whinge that theyre not doing a good enough job id like to see you try do it. Honestly its either they arent doing enough or they are doing too much to subdue people if he was doing the wrong this then he deserved it YOU DO THE CRIME YOU DO THE TIME. They arent allowed to use a gun unless in extreme circumstances if you take the tasers off them they are just sitting ducks, next time someone points a gun at you your mind will change about the police</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly you try risking your life for others! You people dont understand that these men &amp; women and risking their lives EVERYDAY for you people they might never get to see their family again &amp; all you can do it whinge that theyre not doing a good enough job id like to see you try do it. Honestly its either they arent doing enough or they are doing too much to subdue people if he was doing the wrong this then he deserved it YOU DO THE CRIME YOU DO THE TIME. They arent allowed to use a gun unless in extreme circumstances if you take the tasers off them they are just sitting ducks, next time someone points a gun at you your mind will change about the police</p>
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		<title>By: cyberscan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978732</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberscan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had a copy of this video, I&#039;d post it and SCREW CANADIAN KANGAROO COURT rulings.  Yes, the U.S.S.A. also has kangaroo courts, and I don&#039;t respect them either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had a copy of this video, I&#8217;d post it and SCREW CANADIAN KANGAROO COURT rulings.  Yes, the U.S.S.A. also has kangaroo courts, and I don&#8217;t respect them either.</p>
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		<title>By: drÃ¦N</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978546</link>
		<dc:creator>drÃ¦N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not even a [cam]?</description>
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		<title>By: IratePirate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978477</link>
		<dc:creator>IratePirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of those are all that much safer than a taser. They are all less-lethal, not non-lethal. It all depends whether or not they are used correctly. Again, proper training is the key. Refresher courses should be a requirement too. Law enforcement needs to be constantly reminded of the difference between the two. Does anyone know the ratio of people tasered every year compared to deaths attributed to it? I&#039;d imagine it would show tasers as being MOSTLY safe as a deterrent and that deaths only occur when the taser has been misused/abused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of those are all that much safer than a taser. They are all less-lethal, not non-lethal. It all depends whether or not they are used correctly. Again, proper training is the key. Refresher courses should be a requirement too. Law enforcement needs to be constantly reminded of the difference between the two. Does anyone know the ratio of people tasered every year compared to deaths attributed to it? I&#8217;d imagine it would show tasers as being MOSTLY safe as a deterrent and that deaths only occur when the taser has been misused/abused.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978307</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit.  Tasers serve no purpose other than to electrocute people, and whether or not they prove lethal is left entirely to chance.  There are still plenty of safer methods of restraining suspects, like tear gas, pepper spray, and rubber bullets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit.  Tasers serve no purpose other than to electrocute people, and whether or not they prove lethal is left entirely to chance.  There are still plenty of safer methods of restraining suspects, like tear gas, pepper spray, and rubber bullets.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978304</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although i do not agree with the video being banned, i do not agree with banning tasers.
officers need to use more restraint with their use.  
they are still a better option than billy clubs or guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although i do not agree with the video being banned, i do not agree with banning tasers.<br />
officers need to use more restraint with their use.<br />
they are still a better option than billy clubs or guns.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978301</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RW
The riot could have been avoided by police doing their jobs properly.  They were trained, they should be practising takedowns.  Tokyo riot police are trained in Aikido, so should our police, but not 1 month, it should be for the entire duration they are on the farce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RW<br />
The riot could have been avoided by police doing their jobs properly.  They were trained, they should be practising takedowns.  Tokyo riot police are trained in Aikido, so should our police, but not 1 month, it should be for the entire duration they are on the farce.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978298</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes perfect sense. The video of the LA police beating Rodney King was responsible for causing the worst riot in US history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes perfect sense. The video of the LA police beating Rodney King was responsible for causing the worst riot in US history.</p>
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		<title>By: voxleo</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978297</link>
		<dc:creator>voxleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had thought that the trend towards hiring thugs for police was limited to the US.  There is very little &quot;protecting and serving&quot; going on when the average person feels threatened by the police.  I suspect this is largely due to the type of people they are hiring who are seeming more and more like mercenery enforcers who shoot first and ask questions later (if at all).  

Was this man armed?  What about pepper spray to subdue him?  How could ONE tasering not be enough unless he was on PCP? WTF? What kind of &quot;context&quot; could possibly justify this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had thought that the trend towards hiring thugs for police was limited to the US.  There is very little &#8220;protecting and serving&#8221; going on when the average person feels threatened by the police.  I suspect this is largely due to the type of people they are hiring who are seeming more and more like mercenery enforcers who shoot first and ask questions later (if at all).  </p>
<p>Was this man armed?  What about pepper spray to subdue him?  How could ONE tasering not be enough unless he was on PCP? WTF? What kind of &#8220;context&#8221; could possibly justify this?</p>
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		<title>By: RadialSkid</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978226</link>
		<dc:creator>RadialSkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;being tasered five times within 31 seconds&quot;

Inexcusable. I don&#039;t care what the guy did, there&#039;s no call for brutally electrocuting him like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;being tasered five times within 31 seconds&#8221;</p>
<p>Inexcusable. I don&#8217;t care what the guy did, there&#8217;s no call for brutally electrocuting him like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe if enough people are outraged the Supreme Court of Canada will toss that provincial ruling out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if enough people are outraged the Supreme Court of Canada will toss that provincial ruling out.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978217</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utube put up an Iranian girl shot in the chest and who died before our eyes.

The media carried it also.

But lets censor what happens in our own back yard.

No freedom of expression in Canada except for what they allow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utube put up an Iranian girl shot in the chest and who died before our eyes.</p>
<p>The media carried it also.</p>
<p>But lets censor what happens in our own back yard.</p>
<p>No freedom of expression in Canada except for what they allow.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978215</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The taser has helped highlight a point about this &quot;adrenaline rush&quot; you&#039;re talking about.

Good training addresses this.
Unfortunately, they seem to have been trained only in the execution of the weapon itself, and not so much about the various types of people they&#039;re going to be dealing with, or how different situations should be assessed and diffused.

The Robert Dziekanski case was a perfect illustration of bad training (and possibly something else).
It was quite obvious to anyone watching the footage that this man not only had problems communicating (he didn&#039;t speak very much English), but was already in a panic.  FIVE officers should have been able to diffuse this situation without too much trouble.

But from the time the officers approached this man, they didn&#039;t exhibit any comforting behaviour toward him, abruptly surrounding him and pulling out the tasers... causing his panic level to go through the roof!  The tasers were then deployed immediately and REPEATEDLY (even while he was already on the ground!).  We don&#039;t need this type of enforcement.

These cops should have received better PEOPLE training before being handed the tasers.
How are they supposed to deal with the mentally ill, or even a simple domestic dispute, if the only thought that comes to mind is to pull out a taser whenever there&#039;s any &quot;tension&quot; in the air??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The taser has helped highlight a point about this &#8220;adrenaline rush&#8221; you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>Good training addresses this.<br />
Unfortunately, they seem to have been trained only in the execution of the weapon itself, and not so much about the various types of people they&#8217;re going to be dealing with, or how different situations should be assessed and diffused.</p>
<p>The Robert Dziekanski case was a perfect illustration of bad training (and possibly something else).<br />
It was quite obvious to anyone watching the footage that this man not only had problems communicating (he didn&#8217;t speak very much English), but was already in a panic.  FIVE officers should have been able to diffuse this situation without too much trouble.</p>
<p>But from the time the officers approached this man, they didn&#8217;t exhibit any comforting behaviour toward him, abruptly surrounding him and pulling out the tasers&#8230; causing his panic level to go through the roof!  The tasers were then deployed immediately and REPEATEDLY (even while he was already on the ground!).  We don&#8217;t need this type of enforcement.</p>
<p>These cops should have received better PEOPLE training before being handed the tasers.<br />
How are they supposed to deal with the mentally ill, or even a simple domestic dispute, if the only thought that comes to mind is to pull out a taser whenever there&#8217;s any &#8220;tension&#8221; in the air??</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978210</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>put up a copy watch it get uploaded 10-15 times alone by myself.  Police misconduct needs to be understood in the real context in which it happened , not after they explain themselves.  Their credibility cant get any worse in my mind.  robert dzenski deserved better and thanks to his video being posted we all know it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>put up a copy watch it get uploaded 10-15 times alone by myself.  Police misconduct needs to be understood in the real context in which it happened , not after they explain themselves.  Their credibility cant get any worse in my mind.  robert dzenski deserved better and thanks to his video being posted we all know it!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978209</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any cop that uses a taser in a situation where it wasn&#039;t required, should have to undergo the same amount of tasering themselves. They&#039;d think twice about using them if they knew there was a real possibility that they&#039;d have the same done to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any cop that uses a taser in a situation where it wasn&#8217;t required, should have to undergo the same amount of tasering themselves. They&#8217;d think twice about using them if they knew there was a real possibility that they&#8217;d have the same done to them.</p>
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		<title>By: IratePirate</title>
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		<dc:creator>IratePirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is why the tasers must be forbiden or very strong laws should be passed to regulate their use and alow their use only in dangerous situations.&quot;

I doubt the intent was ever to kill the guy. A lot of the problems found within law enforcement can usually be traced to a lack of proper training. When the adrenaline is flowing it&#039;s probably easy to forget that these weapons are called &quot;less-lethal&quot; and not &quot;non-lethal&quot;. I&#039;m not justifying what happened, just stating a highly probable fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is why the tasers must be forbiden or very strong laws should be passed to regulate their use and alow their use only in dangerous situations.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt the intent was ever to kill the guy. A lot of the problems found within law enforcement can usually be traced to a lack of proper training. When the adrenaline is flowing it&#8217;s probably easy to forget that these weapons are called &#8220;less-lethal&#8221; and not &#8220;non-lethal&#8221;. I&#8217;m not justifying what happened, just stating a highly probable fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24582/comment-page-1#comment-978203</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cop are abusing the tasers. This is the problem. 

Taser are supposed to be used to defuse dangerous situation only. Instead they are used by some cops for anything such as coercion and/or torture. 

This is why the tasers must be forbiden or very strong laws should be passed to regulate their use and alow their use only in dangerous situations. 

Unless one ot these is done cops will continue to kill with tasers, resentment against the police will continue to grow and nothing good will come out of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cop are abusing the tasers. This is the problem. </p>
<p>Taser are supposed to be used to defuse dangerous situation only. Instead they are used by some cops for anything such as coercion and/or torture. </p>
<p>This is why the tasers must be forbiden or very strong laws should be passed to regulate their use and alow their use only in dangerous situations. </p>
<p>Unless one ot these is done cops will continue to kill with tasers, resentment against the police will continue to grow and nothing good will come out of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about phasing out the tasers?

Unless they made tasers illegal I will for now on  wear special clothing and carry a gun at anytime.

I don&#039;t think this will make the cops safer but He!  you have to do what you have to do to protect oneself!

Sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about phasing out the tasers?</p>
<p>Unless they made tasers illegal I will for now on  wear special clothing and carry a gun at anytime.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this will make the cops safer but He!  you have to do what you have to do to protect oneself!</p>
<p>Sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think tasers should be taken away - police should just use guns all the time.</description>
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