Comments on: Don’t worry, Giganews tells AT&T Usenet users http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689 p2pnet.net - reader powered Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:59:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jon http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978659 Jon Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:13:31 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978659 "I've seen more than one person complain about Giganews cutting them off over the posting of binaries ..." <i>This thread is starting to look more and more like an upaid ad for another service. So I'm stopping it at this point. Cheers! Jon.) </i> “I’ve seen more than one person complain about Giganews cutting them off over the posting of binaries …”

This thread is starting to look more and more like an upaid ad for another service. So I’m stopping it at this point. Cheers! Jon.)

]]> By: liz@giganews.com http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978651 liz@giganews.com Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:14:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978651 Orbit- keep posted :) Matching is not the same as innovation- and innovation sometimes takes you beyond of what is expected. Orbit- keep posted :) Matching is not the same as innovation- and innovation sometimes takes you beyond of what is expected.

]]> By: Orbit http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978642 Orbit Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:20:41 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978642 If Astraweb's yearly plan throws you off you can also signup for monthly service for $11US a month. @Surfer Having been a former Giganews costumer I've seen no difference between the two companies other then the $20 extra money in my pocket every month @Iiz It would have to be a very big announcement for me to switch back to Giganews. Given Astraweb has been matching every service improvements I doubt it will make me switch back. If Astraweb’s yearly plan throws you off you can also signup for monthly service for $11US a month.

@Surfer
Having been a former Giganews costumer I’ve seen no difference between the two companies other then the $20 extra money in my pocket every month

@Iiz

It would have to be a very big announcement for me to switch back to Giganews. Given Astraweb has been matching every service improvements I doubt it will make me switch back.

]]> By: liz@giganews.com http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978638 liz@giganews.com Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:58:46 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978638 no worries NO1UNO. somewhere on this site there is a pix of me~ ask jon, he can pull it from the archives :) Reader's Write & Orbit- small announcement coming later today or early next week, big announcement in about 2 weeks, announcement end of August, and then huge announcement in early fall- value, consistency and innovation is where we're at. there is a reason Giganews RW- I have never heard of Giganews doing the above- ever. examples? seems like a baseless accusation of a "unproven (emailed) accusations" :) seriously, if you have examples let me know. no worries NO1UNO. somewhere on this site there is a pix of me~ ask jon, he can pull it from the archives :)

Reader’s Write & Orbit-
small announcement coming later today or early next week, big announcement in about 2 weeks, announcement end of August, and then huge announcement in early fall- value, consistency and innovation is where we’re at. there is a reason Giganews

RW-
I have never heard of Giganews doing the above- ever. examples? seems like a baseless accusation of a “unproven (emailed) accusations” :)
seriously, if you have examples let me know.

]]> By: NO1UNO http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978635 NO1UNO Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:35:00 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978635 WOW, i was just picking a bit and didnt even check back till now! ;) @ Liz, giganews is, i'm sure, a great service, i dont happen to use it. If youre looking to truely help those who got dumped,(as everyone else on here came to your defence on) more power to ya, and sure use the term "bidness" all you want... I DID NOT mean to offend you !! besides that, when do we get to see a pic of you?? ;) stw WOW, i was just picking a bit and didnt even check back till now! ;)
@ Liz, giganews is, i’m sure, a great service, i dont happen to use it.
If youre looking to truely help those who got dumped,(as everyone else on
here came to your defence on) more power to ya, and sure use the term
“bidness” all you want… I DID NOT mean to offend you !!
besides that, when do we get to see a pic of you?? ;)

stw

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978627 Reader's Write Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:36:49 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978627 The $8/month Astraweb offer requires pre-paying for a year. It would be unwise to post binaries from that account unless you're 100% certain that they are public domain or the copyright owner certifies permission. Giganews has a history of locking people out of their accounts on the basis of unproven (emailed) accusations, and refusing refunds. Astraweb might some day do the same. (maybe it's a good thing that Giganews does not offer yearly subscriptions. It would be a bitch to lose several hundred dollars over a bogus accusation) The $8/month Astraweb offer requires pre-paying for a year. It would be unwise to post binaries from that account unless you’re 100% certain that they are public domain or the copyright owner certifies permission.

Giganews has a history of locking people out of their accounts on the basis of unproven (emailed) accusations, and refusing refunds. Astraweb might some day do the same. (maybe it’s a good thing that Giganews does not offer yearly subscriptions. It would be a bitch to lose several hundred dollars over a bogus accusation)

]]> By: surfer http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978607 surfer Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:08:28 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978607 price and value are not the same Orbit. If you think GigaNews is overpriced, that is your determination, and your choice. I consider 30USD a price that seriously outweighs the value I receive for said 30USD. (mine is actually higher, I have a premium account). If the MAFIAA had an 'all you can eat' buffet of content for the same price, they might possibly survive, however, their proclivity for greed and the almighty euro will never result is this type of scenario. So, instead Liz and GigaNews gets my dollar instead. As for retention, I never considered this, didn't even know it existed. I get what I want well in advance of its expiration (if that is what's meant by 'retention'). stw price and value are not the same Orbit. If you think GigaNews is overpriced, that is your determination, and your choice. I consider 30USD a price that seriously outweighs the value I receive for said 30USD. (mine is actually higher, I have a premium account).

If the MAFIAA had an ‘all you can eat’ buffet of content for the same price, they might possibly survive, however, their proclivity for greed and the almighty euro will never result is this type of scenario. So, instead Liz and GigaNews gets my dollar instead.

As for retention, I never considered this, didn’t even know it existed. I get what I want well in advance of its expiration (if that is what’s meant by ‘retention’).

stw

]]> By: Orbit http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978603 Orbit Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:31:10 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978603 Giganews is way over priced, for what Giganews charges at $30US a month you can get the same service from Astraweb for $8US a month. Giganews is way over priced, for what Giganews charges at $30US a month you can get the same service from Astraweb for $8US a month.

]]> By: liz@giganews.com http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978585 liz@giganews.com Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:15:57 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978585 Hey Reader's Write- Increasing retention is not a game changer :) Not saying it is not going to happen, but I would not consider that big news. This is the best article I have found (succinct and to the point) the Usenet.com case: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/judge-throws-book-at-usenetcom-in-riaa-lawsuit.ars Hey Reader’s Write-
Increasing retention is not a game changer :) Not saying it is not going to happen, but I would not consider that big news.
This is the best article I have found (succinct and to the point) the Usenet.com case:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/judge-throws-book-at-usenetcom-in-riaa-lawsuit.ars

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978559 Reader's Write Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:52:23 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978559 In another month Giganews' 365d retention will be reached. It seems likely that another major spool-up will begin on "day 366" to push retention far beyond Highwinds' planned 400day retention - in order to justify charging double to triple the price of Highwinds' service. The Giganews management must be sweating bullets (or sh*tting bricks) since news of the Usenet.com judgement broke. "Direct infringement" indeed. Usenet providers need to start a trade organization, something to represent their interests and stand up to the RIAA and MPAA. Otherwise it will be the enemies of internet freedom who will end up influencing the laws affecting the future of digital bulletin boards. In another month Giganews’ 365d retention will be reached. It seems likely that another major spool-up will begin on “day 366″ to push retention far beyond Highwinds’ planned 400day retention – in order to justify charging double to triple the price of Highwinds’ service.

The Giganews management must be sweating bullets (or sh*tting bricks) since news of the Usenet.com judgement broke. “Direct infringement” indeed.

Usenet providers need to start a trade organization, something to represent their interests and stand up to the RIAA and MPAA. Otherwise it will be the enemies of internet freedom who will end up influencing the laws affecting the future of digital bulletin boards.

]]> By: liz http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978532 liz Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:22:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978532 Thanks Jon and Surfer :)- I love Giganews so have no problem recommending it and spreading the word. it rocks. Thanks Jon and Surfer :) -
I love Giganews so have no problem recommending it and spreading the word.
it rocks.

]]> By: surfer http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978528 surfer Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:08:33 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978528 I think Liz and her company are only picking up left overs from a broken business model. There is no crime in providing a service that spineless corporations refuse to support due to sodomization by the fucking MAFIAA. Comcast dropped usenet years ago, so I turned to GigaNews, and they are a service I gladly pay INSTEAD of the MAFIAA. I think Liz and her company are only picking up left overs from a broken business model. There is no crime in providing a service that spineless corporations refuse to support due to sodomization by the fucking MAFIAA.

Comcast dropped usenet years ago, so I turned to GigaNews, and they are a service I gladly pay INSTEAD of the MAFIAA.

]]> By: Jon http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978527 Jon Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:55:31 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978527 @NO1UNO: How about just 'looking' for new business? Is there anything wrong with that? At least, they're offering something as well. :) Cheers! @NO1UNO:

How about just ‘looking’ for new business? Is there anything wrong with that? At least, they’re offering something as well. :)

Cheers!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978525 Reader's Write Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:41:53 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978525 "AT&T July 15 Usenet cut-off" When I read this under the headline, my first thought was that AT&T was going start blocking the NNTP protocol, cutting its users off from using Usenet at all. I think my heart skipped a beat. Of course it comes as no surprise that they're doing away with Usenet. They already got rid of the binary groups and their news servers were a joke anyway. Gee, since they're reducing the services they provide, will customers see a reduction in their bills? Yeah, right... “AT&T July 15 Usenet cut-off”

When I read this under the headline, my first thought was that AT&T was going start blocking the NNTP protocol, cutting its users off from using Usenet at all. I think my heart skipped a beat.

Of course it comes as no surprise that they’re doing away with Usenet. They already got rid of the binary groups and their news servers were a joke anyway.

Gee, since they’re reducing the services they provide, will customers see a reduction in their bills? Yeah, right…

]]> By: liz http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978523 liz Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:59:44 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978523 No1uno- bidness! I will use that all day tomorrow in very important corporate conversations- I dig it. what do you mean? the special or the news? befuddled and confused, please clarify. Liz No1uno-

bidness! I will use that all day tomorrow in very important corporate conversations- I dig it.
what do you mean? the special or the news?
befuddled and confused, please clarify.

Liz

]]> By: NO1UNO http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978517 NO1UNO Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:15:42 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978517 I'm sorry Liz, but this just looks like sharking for new bidness !! I’m sorry Liz, but this just looks like sharking for new bidness !!

]]> By: liz@giganews.com http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978475 liz@giganews.com Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:05:43 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978475 Thanks Surfer :)- Keep an ear out for more news from Giganews in the next few weeks- it has been an insanely busy time for us- in a good way. Digging it! Thanks Surfer :) -

Keep an ear out for more news from Giganews in the next few weeks- it has been an insanely busy time for us- in a good way.
Digging it!

]]> By: surfer http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24689/comment-page-1#comment-978472 surfer Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:26:02 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24689#comment-978472 Liz rules. Liz rules.

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