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		<title>By: IratePirate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24703/comment-page-1#comment-978493</link>
		<dc:creator>IratePirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed this article as well as the comment by surfer. P2P really is more about person 2 person than anything else and I&#039;ve met a lot of interesting people thanks to the internet. It&#039;s funny too because the thing that most excited me when the internet first came to my town was the possibility of getting my hands on Photoshop (v2 or v3 at the time). Graphics has always driven my interest in computers, right from the first day I used an Apple II+. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined the future that has come to pass. It&#039;s hard to say what my number one use is these days. Forum posting, entertainment and education are the top three. I&#039;ve never had much money and probably never will short of winning the lottery. Thus I&#039;ve never really felt too bad about pirating, especially with the how the software &amp; entertainment cartels have reacted. I try to use open source apps whenever possible these days and will sometimes donate what I can for the really good ones, but open source solutions aren&#039;t always feasible sadly. One of the ways I tend to justify downloading a graphics application that I can&#039;t afford is how I tend to spend a lot of my time helping others where possible. In the past I&#039;ve written tutorials and have even had the honor of helping out someone from Weta once (can&#039;t say who for fear it may incriminate me, but will admit that his name is in the credits for the LotR trilogy). So in a small way I&#039;ve actually helped increase the value of some apps which is better than nothing. It doesn&#039;t hurt that helping others just feels good too. That is what I like about the internet most of all and is the whole idea behind P2P I think. People coming together to create social networks and help one another. Can&#039;t wait to see what the future has in store!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this article as well as the comment by surfer. P2P really is more about person 2 person than anything else and I&#8217;ve met a lot of interesting people thanks to the internet. It&#8217;s funny too because the thing that most excited me when the internet first came to my town was the possibility of getting my hands on Photoshop (v2 or v3 at the time). Graphics has always driven my interest in computers, right from the first day I used an Apple II+. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined the future that has come to pass. It&#8217;s hard to say what my number one use is these days. Forum posting, entertainment and education are the top three. I&#8217;ve never had much money and probably never will short of winning the lottery. Thus I&#8217;ve never really felt too bad about pirating, especially with the how the software &amp; entertainment cartels have reacted. I try to use open source apps whenever possible these days and will sometimes donate what I can for the really good ones, but open source solutions aren&#8217;t always feasible sadly. One of the ways I tend to justify downloading a graphics application that I can&#8217;t afford is how I tend to spend a lot of my time helping others where possible. In the past I&#8217;ve written tutorials and have even had the honor of helping out someone from Weta once (can&#8217;t say who for fear it may incriminate me, but will admit that his name is in the credits for the LotR trilogy). So in a small way I&#8217;ve actually helped increase the value of some apps which is better than nothing. It doesn&#8217;t hurt that helping others just feels good too. That is what I like about the internet most of all and is the whole idea behind P2P I think. People coming together to create social networks and help one another. Can&#8217;t wait to see what the future has in store!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24703/comment-page-1#comment-978463</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>âPeople will differ on the value of this change, depending on their feelings about privacy and their trust of the Government, but the effects of the increased use of encryption, and the subsequent difficulties for law enforcement in decrypting messages and files, will last far longer than the current transition to digital music delivery, and may in fact be the most important legacy of the current legal crackdown,â Shirky adds.


Haha!!! What did they expect???? For us to give up? Hell no!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>âPeople will differ on the value of this change, depending on their feelings about privacy and their trust of the Government, but the effects of the increased use of encryption, and the subsequent difficulties for law enforcement in decrypting messages and files, will last far longer than the current transition to digital music delivery, and may in fact be the most important legacy of the current legal crackdown,â Shirky adds.</p>
<p>Haha!!! What did they expect???? For us to give up? Hell no!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24703/comment-page-1#comment-978348</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many people in the 1920s who went to speakeasies to drink alcohol were prosecuted? Even after a raid?

Anyway, the RIAA lacks a Carrie Nation (or someone more charismatic) to spearhead a more effective anti-P2P movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people in the 1920s who went to speakeasies to drink alcohol were prosecuted? Even after a raid?</p>
<p>Anyway, the RIAA lacks a Carrie Nation (or someone more charismatic) to spearhead a more effective anti-P2P movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24703/comment-page-1#comment-978333</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now, âafter 10 years of failure, with literally millions of people living outside the law, it is time for our policy makers to recognize that the world of fantasy politics that Hollywood has encouraged should come to an end,â says Lessig adding:

âCongress should move on to the task of remaking the copyright system in order to make sense of digital technologies, not fight them. It should at a minimum completely deregulate amateur remixing, as well as establish a collective license to compensate artists for peer-topeer file sharing.

âAnd while it is at it, Congress should also radically increase the efficiency of the current copyright regime by requiring rights holders to at least help keep clear the records of who owns what. These changes would help us build a system in which artists actually get paid, rather than one that simply renders our kids criminals.â&quot;

And who will have the money to bribe... sorry, I meant &quot;lobby&quot; the politicians to make these changes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now, âafter 10 years of failure, with literally millions of people living outside the law, it is time for our policy makers to recognize that the world of fantasy politics that Hollywood has encouraged should come to an end,â says Lessig adding:</p>
<p>âCongress should move on to the task of remaking the copyright system in order to make sense of digital technologies, not fight them. It should at a minimum completely deregulate amateur remixing, as well as establish a collective license to compensate artists for peer-topeer file sharing.</p>
<p>âAnd while it is at it, Congress should also radically increase the efficiency of the current copyright regime by requiring rights holders to at least help keep clear the records of who owns what. These changes would help us build a system in which artists actually get paid, rather than one that simply renders our kids criminals.â&#8221;</p>
<p>And who will have the money to bribe&#8230; sorry, I meant &#8220;lobby&#8221; the politicians to make these changes?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a wonderful story surfer. Although I don&#039;t have as big a network of friends met through file sharing as you, I have met some wonderful people on forums centered (or at least started) around file sharing that live all over the world. Like you say, it is eye opening to have access to all these different cultures and to communicate with all these different people. File sharing is just the beginning, it is so much more than just access to free stuff for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a wonderful story surfer. Although I don&#8217;t have as big a network of friends met through file sharing as you, I have met some wonderful people on forums centered (or at least started) around file sharing that live all over the world. Like you say, it is eye opening to have access to all these different cultures and to communicate with all these different people. File sharing is just the beginning, it is so much more than just access to free stuff for me.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how ironic...

I was lambasted back in 96-99 by the underground community by voicing my opinion about the need to obtsuficatie our dealings, and pointing out the imperative of adopting encryption in our file sharing. This pretty much fell on deaf ears. Primarily due to the fact that the platform of choice was obscure enough to go unnoticed, and secondly, there was not a readily available process that would facilitate such an implementation. During this same time, while working my deeper and deeper underground, I found out that something similiar to this was already being utilized. A protocol known as FirstClass was being used by a substantial amount of the underground. It was very difficult to use, robust, and offered an option for encrypted packet transfers. Needless to say, I migrated to this platform in early 2001, begrudgingly accepted by my membership, all for the primary sake of anonymity. A substantial portion of the underground still uses this platform of choice, however, I found it highly counter-productive from the primary goal, socialization and file sharing.

I have noticed that since 2001, just about every single file sharing software application that relies on client/server interaction has a system of encryption built in. Necessity is the mother of invention, and it is plainly obvious to me that pressure from the assholes that are anti-file-sharing, regardless of their affiliation, software, books, music, movies, they have all introduced the necessity of encryption in order to obscure their proclivity of enforcing their will upon us.

For me, it began as &#039;kewl&#039;, being able to assess different types of software in order to make an educated decision on what to use moving forward, regardless for professional reasons, or for file sharing reasons. Initially I didn&#039;t host a server, and I was more interested in the social side of the file sharing community and not so much the files themselves. Files can be replaced, people are unique, and cannot. Also, there were significant impediments to sharing large amounts of data, broadband did not exist, nor did Gb size harddrives. As my file sharing evolved, I met a significant amount of incredible people from around the globe. I played chess with a friend in India, I spoke with a friend in Japan for research into a college project, I found out how hot the summers are in Australia, on and on and on. To me it was a cultural explosion. When the fascist mainstream media played down the riots in France, I had a friend that lived on a street in France where the cars were burning that told a different story. When the fireworks plant in Holland exploded because the company ignored safety regulations, it wasn&#039;t even on the news in the USA. The grounded Russian submarine that had Nuclear missiles on board, that the media SWORE didn&#039;t have any, well a friend in Poland cleared that right up.

After a while, I opened my own server, in order to help those that were like my before, without contacts. My ideology was based on a particular tale: Adobe Photoshop was around 600USD in 2001, and I knew many budding artists that had incredible talent, but unable to access this high priced software package. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I was idealistic, and facilitated getting that artist a copy of Photoshop so that he could learn how to use it, and once out of college, he could apply this skill to earn a living, and offer his art to the world. It cascaded from there...

My point is Michaelangelo and Van Gogh were adversaries in the art world, they competed vigorously in Italy for work. If you look closely, you will find a substantial amount of similarities  in their works. Imagine the world if Michaelangelo could have copyrighted the vision of an angel, refusing to allow any other artist to sculpt anything similar. There would be alot less angels in the world today.

The MAFIAA is destined to follow the results of prohibition, there is no question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how ironic&#8230;</p>
<p>I was lambasted back in 96-99 by the underground community by voicing my opinion about the need to obtsuficatie our dealings, and pointing out the imperative of adopting encryption in our file sharing. This pretty much fell on deaf ears. Primarily due to the fact that the platform of choice was obscure enough to go unnoticed, and secondly, there was not a readily available process that would facilitate such an implementation. During this same time, while working my deeper and deeper underground, I found out that something similiar to this was already being utilized. A protocol known as FirstClass was being used by a substantial amount of the underground. It was very difficult to use, robust, and offered an option for encrypted packet transfers. Needless to say, I migrated to this platform in early 2001, begrudgingly accepted by my membership, all for the primary sake of anonymity. A substantial portion of the underground still uses this platform of choice, however, I found it highly counter-productive from the primary goal, socialization and file sharing.</p>
<p>I have noticed that since 2001, just about every single file sharing software application that relies on client/server interaction has a system of encryption built in. Necessity is the mother of invention, and it is plainly obvious to me that pressure from the assholes that are anti-file-sharing, regardless of their affiliation, software, books, music, movies, they have all introduced the necessity of encryption in order to obscure their proclivity of enforcing their will upon us.</p>
<p>For me, it began as &#8216;kewl&#8217;, being able to assess different types of software in order to make an educated decision on what to use moving forward, regardless for professional reasons, or for file sharing reasons. Initially I didn&#8217;t host a server, and I was more interested in the social side of the file sharing community and not so much the files themselves. Files can be replaced, people are unique, and cannot. Also, there were significant impediments to sharing large amounts of data, broadband did not exist, nor did Gb size harddrives. As my file sharing evolved, I met a significant amount of incredible people from around the globe. I played chess with a friend in India, I spoke with a friend in Japan for research into a college project, I found out how hot the summers are in Australia, on and on and on. To me it was a cultural explosion. When the fascist mainstream media played down the riots in France, I had a friend that lived on a street in France where the cars were burning that told a different story. When the fireworks plant in Holland exploded because the company ignored safety regulations, it wasn&#8217;t even on the news in the USA. The grounded Russian submarine that had Nuclear missiles on board, that the media SWORE didn&#8217;t have any, well a friend in Poland cleared that right up.</p>
<p>After a while, I opened my own server, in order to help those that were like my before, without contacts. My ideology was based on a particular tale: Adobe Photoshop was around 600USD in 2001, and I knew many budding artists that had incredible talent, but unable to access this high priced software package. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I was idealistic, and facilitated getting that artist a copy of Photoshop so that he could learn how to use it, and once out of college, he could apply this skill to earn a living, and offer his art to the world. It cascaded from there&#8230;</p>
<p>My point is Michaelangelo and Van Gogh were adversaries in the art world, they competed vigorously in Italy for work. If you look closely, you will find a substantial amount of similarities  in their works. Imagine the world if Michaelangelo could have copyrighted the vision of an angel, refusing to allow any other artist to sculpt anything similar. There would be alot less angels in the world today.</p>
<p>The MAFIAA is destined to follow the results of prohibition, there is no question.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24703/comment-page-1#comment-978322</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Larry Lessig is featured in Playboy.&quot;

Just for a second, I was worried about more disturbing images...
:S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Larry Lessig is featured in Playboy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just for a second, I was worried about more disturbing images&#8230;<br />
:S</p>
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