I am curious, Shaw in BC said to my roommate “We’re throttling you for using BitTorrent, we are charged by the bit by Telus [assuming to access the backbone Telus has to the 'Net] and when you bitTorrent you’re using too much load” but they only throttled after a few days of continuous torrenting.

Rogers (Ottawa) only slowed us down when we exceeded our limits because again my roommate left his torrent software running over the weekend. Otherwise, with moderate torrenting, I haven’t experienced throttling, noticeably anyhow.

Bell, on the other hand, owns the lines (from what I understand from working there). They installed them, they bought and installed the frame relay, then the DMS 100 and 200 systems and the fiber. Back in 1998/99 someone was digging for construction and cut some fiber cables to the US. There is a main trunk running, like the 401, down through Windsor-Detroit.

I would have thought Bell, like Telus, peered with Rogers/Cogeco. How does Tech Savvy operate if they can’t use Bell’s network? Perhaps someone can explain how Bell is not peering?

And with the recent Bell/Telus merger, will Telus no longer let Shaw use their lines?

Bell operates the largest part of the Canadian infrastructure, and has been inarguably the biggest single cause of Canada’s failing internet status.

Keep looking at Bell’s practices. The peering issue is just the tip of the iceberg.
You’ll find a wealth of counter-productive, anti-competitive, anti-consumer, and unnecessary privacy-invading activities that have sparked most of the sentiment you’ve seen here.

I have little doubt that if you ran Bell, you wouldn’t have done any of this.

Possibly, Telco ISP licences could be staggered to drop 10K with each MLPA* connection.
After all, what are licence fee revenues compared to a whole nation that can inter-exchange data with each other without packet loss.

A country that communicates between all of its constituents is a happy, healthy economy.

There is no excuse for not peering in the Internet business.
The ISP game is not the Telephone game.
Transit should be separated from peering and not be the cause of peering denial policies.

*MLPA = Multi-Lateral-Peering-Agreement

when i read that line i stopped reading, this is exactly why north america is behind the rest of the world in internet.
the rest of the world are more interested in how it benefits the customers first and how it can lower the costs for the customers thus getting more subscribers and make more money.
but then on the other hand, it is a monopoly here in providers while you can have up to 10 different providers in an apartment building in europe with prices as low as $40 a month for a bundle of i-net,tv and phone.