Comments on: Pandora: still going bankrupt http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24830 p2pnet.net - reader powered Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:45:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: surfer http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24830/comment-page-1#comment-978540 surfer Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:39:15 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24830#comment-978540 I listen to ETN in germany, void of these fucking extortion shit. I am absolutely agog with the insanity of copyright, everyone should violate it , purposefully, methodically, determinedly. If the artists are spineless to aviod the MAFIAA, then share their shit. I listen to ETN in germany, void of these fucking extortion shit. I am absolutely agog with the insanity of copyright, everyone should violate it , purposefully, methodically, determinedly.

If the artists are spineless to aviod the MAFIAA, then share their shit.

]]> By: Gr8oldies http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24830/comment-page-1#comment-978516 Gr8oldies Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:58:28 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24830#comment-978516 Major labels and performing artists weren’t offended by the prospect of high rates driving struggling websites out of business.” In other words, “the copyright holders’ interest was in maximizing the amount of revenue, not maximizing the number of webcasters.” While that approach might work towards the record industry’s short-term goals, it probably would have killed the webcasting industry. In the long run, a healthy webcasting industry will probably be beneficial to artists and labels. Major labels and performing artists weren’t offended by the prospect of high rates driving struggling websites out of business.” In other words, “the copyright holders’ interest was in maximizing the amount of revenue, not maximizing the number of webcasters.” While that approach might work towards the record industry’s short-term goals, it probably would have killed the webcasting industry. In the long run, a healthy webcasting industry will probably be beneficial to artists and labels.

]]> By: Crosbie Fitch http://www.p2pnet.net/story/24830/comment-page-1#comment-978505 Crosbie Fitch Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:55:53 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=24830#comment-978505 I e-mailed Pandora's Tim Westergren over a year ago to say that Pandora's only future is to not stream any work for which there is a license fee. That means playing only the files a user already has or streaming such freely licensed music as might be found at Jamendo. That still doesn't prevent Pandora making recommendations, e.g. producing a playlist of recommended MP3 files that is then piped into BitTorrent or some other file-sharing program. In other words, let the listener pay the piper directly, whether the musician for their music, the songwriter for their song, or their friends for file-sharing. Disintermediate the labels and collection societies - they're pricing themselves out of the market. Pandora replied: "There is some question if it would be financially viable, even if it were practical to do this. Unfortunately it probably isn't practical." - Etienne Handman, COO. It is practical, and what's more, financially viable. If Pandora doesn't do it, someone else will. It's the future, hopefully Pandora's. If a payola mechanism was also implemented the labels would no doubt queue up to promote their releases (paying any license fee up front). The preferred alternative is as I expected not turning out to be at all financially viable. I e-mailed Pandora’s Tim Westergren over a year ago to say that Pandora’s only future is to not stream any work for which there is a license fee. That means playing only the files a user already has or streaming such freely licensed music as might be found at Jamendo. That still doesn’t prevent Pandora making recommendations, e.g. producing a playlist of recommended MP3 files that is then piped into BitTorrent or some other file-sharing program. In other words, let the listener pay the piper directly, whether the musician for their music, the songwriter for their song, or their friends for file-sharing. Disintermediate the labels and collection societies – they’re pricing themselves out of the market.

Pandora replied: “There is some question if it would be financially viable, even if it were practical to do this. Unfortunately it probably isn’t practical.” – Etienne Handman, COO.

It is practical, and what’s more, financially viable. If Pandora doesn’t do it, someone else will. It’s the future, hopefully Pandora’s. If a payola mechanism was also implemented the labels would no doubt queue up to promote their releases (paying any license fee up front).

The preferred alternative is as I expected not turning out to be at all financially viable.

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