The NEW Pirate Bay (Re-Post)
p2pnet news view P2P :- Below (and back by popular request, including mine 
) is surfer’s The NEW Pirate Bay.
All the original Readers’ Writes are back — each laboriously re-posted by hand, I’d like to point out.
Thanks surfer, and to everyone who took the trouble to let us know they wanted the item back online.
Cheers! And all the best …
Jon
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I tell you, I want some of what the Global Gaming Factory (GGF) is smokin`.
After the GGF sent out a press release concerning the imminent acquisition of The Pirate Bay for $7.8 million (krona?) the P2P doomsayers had a coronary, and with good reason. `The impending doom of the internet` was heard from Alaska to Australia.
Actually, very little real information was released beyond the `smoke-and-mirrors` bullshit GGF posted on their incredible, professionally designed website. I, personally paid it no mind. I don`t use BitTorrent at all, due to its` inherently dangerous platform. It is a sheeple protocol, and I stay away from these types of Honeypots. I figured, at some point, the truth will be revealed in all this.
Now CNET has posted a tidbit where the GGF squeak out a bit more information on where this is all heading.
Apparently The NEW Pirate Bay is going to envision a business model where the members will have to pay a monthly fee to basically seed content for others to download. After I stopped laughing madly, I began writing this article. I had to go back and read it again. Seriously.
With nary a content provider even mentioned, much less on board with this lunacy, they think that all 3.7 million members of The OLD Pirate Bay are just going to abandon their vicarious, destructive, evil file sharing ways, and actually start paying the GGF to seed files for them, willingly!
I gotta hand it to Peter Sunde, and Frederik Neij, they have balls, big ginormeous cohoñes the size of New Zealand. Even IF the GGF can produce the $7.8 million to purchase the domains (apparently that is ALL they are paying for) and servers that make up TPB, they can at least pay off the MAFIAA extortionist and possibly their lawyers, and maybe, MAYBE even stay out of jail.
Can you say glatter verbrecher?
`The users are in control`, Rosso is quoted on CNET. The more you seed, the less you will have to pay.
Honestly, I have not seen such a circus since Michael Jackson died.
I am just waiting for Cher and Paul McCartney to come rolling out of a Mini with rubber noses singing `I got you babe`.
With membership leaving faster than vegetarians at a hot-dog eating contest, and GGF`s stock value bordering on toilet paper, investigations into GGF`s insider trading fiasco, and the content cartel`s viewing this with as much puzzlement as the rest of the world, I cannot possible see this comic farce ever becoming anything other than the next Rick Roll.
Johnny got PB`ed..
Definitely, stay tuned
surfer
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July 20th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
NO1UNO Says:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm edit
âIn addition, GGF hopes to cut deals with ISPs. âWe hope to introduce a new BitTorrent technology that will optimize ISP traffic,â Rosso said. âWe can save ISPs up to 80 percent of their resources. Half of the Internet traffic is file sharing and half of that traffic is Pirate Bay.â â
Say what?? half the internet traffic is file sharing?? and half of that is TPBâ¦wow
Watch me Rockie, while i pull a number outta my ass!!
July 20th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
A B Says:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:55 pm edit
None of this makes business sense.
Either none of this makes sense deliberately (and thereâs a huge twist in the tale a coming) or thereâs been a gross error of judgement and everybody involved is thinking âNo, theyâve definitely double-checked this, it isnât a problem; I donât need to speak up and ask a dumb question.â
July 20th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
NO1UNO Says:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:06 pm edit
A B you are very right, it doesnt make a bit of sense. Im still waiting to see if they actually come up with the cash to buy it, much less make it fly with lead weights tied to it!!
stw
July 20th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Scaramouche Says:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:08 pm edit
Pump ân Dumpâ¦..
July 20th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:08 am edit
I will miss thepiratebay.org/legal threats section
July 20th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Devil’s Advocate Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:11 am edit
âI am just waiting for Cher and Paul McCartney to come rolling out of a Mini with rubber noses singing âI got you babeâ.â
So many unsettling images in that one sentence!
July 20th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Crosbie Fitch Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 6:59 am edit
BitTorrent is already a pretty efficient bandwidth exchange market, i.e. âIâll let you use my bandwidth to distribute what you want if you exchange an equivalent amount of bandwidth to distribute what I wantâ. To attempt to create a new market by introducing obstacles and unnecessary monetary transactions is a retrograde step, a market with reduced efficiency. It is possible it can consequently be made more legally resilient (to claims of copyright infringement), but any software engineer can recognise that an unnatural law that impedes distribution isnât going to make distribution more efficient. Nature abhors a monopoly.
Sounds to me like a case of I saw you coming.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Baloo Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:32 am edit
âI donât use BitTorrent at all, due to itsâ inherently dangerous platform. It is a sheeple protocol, and I stay away from these types of Honeypots.â
I am really having trouble getting past this comment. I view not using BitTorrent as a sheeple protocol. Maybe I just misinterpretted what you were saying.
I also cannot see how BitTorrent is a dangerous platform.
Can anyone help make sense of this comment?
July 20th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:52 am edit
In BitTorrent, you have a lot of abilities. Try this experiment on for size.
Download something using bittorrent (uTorrent), find the window that says peers, and read thru the connections from them to you. If you notice, you can see the IP address of all the seeders that you are downloading from. Now, all those seeders can see you as well. Consider one of those seeders an agent from MediaDefender that is frantically writing all those IP addresses down, taking screenshots and the like, so they can contact your ISP and force them to divulge the information for that IP address, and next thing you know you have a litigation extortion letter in the mail demanding $4000USD for your vicarious copyright infringement. And if you dont fess up the money, or even question it, it goes to $8000USD, and if you question it further, expect to be served with a lawsuit for copyright infringement from the battalion of lawyers employed by the RIAA.
does that open your eyes a bit?
July 20th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Baloo Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:08 am edit
â¦and thatâs why I love living in Canada (so far).
Your explanation does open my eyes to how BitTorrent can be a dangerous platform.
But, where do the sheeple come into play?
July 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:09 am edit
I donât believe there have been any lawsuits based on bittorrent. Not even one. If anyone has a link to a
lawsuit based on bittorrent p2p, post a link.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:09 am edit
sheeple is just surfer showing his contempt for anyone not as informed as him.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:15 am edit
a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple”>Sheeple
July 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:40 am edit
yes, sheeple is just surfer showing his contempt for anyone not as informed as him. The RIAA is learning that you canât teach people anything through namecalling and lawsuits, maybe our side can understand the same principle.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Baloo Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:42 am edit
I understand the idea of Sheeple (the new buzzword). But how does it apply to the concept of BitTorrent and file sharing?
July 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:47 am edit
In this case, I use it to reference people using protocols that they think are safe without researching the implications of using said protocol. It is not used as an insult or name-calling, it, by nature, is only a definition. Calling someone stupid is an opinion, watching someone use KaZaa with a shared folder without understanding the implications that could arise from such behaviour is fact.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:48 am edit
heâd explain what the cool scene dudes like him do except weâre too stupid to understand.
if he does fake an explanation heâll make it sound as complex as possible, since weâre all too stupid to get it. going to eat some grass now.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Dreddsnik Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:50 am edit
â donât believe there have been any lawsuits based on bittorrent. Not even one. â
Not being interested in the morning flame war, THIS does pique my interests.
Iâm gonna do some hunting. Surfer, if you already know the answer, save me some time.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Dreddsnik Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:01 pm edit
So far I am coming up empty with individuals sued for using bittorrent.
I AM finding lots of instance of trackers, and server owners sued, even though
they donât store or host infringing content, but we already knew that.
The strategy with BT SEEMS to be â itâs to hard to get the users, so weâll go after the trackers, cheaper to
buy a judge or two â .
My opinion, for what itâs worth, is that they are afraid that going after users aggressively will encourage
more innovation in the bt protocol, once again making things even harder for the labels, ( hence, buying
bittorrent from cohen ? ).
Historically they sue, then buy out who they sue to prevent innovation buy imposing their proven
disastrous model using the sued parties name.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:07 pm edit
âthey can at least pay off the MAFIAA extortionist and possibly their lawyersâNo way they give money to these parasites!
NO WAY!
The parasites must die and they will.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:11 pm edit
because the âdistributionâ of pieces in the BitTorrent network via seeding is hard to prove culpability, there are no lawsuits that I am aware of. that does not, however, eliminate the RIAA from continuing research on how to leverage it into another money stream. The fact that it is unsafe by exposing your IP to copyright infringement alone makes it a protocol to avoid.
âheâd explain what the cool scene dudes like him do except weâre too stupid to understand.â
I fail to see the relevance of this statement, and how is my âresistance to spill what the cool kids doâ impede your ability to research protocols yourself? I have on many occasion, mentioned in posts and comments potential protocols that are far better than BitTorrent, so your foot-stomping is pretty much irrelevant.
What I use, and how I file share is my business, you can either accept my advise about BitTorrent, or donât, help yourself, this is a free thinking society.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Baloo Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm edit
Sorry, Surfer. I dont mean to take you away from your philosophy homework. But itâs all too easy to make a case for sheeple whenever a large group of people are doing something the same.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Baloo Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:14 pm edit
Blogging come to mindâ¦.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:19 pm edit
hehehe, point well taken. I am only trying to use my understanding and experience to HELP those that dont. Granted, generalization and prejudicial opinions are counter productive, but there are close to 50 million bittorrent users globally. just because a massive amount of people use a protocol doesnât, by default, make it a good choice.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Baloo Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:33 pm edit
I agree with you. BitTorrent might be the only thing available to users due to a lack of understanding on alternatives.
Maybe someone can enlighten people on alternate forms of file sharing in their entriesâ¦.not naming any names.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:44 pm edit
we are in fact in development of an open source alternative that will allow file sharing in a secure, stable, cross platform environment, but the development team is not ready to release this to the world just yet. it is around 95% complete, and when ready for public consumption, I guarantee, I will release the information here first.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Dreddsnik Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:44 pm edit
â just because a massive amount of people use a protocol doesnât, by default, make it a good choice. â
It also by default doesnât make it the worst choice either.
It is the safest choice for the AVERAGE computer user ( that I am aware of ),
at this time. Most average users donât have the âheadâ for too much complexity.
this doesnât make them stupid, or sheep, nor does it mean they deserve to get reamed.
â an open source alternative that will allow file sharing in a secure, stable, cross platform environment, â
heh, the nicest thing to know about this is that, chances are really good that if the corporate cartels had not
gone all sue-happy, is that this development would probably not be coming very soon. since it wouldnât have been
needed.
War always forces innovation, and this IS a war.
Canât wait to see it, is there beta for PC ? ( probably not, but my budget will likely never allow for a Mac .. Ubuntu ? )
July 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:22 pm edit
yes, there is a free beta client for linux and windows platforms.
âthis doesnât make them stupid, or sheep, nor does it mean they deserve to get reamed.â..
sighâ¦
to clarify, I used the term âsheepleâ to describe the protocol, at no time did I insinuate anyone was stupid, or sheep, nor did I âreamâ anyone for their use of said protocol. If you wish to pointedly be libelous, please try and be accurate.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Dreddsnik Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:49 pm edit
â If you wish to pointedly be libelous, please try and be accurate. â
I donât see anywhere in my post that insinuated you did.
But I see you really donât need a reason to be needlessly insulting.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Devil’s Advocate Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:45 pm edit
@surferâ¦
Letâs be fair.
âSheepleâ IS a derrogatory term for people who blindly copy the actions/instructions of others.
When you say that a protocol is a âsheeple protocolâ (a curious phrase in itself – you canât use one noun to describe another noun), all youâre doing is implying that any and all people that use it are idiots in some way.
In effect, you invited the reaction you got.
Words mean so much. Please use responsibly.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm edit
update:
seems the content cartels are NOT on board for this circus, and in fact are trying to abscond any monies changing handsâ¦
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10288495-93.html
July 20th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm edit
âLetâs be fair.â
in all honesty, I would love to just come out and educate every single person using unsafe protocols with the how-to on file sharing and anonymity, what I currently use to file share with, procedures to implement security, and potential locations to find the best copyrighted content on the planet.
in the interests of being âfairâ, that just ainât gonna happen.. It took me 12 years to build the community(s) I currently enjoy, and if anyone would like one of their own, then invest the time, research, development, resources and money just like I did, and you too can have the âcool kidsâ ring just like I do. but that ainât gonna happen either, sheeple are more interested in getting what they want via the path of least resistance and fuck the consequences.
so if the shoe fitsâ¦
and in continuing to be âfairâ, all those that implement bittorrent usage, including a robust router, PG2, travel private, invitation only networks, and maintain secure, encrypted harddrives, my apologies for including you in my accusations that you are indeed sheeple.
now DA, in all honestly, how many of those 50 million practice the sentence above? hmm?
July 20th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Devil’s Advocate Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 5:55 pm edit
@surferâ¦
I didnât ask for that, and you know it!
âLetâs be fairâ¦â was only in reference to your âsheeple protocolâ statement, which caused a bit of a stir (because of the âlanguageâ), which in turn you objected to.
Geez! Do you really think Iâd be the one expecting you to shed 100 IQ points and start posting âdetailed instructionsâ for people that canât be bothered to do their own homework?!?! (How many times have I already flamed those kind of people?)
July 20th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 7:14 pm edit
fair enough, mua-hahahhaha
believe me, if I wanted to apply insult, there would be crying.
I would suggest anyone wanting to enter into a battle of wits, they should come armed. (not directly referring to you DA..)
tell you what, I will compile in a post, the possible file sharing solutions that are out thereâ¦
stw
July 20th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Drake Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm edit
Wayne Rossoâs still alive?
As much as I dislike his vision of P2P, I have to hand it to him for being able to convince people to pay him tens of thousands of dollars to ultimately deliver nothing. He promised everyone that Mashboxx would be huge but it became vapourware. Now heâs banking on cashing in on the most casual BitTorrent users, who wonât know whatâs going on when theyâre presented with an option to purchase a file when theyâre trying to download it for free.
This will be a complete failure but I think Wayne Rosso knows this already.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Devil’s Advocate Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pm edit
âI would suggest anyone wanting to enter into a battle of wits, they should come armed. (not directly referring to you DA..)â
Donât be pullinâ a âKoltaiâ on us here!
July 20th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
surfer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm edit
hahahhahahahah
July 20th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm edit
If any business I mean any business our anyone is invovled with one of the big seven entertainement corporation of parasites we have to boycott them.
Not a peny should go to the RIAA/MPAA bag of criminals.
BOYCOTT THE PARASITES!
No movie, no DVD, no CD no download no nothing!
This plague is destroying our society and our institution.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Reader’s Write Says:
July 18th, 2009 at 10:01 pm edit
âwe are in fact in development of an open source alternative that will allow file sharing in a secure, stable, cross platform environment, but the development team is not ready to release this to the world just yet. it is around 95% complete, and when ready for public consumption, I guarantee, I will release the information here first.â
And will this be for the masses, or only for the âeliteâ?
âto clarify, I used the term âsheepleâ to describe the protocol, at no time did I insinuate anyone was stupid, or sheep, nor did I âreamâ anyone for their use of said protocol. If you wish to pointedly be libelous, please try and be accurate.â
Not in this post, but you have in the past. I canât find the post now, but I remember you once telling people not to use BitTorrent, eDonkey, or any of the other well known P2P networks and saying that if people were dumb enough to keep using them, they were beyond help. Or words to that effectâ¦
âin all honesty, I would love to just come out and educate every single person using unsafe protocols with the how-to on file sharing and anonymity, what I currently use to file share with, procedures to implement security, and potential locations to find the best copyrighted content on the planet.
in the interests of being âfairâ, that just ainât gonna happen.. It took me 12 years to build the community(s) I currently enjoy, and if anyone would like one of their own, then invest the time, research, development, resources and money just like I did, and you too can have the âcool kidsâ ring just like I do. but that ainât gonna happen either, sheeple are more interested in getting what they want via the path of least resistance and fuck the consequences.â
Which translates to; âIf you have to ask, youâre not cool enough to know.â
If you donât have the right connections, you get nowhere. Not to mention that in most cases, itâs a catch-22. They donât want to know you unless you have tons of stuff to share, but where are you supposed to get the stuff to share if youâre not supposed to use the unsafe networks?
I use eDonkey and BitTorrent, but only for older more obscure stuff. For anything recent, I either download it through free Rapidshare links or I download it from Usenet.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
End original comments thread …
July 20th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
>> Readerâs Write Says:
>> July 17th, 2009 at 12:08 am edit
>>
>> I will miss thepiratebay.org/legal threats section
We do a “response to takedown demands” thread in our company forum – it’s not exactly the same tone as TPB. I prefer to poke holes in the legal “theories” these spambot emails put forth, pointing out exactly how dumb they have to assume the rest of the world is to fall for this nonsense and do what they want them to do.
The weird thing is that not once have we ever received a response from the oligopolies or their hired mercenaries. Not once. I guess it’s just easier to churn out spam to the rest of the internet, and not worth actually answering questions. As we say in each of our responses, it is quite likely that their automated “abuse complaint” email system is illegal under various national anti-spam legislative frameworks – though we’re not holding our breath for law enforcement to actually “enforce the law” against the cartels. Still, it’s rather funny that they run on and on about “illegal filesharing” – while relying on actual, illegal spambot networks to extort cash payments from hapless targets. What’s the difference between “click here to buy super-secret Russian antispyware software” or “click here to give thousands of dollars to RIAA even though we have no legal standing to send you this email?” Right – the difference is the latter senders have lots of paid lobbyists.
Fausty
ps: BitTorrent works just fine. Anyone who claims it is “broken” because it is not intrinsically anonymous needs to go back and learn the basics of “routing” again. There is NO intrinsically anonymous routing framework – by logical necessity. Q.E.D.
July 20th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Most of my comments about the above are in the other article:
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25409/comment-page-1#comment-979405
The only thing I have left to say is in regards to the following quote:
“we are in fact in development of an open source alternative that will allow file sharing in a secure, stable, cross platform environment, but the development team is not ready to release this to the world just yet. it is around 95% complete, and when ready for public consumption, I guarantee, I will release the information here first.”
I’m happy to hear that it is open source. I often see comments regarding TPB’s legal battles about how we should all go back to a truly decentralized system of sharing. However, one of the reasons I like Bittorrent is because I have never ever downloaded a single fake. Should this new open source alternative you speak of catch on and become a sheeple protocol in it’s own right (poke poke), will it be possible for it to become flooded with fake files like all the other methods of file sharing have been? You also say it’s secure. I’m assuming it uses encryption and peer hoping (or whatever it’s called) by default, something similar to TOR perhaps. Would I be correct in assuming that? Can’t wait to try it out. These are the kinds of project worth donating money to.
July 20th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Seriously this is a good laugh.
I think the only ones that would be willing to pay would be the Linux Community to post new builds/Patches/etc.
But even then they don’t have the cash to do this as most do this stuff on the side as a hobby.
Next post we see on this may be something along this line.
“Death of the New Pirate Bay”
July 21st, 2009 at 12:12 am
Nice! Thanks for bringing your article back, surfer.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Surfer:
Thanks for bringing this back. Couple of things:
1. Anybody who doesn’t like potentially robust (or even downright rough) discussion should just toddle on off.
I’m totally on board with your “tell it like you see it” thing, as I think everybody else should do, as well.
Where I draw the line is personalistic bullshit. “Sam I am” tends to take shitty little potshots, and really seemed to have a perpetual hardon over me — I “still” live in PA, rather than being some kind of fashion designer, I actually bother to read up on the history and original thinking about Copyright law, etc. — so I finally troll-smashed him into oblivion over it. Does that mean I’m a total prick? No. It means I have no tolerance for bullshit.
2. A lot of the people protesting about Surfer’s no-holds-barred style seem to do so from behind the “reader’s write”, which is gutless in the extreme. I’ve locked horns with everybody on this board, multiple times, and Y’know what? Ultimately, until/unless somebody from p2pnet manages to find out where I live, bash in my front door, kill the cats, and rape my wife (or some other actually PHYSICAL “away-from-keyboard” type of actions), whether they called me names, or weren’t very “nice” means exactly SHIT, in the grand scheme of things.
We need to get over this bullshit of getting “offended” at the drop of a hat. I know there’s people here who, very likely, hate me and think I’m a total prick.
By the same token, I am neither as tech-savvy as Surfer, nor am I particularly interested in being such.
I think “undergrounds” — no matter how well-constructed and anonymous and “safe”, are ultimately totally fucking gutless. Effete little playgrounds for the “elect” piss me off (and yes, that does go for the “release scene” as well.)
Also, since the RIAA/MPAA/corporate thugs have demonstrated their complete indifference to actually suing people for stuff they REALLY DID (remember the dead folks and printers and such), anonymity is, quite frankly, no answer.
What is? An emerging global consensus that is open to questioning/disregarding things like “Intellectual property” if and when they become socially damaging. And Y’know what? To my way of thinking, however many millions of “sheeple” file-sharers using an “unsafe’ protocol in OPEN defiance of unjust laws is infinitely more valuable than any “underground”, no matter how safe.
Because ultimately, hiding is totally pussy. That’s one of the reasons I respect Surfer: he’s willing to come OUT of his “underground” and actually do something aboveground. I’ll repeat this again, just so nobody can possibly mistake my viewpoint here: hiding is pussy. There’s “concerns over privacy”, and then there’s “cowardice”, and it’s really easy to not notice the difference.
And as for the notion of “why should I tell anybody this stuff? They should put the effort/time/money in like I did” — how is that any different from the RIAA, or pharmaceutical companies buying themselves a longer patent-term when threatened with expiration?
It’s one thing to tack “STW” (share the wealth) on the end of your writings, and a totally different thing to actually DO it.
And that, ultimately, is what separates the big dogs from the lap-dogs.
(And no, I am most definitely not calling anybody out on this, just saying my say. If anybody doesn’t “get” where this is coming from, you can either ask me up front, and just suck it up.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:15 pm
holy shit, I get vindication from my hero.
this is vindication right here, Jon is pulling my chain, to restrict my comments, not posts… I gotta admit, I am with you on this one..
Your view, and posts are all right on, ive been impressed, you even sent in an article, very ’step-down-the-rhetoric’ of you, I liked.
but I agree, we cant compromise our principles in order to liquidate ideals to the masses. I am working on a balance between ‘fuck you’, and ‘let me explain’. this is not a fine line, this is a big chasm, unbeknownst to the masses, aka, sheeple.
thanks Henry, we have gone toe to toe, and have realized we are on the same side. Anyone interested in flaming me, should read Henry’s post first, it explains alot I refused to allot to you fucking dumasses out there in order to buffer the stupid algorithym.
Thanks Henry.
stw
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
I think my posts will go directly to a 10, and stay there, it is in the best interests of the board, its content, and respect to its readers.
if you don’t understand my posts, then you shouldn’t be here, or learn how to google shit.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Thanks for posting this, I have been away and missed the original.
I really enjoy surfer’s posts, they are some of my favorite on p2pnet as they can get very technical and tend to have strong opinions, stuff I like to read regardless of whether or not I agree with them.
I just have a question for you surfer, purely out of curiosity, what protocols do you use? Direct download? UseNet?