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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979862</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The real Parasites are the folks behind the RIAA - Sony BMG. EMI, Universal Music, and Warner Music. The world needs to stop doing business with these people.&quot;

Ya! we have to spray there first and the RIAA/MPAA and their law firms next.

Then we steal and or destroy the exec&#039;s properties of these nasty corporation of criminals lawers included.

Then we go after the corrupted judges, representatives and senators who were doing the entertainment industry deed for money.

The world will become a better place then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The real Parasites are the folks behind the RIAA &#8211; Sony BMG. EMI, Universal Music, and Warner Music. The world needs to stop doing business with these people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ya! we have to spray there first and the RIAA/MPAA and their law firms next.</p>
<p>Then we steal and or destroy the exec&#8217;s properties of these nasty corporation of criminals lawers included.</p>
<p>Then we go after the corrupted judges, representatives and senators who were doing the entertainment industry deed for money.</p>
<p>The world will become a better place then.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979858</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;20. HAVE YOU EVER BURNED A CDR? ________YES ________NO&quot;

Stupid question. The most obvious interpretation is a &quot;music CDR&quot;, but burning a CDR covers much more than music. Before recordable DVDs became affordable, CDRs were the only practical means of backing up files for most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;20. HAVE YOU EVER BURNED A CDR? ________YES ________NO&#8221;</p>
<p>Stupid question. The most obvious interpretation is a &#8220;music CDR&#8221;, but burning a CDR covers much more than music. Before recordable DVDs became affordable, CDRs were the only practical means of backing up files for most people.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979828</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are you a legal downloader or an illegal one?...will the Jury members know the difference??????&quot;

First off, downloading is NOT illegal, period!
However, UPLOADING the wrong thing to someone else is, in the most extreme, a civil infraction known as &quot;copyright infringement&quot;.  This needs to be stressed until everybody understands the way Big Media has succeeded in completely distorting the whole thing.

The jury selection process these cases pretty much removes anyone that would even grasp the above, leaving the &quot;off with his head&quot; mentality to rule the jury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are you a legal downloader or an illegal one?&#8230;will the Jury members know the difference??????&#8221;</p>
<p>First off, downloading is NOT illegal, period!<br />
However, UPLOADING the wrong thing to someone else is, in the most extreme, a civil infraction known as &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221;.  This needs to be stressed until everybody understands the way Big Media has succeeded in completely distorting the whole thing.</p>
<p>The jury selection process these cases pretty much removes anyone that would even grasp the above, leaving the &#8220;off with his head&#8221; mentality to rule the jury.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmyb</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion is - It&#039;s time that we stop referring to the RIAA as &quot;Parasites&quot;.  The real Parasites are the folks behind the RIAA - Sony BMG. EMI, Universal Music, and Warner Music.  The world needs to stop doing business with these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is &#8211; It&#8217;s time that we stop referring to the RIAA as &#8220;Parasites&#8221;.  The real Parasites are the folks behind the RIAA &#8211; Sony BMG. EMI, Universal Music, and Warner Music.  The world needs to stop doing business with these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Koltai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Koltai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, membership of iTunes and Rhapsody would appear to be a bad thing according to the list.
Also they missed emule and a whole pile of file sharing programs.

Shouldnt the question have remained at &quot;Have you ever downloaded music?&quot;

It would now appear that using iTunes legally disqualifies a potential juror. I&#039;m sure Steven jobs will love that little analogy.

OK - I do Grok the differentiation - &quot;Are you a legal downloader or an illegal one?&quot; Just thought I would stir the pot.
In other words, will the Jury members know the difference??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, membership of iTunes and Rhapsody would appear to be a bad thing according to the list.<br />
Also they missed emule and a whole pile of file sharing programs.</p>
<p>Shouldnt the question have remained at &#8220;Have you ever downloaded music?&#8221;</p>
<p>It would now appear that using iTunes legally disqualifies a potential juror. I&#8217;m sure Steven jobs will love that little analogy.</p>
<p>OK &#8211; I do Grok the differentiation &#8211; &#8220;Are you a legal downloader or an illegal one?&#8221; Just thought I would stir the pot.<br />
In other words, will the Jury members know the difference??????</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re suing on 30 songs.  He seems to admit that he probably downloaded them.  Let the jury sit down, be reasonable, and say he owes $29.70 at most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re suing on 30 songs.  He seems to admit that he probably downloaded them.  Let the jury sit down, be reasonable, and say he owes $29.70 at most.</p>
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		<title>By: NO1UNO</title>
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		<dc:creator>NO1UNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dredd, &quot;This mentality is not limited to americans.
Corporate control of governments is very close to global.&quot; Spot on brother!

@ everybody else, justice at its finest, you&#039;re guilty till proven inocent, and
you will NEVER EVER be tryed by a jury of your &quot;peers&quot;. Think about it, some
pusher gets caught doing his thing, do you really believe they would bring in
a jury full of pushers to hear his case.....really!

stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dredd, &#8220;This mentality is not limited to americans.<br />
Corporate control of governments is very close to global.&#8221; Spot on brother!</p>
<p>@ everybody else, justice at its finest, you&#8217;re guilty till proven inocent, and<br />
you will NEVER EVER be tryed by a jury of your &#8220;peers&#8221;. Think about it, some<br />
pusher gets caught doing his thing, do you really believe they would bring in<br />
a jury full of pushers to hear his case&#8230;..really!</p>
<p>stw</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979780</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;  donât like the major labels but Iâm also not fond of the something or nothing mentality of fat moron modern Americans.  &quot;

 This mentality is not limited to americans.
 Corporate control of governments is very close to global.
 To think it is strictly an american phenomenon is to ignore ones own back yard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;  donât like the major labels but Iâm also not fond of the something or nothing mentality of fat moron modern Americans.  &#8221;</p>
<p> This mentality is not limited to americans.<br />
 Corporate control of governments is very close to global.<br />
 To think it is strictly an american phenomenon is to ignore ones own back yard.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979766</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care about downloading music, I&#039;m a free jazz advocate and helper and the whole phenomenon of fetishism over stuff is a bit disturbed. That said the RIAA are idiots for wasting time on this when they could just set up an industry clearing house for back catalog downloads and price it to put all these bucket shops under. People will pay if the price is fair and the system is user friendly. 

The labels could enter a new heaven of making money from everything they own without the cumbersome mess of manufacturing and supply chain, just a fat server farm. The fact that they let Apple do this speaks volumes about their sclerotic senility.

I don&#039;t like the major labels but I&#039;m also not fond of the something or nothing mentality of fat moron modern Americans. It has hurtled us into the worst economic disaster since the great depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care about downloading music, I&#8217;m a free jazz advocate and helper and the whole phenomenon of fetishism over stuff is a bit disturbed. That said the RIAA are idiots for wasting time on this when they could just set up an industry clearing house for back catalog downloads and price it to put all these bucket shops under. People will pay if the price is fair and the system is user friendly. </p>
<p>The labels could enter a new heaven of making money from everything they own without the cumbersome mess of manufacturing and supply chain, just a fat server farm. The fact that they let Apple do this speaks volumes about their sclerotic senility.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the major labels but I&#8217;m also not fond of the something or nothing mentality of fat moron modern Americans. It has hurtled us into the worst economic disaster since the great depression.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979750</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand how they do this now.

Jury selection shall not be allowed. The jury should be chosen randomly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand how they do this now.</p>
<p>Jury selection shall not be allowed. The jury should be chosen randomly.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979748</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you keep pulling the tail of the tiger you are going to get it eventually.

The RIAA parasites are going to end up dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you keep pulling the tail of the tiger you are going to get it eventually.</p>
<p>The RIAA parasites are going to end up dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979747</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO JUSTICE NO PEACE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO JUSTICE NO PEACE.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979746</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, you see why the jury selection process is designed to hang the Defendant.

Instead of getting a &quot;jury of your peers&quot;, you get a jury of anything but.
You would think radical lawyers like Nesson would be jumping all over that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, you see why the jury selection process is designed to hang the Defendant.</p>
<p>Instead of getting a &#8220;jury of your peers&#8221;, you get a jury of anything but.<br />
You would think radical lawyers like Nesson would be jumping all over that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynix</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25655/comment-page-1#comment-979739</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;meanwhile, whether or not Joel v The RIAA will be a battle of wits or a similar farce remains to be seen&quot;

Of course it&#039;ll be a farce. Given how bent and corrupted by the kartels the politicians and the law courts have become.

You wait, the prosecution will again put forward some lame-ass case, riddled with the kinds of errors that would get any other case thrown out of court. They will surprise and gobsmack everyone by &quot;winning&quot; this case and use it to set precedent and force ever more draconian laws down our throats eg ACTA etc. If this scenario sounds familiar, just think back a few weeks to the farce that was the Pirate Bay &quot;trial&quot;.

The PR disasters don&#039;t matter, because establishing precendent in their interests is paramount, as they want to get all those horrible laws using their bent sock puppet politicians passed their way.

The great unwashed public have a short memory and when/if they&#039;ve got all the laws and technology set their way, the sheeple will gladly slurp the crap &#039;product&#039; they&#039;re dishing out.

File sharing will become socially unacceptable and will be driven underground, so that it once again only be relatively a few geeks who share files and they will always be looking over their shoulder.

Then Big Media really will win.

This is what really makes me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;meanwhile, whether or not Joel v The RIAA will be a battle of wits or a similar farce remains to be seen&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;ll be a farce. Given how bent and corrupted by the kartels the politicians and the law courts have become.</p>
<p>You wait, the prosecution will again put forward some lame-ass case, riddled with the kinds of errors that would get any other case thrown out of court. They will surprise and gobsmack everyone by &#8220;winning&#8221; this case and use it to set precedent and force ever more draconian laws down our throats eg ACTA etc. If this scenario sounds familiar, just think back a few weeks to the farce that was the Pirate Bay &#8220;trial&#8221;.</p>
<p>The PR disasters don&#8217;t matter, because establishing precendent in their interests is paramount, as they want to get all those horrible laws using their bent sock puppet politicians passed their way.</p>
<p>The great unwashed public have a short memory and when/if they&#8217;ve got all the laws and technology set their way, the sheeple will gladly slurp the crap &#8216;product&#8217; they&#8217;re dishing out.</p>
<p>File sharing will become socially unacceptable and will be driven underground, so that it once again only be relatively a few geeks who share files and they will always be looking over their shoulder.</p>
<p>Then Big Media really will win.</p>
<p>This is what really makes me sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is hilarious. If the aim of this is to prune the jury people to be good for the RIAA and bad for Joel, and they answer truthfully, there won&#039;t be anyone left. hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is hilarious. If the aim of this is to prune the jury people to be good for the RIAA and bad for Joel, and they answer truthfully, there won&#8217;t be anyone left. hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24. knowing that we are ruining the live of people who we THINK download stuff, are you actually going to answer 19-21 truthfully ?  _______ Yes, i&#039;m a tool   _______ are you fucking kidding me ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24. knowing that we are ruining the live of people who we THINK download stuff, are you actually going to answer 19-21 truthfully ?  _______ Yes, i&#8217;m a tool   _______ are you fucking kidding me ?</p>
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