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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26163/comment-page-1#comment-980442</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that I think is coolest about it, is that -- at least according to the Korea times article I found referencing it -- the format is explicitly not-drm&#039;ed.  So, you&#039;re really &quot;buying&quot; the file from them, rather than merely entering into some kind of skewed &quot;rental until we decide to kill it by changing the DRM license&quot; type of bullshit.

    Now, I don&#039;t actually think this will ever make it, simply because the corporate oligarchy holding the &quot;rights&quot; to the vast majority of creative culture (oops, I mean &quot;product&quot;) are a bunch of technophobic dickheads who think endlessly re-marketing &quot;classic&quot; albums and &quot;authorized&quot; remixes makes a good supplemental income-stream, between their latest manufactured Milli-Vanilli style &quot;talent&quot; and/or drug-whored-of-the-month.  (Don&#039;t take that how it sounded -- I genuinely feel bad for Britney Spears and Amy Winehouse, but still.)

   The corporate media oligarchy shit itself with fear when Dangermouse put out &quot;the Grey Album&quot;, so anybody who thinks they&#039;ll willingly do the technological equivalent of releasing the studio-masters to albums (which is just begging for remixers and mashup artists to go nuts), is giving them WAY too much credit.

   Still, the format itself is genius, and would be a total blas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that I think is coolest about it, is that &#8212; at least according to the Korea times article I found referencing it &#8212; the format is explicitly not-drm&#8217;ed.  So, you&#8217;re really &#8220;buying&#8221; the file from them, rather than merely entering into some kind of skewed &#8220;rental until we decide to kill it by changing the DRM license&#8221; type of bullshit.</p>
<p>    Now, I don&#8217;t actually think this will ever make it, simply because the corporate oligarchy holding the &#8220;rights&#8221; to the vast majority of creative culture (oops, I mean &#8220;product&#8221;) are a bunch of technophobic dickheads who think endlessly re-marketing &#8220;classic&#8221; albums and &#8220;authorized&#8221; remixes makes a good supplemental income-stream, between their latest manufactured Milli-Vanilli style &#8220;talent&#8221; and/or drug-whored-of-the-month.  (Don&#8217;t take that how it sounded &#8212; I genuinely feel bad for Britney Spears and Amy Winehouse, but still.)</p>
<p>   The corporate media oligarchy shit itself with fear when Dangermouse put out &#8220;the Grey Album&#8221;, so anybody who thinks they&#8217;ll willingly do the technological equivalent of releasing the studio-masters to albums (which is just begging for remixers and mashup artists to go nuts), is giving them WAY too much credit.</p>
<p>   Still, the format itself is genius, and would be a total blas</p>
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		<title>By: NO1UNO</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26163/comment-page-1#comment-980441</link>
		<dc:creator>NO1UNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.audizen.co.kr/product/product2.htm

If anyone is interested in the actual company thats working on the Music 2.0 program, theres the addy,
might be interesting stuff, if they can get it up and running before the MAFIASS kill it!</description>
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<p>If anyone is interested in the actual company thats working on the Music 2.0 program, theres the addy,<br />
might be interesting stuff, if they can get it up and running before the MAFIASS kill it!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26163/comment-page-1#comment-980424</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maroan:

   Exactly.  The problem is, RIAA and the corporate dinosaurs they represent, have done a really good job of propaganda and disinformation over the last several decades.  For example, they&#039;ve been able to transform copy&quot;right&quot; -- a government-granted monopoly privilege granted tor a limited time and specific purpose, and INTENDED to expire -- into the &quot;Sacred right of property&quot;.  They&#039;ve pretty much neutered the public domain, in that whenever anything comes close to expiring, they just buy themselves another term extension which is then applied retroactively.  

   Then they promote a skewed notion of creativity and innovation, where supposedly stuff just springs fully-formed from the brow of the artist -- as opposed to being part of the surrounding culture, influenced by influences, and suchlike.

   Then they dangle the stereotypical &quot;celebrity&quot; lifestyle as bait, and presto: Metallica become total corporate whores in the blink of an eye.
  
   The sad part about Metallica is they started out as a taper/bootleg-friendly band, explicitly encouraged people to copy their album and give it to friends, so as to generate a fan-base.   Suddenly, when the same exact thing is happening more efficiently (Napster) they turn into whiny little bitches.  Corporate Whoredom doesn&#039;t look very &quot;metal&quot;, y&#039;know?

   (Personally, I think their bullshit back then is what damaged their career -- nobody&#039;s going to take corporate whores seriously.)

  But yeah, the first -- and most difficult -- hurdle is to get people to reconsider how they think about stuff like copyright, creativity, innovation, art, stuff like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maroan:</p>
<p>   Exactly.  The problem is, RIAA and the corporate dinosaurs they represent, have done a really good job of propaganda and disinformation over the last several decades.  For example, they&#8217;ve been able to transform copy&#8221;right&#8221; &#8212; a government-granted monopoly privilege granted tor a limited time and specific purpose, and INTENDED to expire &#8212; into the &#8220;Sacred right of property&#8221;.  They&#8217;ve pretty much neutered the public domain, in that whenever anything comes close to expiring, they just buy themselves another term extension which is then applied retroactively.  </p>
<p>   Then they promote a skewed notion of creativity and innovation, where supposedly stuff just springs fully-formed from the brow of the artist &#8212; as opposed to being part of the surrounding culture, influenced by influences, and suchlike.</p>
<p>   Then they dangle the stereotypical &#8220;celebrity&#8221; lifestyle as bait, and presto: Metallica become total corporate whores in the blink of an eye.</p>
<p>   The sad part about Metallica is they started out as a taper/bootleg-friendly band, explicitly encouraged people to copy their album and give it to friends, so as to generate a fan-base.   Suddenly, when the same exact thing is happening more efficiently (Napster) they turn into whiny little bitches.  Corporate Whoredom doesn&#8217;t look very &#8220;metal&#8221;, y&#8217;know?</p>
<p>   (Personally, I think their bullshit back then is what damaged their career &#8212; nobody&#8217;s going to take corporate whores seriously.)</p>
<p>  But yeah, the first &#8212; and most difficult &#8212; hurdle is to get people to reconsider how they think about stuff like copyright, creativity, innovation, art, stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Maroan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maroan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I cant wait to see the fall of these dinosaures... Each time they claim to have a win (Tenebaum beeing the last to count) theyre just digging their own graves deeper. When will artists realise that these corpotations DO NOT serve their interests?? The day artists will realise that they, in fact can have a succesfull professional life without help of these parasites, then yes, these bastards will die...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I cant wait to see the fall of these dinosaures&#8230; Each time they claim to have a win (Tenebaum beeing the last to count) theyre just digging their own graves deeper. When will artists realise that these corpotations DO NOT serve their interests?? The day artists will realise that they, in fact can have a succesfull professional life without help of these parasites, then yes, these bastards will die&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, nice post, Henry!

Hey Jon,
Thought you were taking a day or two off!?
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, nice post, Henry!</p>
<p>Hey Jon,<br />
Thought you were taking a day or two off!?<br />
 <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ actually, Henry has been an official contributor for a long time: it&#039;s just he likes to do 99.9% recurring of his writing as comment posts. ;)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ actually, Henry has been an official contributor for a long time: it&#8217;s just he likes to do 99.9% recurring of his writing as comment posts. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im glad to see you finally got henry to write an article ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im glad to see you finally got henry to write an article <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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