Comments on: Who’s going to pay the RIAA?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:01:47 +0000

“Constitutionally speaking, Tenenbaum cannot be held responsible for the further sharing of those who downloaded from him, as the RIAA would like to suggest he should be.”

Right on. Those who downloaded from Tenenbaum are the indispensable parties that were required to be in the case as sued parties.

The judge should have thrown out the case because the indispensable parties, the downloaders and the song owners songwriters or publishers had not been included.

The judge just f****d up while some lawyers were just staring at the wall.

By: Jon

Jon — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:28:06 +0000

DA: There is a pot, of sorts. Ray has one via Recording Industry vs The People – http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18292. Direct link – https://my.fsf.org/donate/directed-donations/riaa/

Cheers!

By: Devil's Advocate

Devil's Advocate — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:13:55 +0000

I would rather see people contribute to a “pot” that would go toward getting better lawyers for the *right* victims. (Those who had the presence of mind not to admit to anything in the first place, thus guaranteeing a better chance of being defended.)

The whole file sharing scene needs better representation in these cases.
So far, all Nesson and the kids (as well-intentioned as they may have been) have succeeded in doing is helping to reinforce the BS about file sharing being “illegal” and ” all about piracy”. The 2 cases they presented so far, surprisingly, lacked any sense of substance, and failed to go after the RIAA to actually PROVE (if even possible!) the defendants in question had “distributed” anything.

Personally, I think placing our collective compassion for people such as Jammie and Joel is not doing the REAL argument any service. These people already threw away their defense by confessing too much – they should have bloody-well settled from the beginning, letting the “charity” of lawyers like Nesson et al go to those who have a much better chance of being defended and showing the judges who the real assholes have been.

By: J-P

J-P — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:34:22 +0000

To help you I would be paying the RIAA and that I am not willing to do.

Declare bankruptcy and use all the press contacts you have made to tell your story.

That is the way to do it. Pay and you pay them for having persecuted you. That is what I think.

J-P

By: Bernie

Bernie — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:26:57 +0000

I absolutely agree with Reader’s Write. I’m willing to bet that about .01% of the award will go to the artists involved. The record companies and the RIAA are horribly greedy, and have been revealed using spyware to track downloads people make. There is no way the rewards they get are justifiable. Further, the record companies have been ripping the artists out of all of their cash. I really hope the liberal and independent musicians out there create an efficient label that can break away from the corporate greed of the music industry (Trent Reznor comes to mind, given the things he says about music). The RIAA and the labels it supports will face extraordinary resistance while they continue to get exorbitant sums of money while simultaneously defecating on the artists we love.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:22:05 +0000

I say Joel should team up with Jammie and the others and launch a class-action counter suit, for extortion, illegal methods of collecting evidence, among other things. Individually, the defendents are easily beaten by the cartels, but together, they may very well have the case they need to win their freedom and put the blood sucking parasites in their place.

By: thepeer

thepeer — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:56:56 +0000

I’m reminded of Peter Sunde of The Pirate Bay who said of the $4m award against him and his co-defendants: “Even if we had the money I would rather burn everything I owned and not even give them … the ashes.”

Bully tactics, extortion and perversion of the law should not be rewarded, they should be resisted, fought back and beaten down. If Joel’s legal team can think of another way for the millions who do the same simple, harmless thing for which he has been persecuted to help him, please let us know. This, we should not do.