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	<title>Comments on: DRM. Hollywood wins. RealNetworks doesn&#8217;t.</title>
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		<title>By: voxleo</title>
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		<dc:creator>voxleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;....Bare-naked code isnât a program. Then people could compile their own program thus never having bought the program!&quot;

Now THAT is the kind of thinking I&#039;m talking about!  How &#039;bout it?  Anybody know if that would fly?

Unfortunately, US law is kind of stupid - but it was made by Americans so.... The upside is that it is changeable (so I hear) though it may be slow going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.Bare-naked code isnât a program. Then people could compile their own program thus never having bought the program!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now THAT is the kind of thinking I&#8217;m talking about!  How &#8217;bout it?  Anybody know if that would fly?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, US law is kind of stupid &#8211; but it was made by Americans so&#8230;. The upside is that it is changeable (so I hear) though it may be slow going.</p>
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		<title>By: deadboy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981190</link>
		<dc:creator>deadboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 
the context of this article makes absolutely no common sense...the reader who wrote the tree cutting down analogy hit it on the head. these copyright groups,their lawyers, and bribed judges dont live in our real world. when you read this article you get a good dose of bizarro world legislation education. i guess with the bribes and corruption any lawyer or judge can spew anything from their mouths with a straight face and be able to sleep at night.
cant wait for these old people to go and die off and let actual informed citizens start making decisions/laws.</description>
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the context of this article makes absolutely no common sense&#8230;the reader who wrote the tree cutting down analogy hit it on the head. these copyright groups,their lawyers, and bribed judges dont live in our real world. when you read this article you get a good dose of bizarro world legislation education. i guess with the bribes and corruption any lawyer or judge can spew anything from their mouths with a straight face and be able to sleep at night.<br />
cant wait for these old people to go and die off and let actual informed citizens start making decisions/laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981187</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummmm........not use vista?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummmm&#8230;&#8230;..not use vista?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981184</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you  people going to when Bill Gates of microsoft finally caves into the movie cartels and modifies windows vista and windows7  so that even the illegal software like dvd decrypter and dvd shrink of dvdfab or slysoft won&#039;t work ?

I hear dvd decrypter does not work with windows 7.

Surely it would not be that difficult.

I have a jerry rigged version of windows xp pro i am NEVER going to get rid of..................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you  people going to when Bill Gates of microsoft finally caves into the movie cartels and modifies windows vista and windows7  so that even the illegal software like dvd decrypter and dvd shrink of dvdfab or slysoft won&#8217;t work ?</p>
<p>I hear dvd decrypter does not work with windows 7.</p>
<p>Surely it would not be that difficult.</p>
<p>I have a jerry rigged version of windows xp pro i am NEVER going to get rid of&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981172</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patel?

The one who accepted bribes from the RIAA about Napster?

So now she accepted bribes from the MPAA?

I wonder why I am not surprised.

In addition [she] refered to the DMCA. Since the DMCA is unconstitutional because it authorize among other things abusive search an seizure, trying to enforce it is a crime.

Let&#039;s go and arrest her!

Anyway it will end up like this when all the entertainment executive parasites and their lawers will be rounded so why not start now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patel?</p>
<p>The one who accepted bribes from the RIAA about Napster?</p>
<p>So now she accepted bribes from the MPAA?</p>
<p>I wonder why I am not surprised.</p>
<p>In addition [she] refered to the DMCA. Since the DMCA is unconstitutional because it authorize among other things abusive search an seizure, trying to enforce it is a crime.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go and arrest her!</p>
<p>Anyway it will end up like this when all the entertainment executive parasites and their lawers will be rounded so why not start now?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981161</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US law is stupid, end of story...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US law is stupid, end of story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981157</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In her ruling, Judge Marilyn Hall Patel said that the complex meant that it was not illegal for consumers to copy their own DVDs â just illegal to produce a program that allowed them to do so.&quot;

Hmm... Could REAL sell their code, then point people to one of the free compilers out there?

Bare-naked code isn&#039;t a program. Then people could compile their own program thus never having bought the program!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In her ruling, Judge Marilyn Hall Patel said that the complex meant that it was not illegal for consumers to copy their own DVDs â just illegal to produce a program that allowed them to do so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; Could REAL sell their code, then point people to one of the free compilers out there?</p>
<p>Bare-naked code isn&#8217;t a program. Then people could compile their own program thus never having bought the program!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynix</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981154</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason for nailing RealDVD is obvious when you think about it. Sure there are lots of free &quot;illegal&quot; rippers out there without the same restrictions...

But as Jon keeps saying, it&#039;s all about control of when, where and how one consumes their &quot;product&quot;, so that they can control price and availability at their own whim and bleed the cash cow consumer for ever greater amounts and again and again for the same product in a different format, bit rate or whatever.

Big Media&#039;s thinking is to stomp out this software, then to eventually win over all the &quot;illegal&quot; software and methods to prevent any kind of uncontrolled copying at all. Period.

Achieving this may or may not be futile in the long run, but unfortunately in the meantime Big Media has got enough money and clout to bend governments all over the world to their will, don&#039;t they? Alright, it doesn&#039;t all go their way, such as with the grotesque three strikes internet policy, but overall their winning all the precedents aren&#039;t they, as sickening as that is.

They&#039;re slowly but surely taking away any and all fair use rights and driving anything that tries to restore them further and further underground and into illegitimacy. Disgusting, isn&#039;t it?

When you think about it like this, the battle with Real makes perfect sense - the kind that a powerful and corrupt cartel would think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason for nailing RealDVD is obvious when you think about it. Sure there are lots of free &#8220;illegal&#8221; rippers out there without the same restrictions&#8230;</p>
<p>But as Jon keeps saying, it&#8217;s all about control of when, where and how one consumes their &#8220;product&#8221;, so that they can control price and availability at their own whim and bleed the cash cow consumer for ever greater amounts and again and again for the same product in a different format, bit rate or whatever.</p>
<p>Big Media&#8217;s thinking is to stomp out this software, then to eventually win over all the &#8220;illegal&#8221; software and methods to prevent any kind of uncontrolled copying at all. Period.</p>
<p>Achieving this may or may not be futile in the long run, but unfortunately in the meantime Big Media has got enough money and clout to bend governments all over the world to their will, don&#8217;t they? Alright, it doesn&#8217;t all go their way, such as with the grotesque three strikes internet policy, but overall their winning all the precedents aren&#8217;t they, as sickening as that is.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re slowly but surely taking away any and all fair use rights and driving anything that tries to restore them further and further underground and into illegitimacy. Disgusting, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>When you think about it like this, the battle with Real makes perfect sense &#8211; the kind that a powerful and corrupt cartel would think of.</p>
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		<title>By: kylekatarn</title>
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		<dc:creator>kylekatarn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another ridiculous case from the idiots at MPAA...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another ridiculous case from the idiots at MPAA&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fossil Lady</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981146</link>
		<dc:creator>Fossil Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think fossils should be allowed to rule on new-age technology.

if you&#039;re over 50, then you should be limited to Jon&#039;s other blog. That&#039;s it. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think fossils should be allowed to rule on new-age technology.</p>
<p>if you&#8217;re over 50, then you should be limited to Jon&#8217;s other blog. That&#8217;s it. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mpaa wasted their money, as there are already apps that decode/rip dvds, and unlike RealNetworks the software authors have no interest in working with or placating the mpaa.

&quot;btw, doesnt that judge look like something out of a horror movie&quot;
 Yeah, I even have the title: &quot;Beer Goggles, the Next Day&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mpaa wasted their money, as there are already apps that decode/rip dvds, and unlike RealNetworks the software authors have no interest in working with or placating the mpaa.</p>
<p>&#8220;btw, doesnt that judge look like something out of a horror movie&#8221;<br />
 Yeah, I even have the title: &#8220;Beer Goggles, the Next Day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981131</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cut down a tree in my backyard this morning which is not illegal, but it is illegal for Husqvarna to make a chainsaw that makes it possible for me to cut down a tree.
 And i also probably will be sued but some union for taking a job away, and then i&#039;ll be sued by the tree hugger association for taking down a tree.. 

 just a sarcastic point of view on the screw up world we live in...

 btw, doesnt that judge look like something out of a horror movie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cut down a tree in my backyard this morning which is not illegal, but it is illegal for Husqvarna to make a chainsaw that makes it possible for me to cut down a tree.<br />
 And i also probably will be sued but some union for taking a job away, and then i&#8217;ll be sued by the tree hugger association for taking down a tree.. </p>
<p> just a sarcastic point of view on the screw up world we live in&#8230;</p>
<p> btw, doesnt that judge look like something out of a horror movie</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t another company already win a similar case?
How does this new result and the previous result &quot;mesh&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t another company already win a similar case?<br />
How does this new result and the previous result &#8220;mesh&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26613/comment-page-1#comment-981128</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In her ruling, Judge Marilyn Hall Patel said that the complex meant that it was not illegal for consumers to copy their own DVDs â just illegal to produce a program that allowed them to do so.&quot;

What kind of crazy backward logic is that?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In her ruling, Judge Marilyn Hall Patel said that the complex meant that it was not illegal for consumers to copy their own DVDs â just illegal to produce a program that allowed them to do so.&#8221;</p>
<p>What kind of crazy backward logic is that?!</p>
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