CRTC secret ‘do-not-call list’ talks
p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- Canada’s national telephone marketing do-not-call list has been a sick joke from Day One.
Said p2pnet recently, “Run by Bell Canada, itself under attack for abusing its own customers, it`s administered by the CRTC (Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission), which`ll peddle it to marketeers for a nominal fee.”
According to CRTC, the list is an unqualified national success. But the truth is: it’s a serious national embarrassment.
Now, “The CRTC is to hold secret talks next week to determine whether three unidentified telemarketers knowingly violated the national do-not-call list,” says the Toronto Star, going on »»»
The agency has gone to extraordinary lengths to ensure you don’t know who the telemarketers are and what they did. It won’t even say when the three CRTC commissioners handling the matter are going to talk to each other by phone.
The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission took the step of striking the panel after the telemarketers refused to pay undisclosed fines.
Earlier in the year, the CRTC refused to identify two companies caught violating the list.
It wouldn’t say who they were, how they were nabbed, what penalties were imposed, or anything else.
According to DNCL boss Len Katz, the intent is not to drive telemarketers out of business or have them change their names, but to get them to abide by the rules.
Oh.
The secret talks comprise a, “meeting of a panel (only),” the Toronto Star says, adding:
” ‘They review what they have on file and make a determination. It is not a public hearing,” said a CRTC spokesperson. He said if the three commissioners — Timothy Denton, Louise Poirier and Michel Arpin (the CRTC’s vice-chairman of broadcasting) — determine the telemarketers violated the rules governing the do-not-call list, only then will their names and the fines be published on the CRTC website.
“The three being hauled onto the carpet may be only a tiny fraction of telemarketers flouting the law.
“The entire process has been shrouded in secrecy and critics say it is hard to believe a government agency would shield scofflaw telemarketers by first refusing to name them, then conducting a hearing behind closed doors.”
Said a p2pnet Reader’s Write when it was revealed the names of violators were to be kept secret »»»
The DNCL does absolutely nothing to deter unwanted telemarketers. The fact CRTC entrusted it to the Lord of The Rings (Bell) to manage it speaks volumes. LOTR aides and abetts to profit at the public`s expense whilst the CRTC turns a blind eye.
Despite (in spite of) the DNCL, the number of automated and robo calls that assailed my land line after I registered through my telephone company jumped from one or two a week to almost daily.
The majority of the calls showed up on call display as 123456789 or some other wierd friggen number that were usually untraceable. It pissed me off to the point where I changed my number to no effect. The calls resumed. Those f&<kers were and are now mining regional phone books.
My advice to the CRTC boss is to take the list away from LOTR and give it to an impartial body to manage the DNCL and provide that body with legal teeth that severly bite ass. I encourage him to do as Mr Martin suggests plus a bit more. Definitely pull the carpet out from under the feet of blatant offenders, read them the riot act but also bring out the riot shield and baton for greater detterence.
Maybe, then, we can all have our dinners in peace for at least three or four out of every seven days.
On a final note, I realize there will be telemarketers, as there are now, who will refuse to be dettered no matter what. Some will even go so far as to move outside our legal jurisdiction. Canadian telemarketers who outsource should be touted and penalized for what they are – marketers of crap and telspam. If the CRTC has any balls, they will pursue flouters and infringers openhandedly to curb the out-of-control telemarketing industry who think they can operate with impunity.
As for Mr. Katz, please have someone relay his home, work and cell #`s onto me and I will call daily and read him verbatim of all Sam-I-Am`s old postings. I`m confident, after a few calls, he will clue in and understand DO NOT CALL means do not call.
Stay tuned.
do-not-call list – Do Not Call List: total waste of time, November 20, 2008
abusing its own customers – p2pnet traffic shaping digest, April 19, 2008
national success – Do Not Call List a `success,` says CRTC, January 16, 2009
Toronto Star – August 21, 2009
caught violating the list – `Name Do Not Call violators`, July 13, 2009
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August 24th, 2009 at 11:28 am
the truth is that for the last two years since I joined the do-not-call list no vendors have called me
August 24th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
piratebay down and stays down
August 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
How CRTC corruption works
Here:
http://tochat.tv/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9
August 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Well, I see the “Dissolve The CRTC” petition has over 5,000 signatures now.
5,000 more are needed.
http://dissolvethecrtc.ca/node/1
If you’re sick of the present CRTC, and haven’t signed this petition yet, have a look and consider it.
August 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
OMG I’m glad I’m not the only one going threw this, since I went on the do not call list just after it started, the daily calls increased to 2 or 3 times a day, I even get calls on Sundays now. I’ve tried everything to con them out of giving up where they get my number from and who they are, I can’t even get that. I’ve broken two phones this year alone from throwing them across the room while still connected to some endless recording about a credit card that I’ve never owned or some apparent charity though they will not say who they are even when I try to trick them. I wish I had the guts to rip my own hair out and send it to the CRTC or Bell or who ever would notice. I’ve sent in complaints, I’ve phoned Bell right after repeat calls requesting to have the number traced. They do dick all and to be honest the first time I’ve ever felt even a tiny bit of relief is when I read the above readers letter (in the article). Who ever that was obviously was biting his tongue in half trying not to swear to much and I felt his/her pain. It is refreshingly odd to know that I’m not the only one. The ‘do not call list’ has made my life worse!!!!!!!!! I have to go unplug my phone and take a nap, thank you for letting me spew before I blew up all over my computer……
p.s. who ever wrote the first response, do they really have a phone that is really plugged into the wall and if so I will pay $500 to switch phone numbers
August 26th, 2009 at 1:04 am
It seems the piratebay tracker is down in this moment.