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	<title>Comments on: Muddying copyright waters</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2743/comment-page-1#comment-6366</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was discussed at length at www.TheBigHack.org last year where the original OFF system was devolped (look in the hack archives). If you want more discussion on it I would recommend you hit that place up. The guy White Raven that Jason mentions at his page was one of the founders of TBH. There is also a article here that touches on a similar process http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/madore/misc/freespeech.html

Cheers! FW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was discussed at length at <a href="http://www.TheBigHack.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.TheBigHack.org</a> last year where the original OFF system was devolped (look in the hack archives). If you want more discussion on it I would recommend you hit that place up. The guy White Raven that Jason mentions at his page was one of the founders of TBH. There is also a article here that touches on a similar process <a href="http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/madore/misc/freespeech.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/madore/misc/freespeech.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers! FW</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What is the copyright status of the resulting .mono file?&quot;

As I see it isn&#039;t this just a derivative work from an original? We all know how &quot;they&quot; and &quot;them&quot; love derivative works. 

Since when did &quot;they and them&quot; care whether a file is a mp3, avi, ogg mpeg etc, or if it was a sample or a complete work.

If it sounds like Britney Spears and it is Britney Spears what is it going to matter what program you used to create it?

Call me thick, I just don&#039;t see how is this going to put copyright on it&#039;s collective ear. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What is the copyright status of the resulting .mono file?&#8221;</p>
<p>As I see it isn&#8217;t this just a derivative work from an original? We all know how &#8220;they&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; love derivative works. </p>
<p>Since when did &#8220;they and them&#8221; care whether a file is a mp3, avi, ogg mpeg etc, or if it was a sample or a complete work.</p>
<p>If it sounds like Britney Spears and it is Britney Spears what is it going to matter what program you used to create it?</p>
<p>Call me thick, I just don&#8217;t see how is this going to put copyright on it&#8217;s collective ear.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2743/comment-page-1#comment-6358</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone claim they own a file that is the result
of performing a XOR with a file representing, say, a copyrighted performance
with the irrational number PI up to the same file length?

Or with any other irrational numbers for that matter?

As long as you do not provide the PI file you do not give sufficient
information to construct the original file.
Yet someone could caculate PI to the required number of decimals
in order to produce the original file.

Would that break the law?
Any lawyers in the room?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone claim they own a file that is the result<br />
of performing a XOR with a file representing, say, a copyrighted performance<br />
with the irrational number PI up to the same file length?</p>
<p>Or with any other irrational numbers for that matter?</p>
<p>As long as you do not provide the PI file you do not give sufficient<br />
information to construct the original file.<br />
Yet someone could caculate PI to the required number of decimals<br />
in order to produce the original file.</p>
<p>Would that break the law?<br />
Any lawyers in the room?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2743/comment-page-1#comment-6356</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus. I wish I could understand what the hell this article is about... jk. What a complex concept, though. Definitely worth exploring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus. I wish I could understand what the hell this article is about&#8230; jk. What a complex concept, though. Definitely worth exploring.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2743/comment-page-1#comment-6354</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you say &quot;exclusive or&quot;?  I knew you could!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you say &#8220;exclusive or&#8221;?  I knew you could!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2743/comment-page-1#comment-6352</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 05:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like encryption of content,
the legal protection mungling provides is probably proportionnal
to the difficulty of obtaining &quot;copyrighted content&quot;,
if that even means anything.

As usual, Jason Rohrer raises good points
that clarifies weakness in the whole copyright scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like encryption of content,<br />
the legal protection mungling provides is probably proportionnal<br />
to the difficulty of obtaining &#8220;copyrighted content&#8221;,<br />
if that even means anything.</p>
<p>As usual, Jason Rohrer raises good points<br />
that clarifies weakness in the whole copyright scheme.</p>
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