Copyright consultation submissions altered?
p2pnet news view | P2P | Politics:- Canadian government bureaucrats may be altering submissions put forward by Canadians in the much-vaunted online copyright consultation project.
It had, “one of its biggest days today with a major town hall in Toronto, a roundtable hours before, and increased media coverage,” blogs Michael Geist, going on »»»
The consultation has attracted growing attention in recent weeks as the chart on submissions below demonstrates.
There are now over 3,000 submissions with the overwhelming majority of them speaking out against Bill C-61, anti-circumvention rules, and for stronger fair dealing (earlier charts here, here, and here).
Unfortunately, the chart is not entirely accurate in part because the government has effectively been altering some of the submissions. This issue has arisen because of the large number of Canadians that have chosen to use the CCER submission form service. The service allows anyone to submit their comments by either using a form letter or modifying the content as they see fit.
The government has decided to treat virtually all submissions from the CCER IP address as the form letter and simply added the relevant name to a single copy of the letter (the chart below reflects the fact that each letter is, in fact, an individual submission. Note that this is not limited to CCER, the government is doing the same thing for a form letter from the Canadian Private Copying Collective).
I am reliably told that 10 to 20 percent of people who use the CCER site modify their submissions.
The government’s approach has wiped out those modifications entirely by adding names to a letter that they did not sign.
I raised this concern with Industry Canada yesterday. They responded:
Industry Canada does not alter submissions. They are posted as received. We recognize participants using the form letter may alter the contents of the letter to best express their personal positions and opinions. Every effort is made to identify variance in the contents of these form submissions. When we receive a form submission which also reflects a personal position, it is posted on the web site as a formal submission, in its original format.
While that may be intent, I have been provided [with] multiple examples of original or modified letters that have not been posted to the site but rather have simply had the authors’ names added.
For example, Justin Ruf of Yorkton, Saskatchewan, is listed as having signed the CCER letter and does not have an individual submission.
Yet this was his submission (posted with permission):
Dear Ministers,
I am a citizen who cares about Canada\’s cultural policy, and I am writing in regard to legislative proposals for \”copyright reform.\”
During the last Parliament, Bill C-61 provided some very sensible approaches to this complicated topic, but it also left room for improvement. As you consider the issue of copyright reform, I hope that you will work to ensure that any new legislation is not a regression from the sensible policies set out in Bill C-61.
In particular, I do not believe that \”digital rights management\” (DRM) technologies should stop the public from making lawful uses of their legitimately acquired media. Publishers using DRM push aside the delicate balance between copyright and the rights of the public – a balance set according to an assessment of the public interest by legislators – and replace it with one-sided rules that reflect publishers\’ private interests. Even artists disagree with publishers\’ anti-consumer use of DRM, as evidenced by the recently formed Canadian Music Creators Coalition. Therefore, as in Bill C-61, new copyright reform legislation should not make it illegal to circumvent DRM for lawful purposes.
Canada is going the way of American style DRM and this is a path we should not go down as evidenced that that course they have chosen has been nothing but problems. When I buy a product, ie a DVD/CD, why should I not be able to put that on my computer so I have have a back up copy or to stream it to my TV/sound system? Are we going to start to be like the Americans and start fining Grandparents for downloading a song off the internet, or maybe we could throw teenagers in jail? That would show them! This may sound crazy but it is happening in the USA because of a DRM system that favours Big Business.
This is an issue that a person must know more about in order to understand and I implore you to seek out the information, listen to a podcast on the issue, ask computer users, ask a consumer, ask yourself if you think you should be able to what they want with the things that you own.
These concerns are shared by a substantial and growing number of informed Canadian citizens. I hope that you will take them into account when considering any changes to Canadian copyright law. Thanks very much for your time.
Sincerely,
Justin Ruf
The submission is not even close to the same as the CCER letter, yet the government has listed Ruf as a signatory.
In my view, it is the wrong approach for all stakeholders. Every Canadian who takes the time to speak out – whether a single paragraph, a long essay, or a form letter – deserves to have their voice count as a submission.
Obviously any modified letter should be posted in its original form and I would argue that the same is true for a submission based on a form letter.
Regardless of the approach you take, there are just over two weeks to join the thousands of Canadians who have spoken out.
What are you waiting for – speak out on copyright today!
| Position | Number of Supporters |
| Submissions against another Bill C-61 | 2417 |
| Submissions in favour of shorter copyright term | 85 |
| Submissions against anti-circumvention or in favour of limiting DRM/Digital locks | 2517 |
| Submissions in favour of stronger personal use/copying and backup protections | 2475 |
| Submissions in favour of an open copyright system | 10 |
| Submissions advocating an end to the Crown Copyright | 12 |
| Submissions opposed to adopting an American-styled DMCA | 44 |
| Submissions in favour of stronger fair use/fair dealing protections | 2061 |
| Submissions opposed to implementing WIPO | 8 |
| Submissions in favour of eliminating all copyright | 3 |
| Submissions against a three-strikes rule | 25 |
| Submissions that favour a notice and notice approach | 2401 |
| Submissions in favour of instituting a levy for file-sharing/monetizing P2P | 19 |
| Submissions in favour of greater exemptions for education/research | 25 |
| Submissions in favour of establish a good-faith defence that the user believed their use of a work was fair and non-infringing | 2398 |
| Submissions in favour of laws that are technologically neutral | 2003 |
| Submissions that argue individuals should be protected from liability as long as their use was private and non-commercial | 1965 |
| Submissions in favour of a parody exemption | 5 |
| Submissions in favour of ISP neutrality | 5 |
| Submissions satisfied with current laws | 3 |
| Submissions calling for a strong public domain | 6 |
| Submissions in favour of stronger penalties for copyright infringement | 5 |
| Submissions in favour of turning copyright into a crime | 2 |
| Submissions arguing for protection for photographs | 3 |
| Submissions against works being available in digital or other forms for free | 80 |
| Submissions arguing for more protection for writers and other artists | 29 |
| Submissions opposed to creating new exceptions | 2 |
| Submissions opposed to an expansion of fair dealing | 1 |
| Submissions in favour of notice and takedown | 2 |
| Submissions in favour of implementing WIPO | 4 |
| Submissions promoting a collective licensing scheme | 5 |
| Submissions in favour of anti-circumvention/protecting digital locks | 1 |
| Submissions in favour of fining those who violate copyright laws | 5 |
| Submissions in favour of halting illegal file sharing | 2 |
| Submissions endorsing Bill C-61 | 1 |
| Submissions proposing the expansion of the private copying levy | 8 |
| Submissions in favour of increasing school fees and tariffs for books and photocopies | 1 |
| Total Submissions | 3003 |
Michael Geist – Government May Be Altering Copyright Submissions Without Consent, August 27, 2009
[Geist is the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa. He can be reached by email at mgeist @ uottawa dot ca]
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August 27th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Can’t say I’m surprised in the least.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Any way of finding out who had the gull to do that? If they are MP’s, they can be guaranteed to be not voted for in the future, as clearly they do not care to represent their constituents. If they are regular gov employees doing what they are told, such as the provincial police in Quebec during the Montebello Security meeting in 2008, they we need to find the guilty party (much like Mr Stockwell Day was removed as Minister of Public Safety, sworn in as Minister of International Trade) and deal with them appropriately.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Yup, now you know. This is what happens to form letters.
Just like spam, they go in the bin.
To play devil’s advocate (not the poster) it’s similar to every body working in the RIAA sending in an individual letter supporting their views.
BTW a “notice and notice” approach ? Since its so popular I have to inquire what it is.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
What a waste of time they will just do like the rest of the world, and ignore its population and side with the music and film industry. Just look at the East German Republic of soon to be ex United Kingdom(UK) for instance
August 28th, 2009 at 12:59 am
The amount of conflicting interests in the world has gotten way out of hand. I just cannot find the faith to trust in my government anymore. What happened recently with the Sea Shepherd ship the Farley Mowat is a good example of the direction we’re heading as a nation. Makes me wonder if we’re about to see the 60’s play out all over again.