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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6532</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d like to inform you that i kno some p2p programs that distribute san andreas for example eMule it has 107 san andreas files which one works i wouldn&#039;t know all im saying is theres no way you are gonna stop warez and dont ban video games thats pathetic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d like to inform you that i kno some p2p programs that distribute san andreas for example eMule it has 107 san andreas files which one works i wouldn&#8217;t know all im saying is theres no way you are gonna stop warez and dont ban video games thats pathetic</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6531</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d like to inform you that i kno some p2p programs that distribute san andreas for example eMule it has 107 san andreas files which one works i wouldn&#039;t know all im saying is theres no way you are gonna stop warez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d like to inform you that i kno some p2p programs that distribute san andreas for example eMule it has 107 san andreas files which one works i wouldn&#8217;t know all im saying is theres no way you are gonna stop warez</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6447</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>---It would therefore be nice to have games teaching people 
to help each other, be kind and compassionate.--- 

This kind of game would be just as challenging, and certainly more stimulating intellectually.

---It might also prove more interesting than ethernal competition for &quot;score&quot; or &quot;bragging rights&quot;.---

Right.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;It would therefore be nice to have games teaching people<br />
to help each other, be kind and compassionate.&#8212; </p>
<p>This kind of game would be just as challenging, and certainly more stimulating intellectually.</p>
<p>&#8212;It might also prove more interesting than ethernal competition for &#8220;score&#8221; or &#8220;bragging rights&#8221;.&#8212;</p>
<p>Right.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6444</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I didn&#039;t realised it was from a technewsworld story.

As a side note, I do think that abstracted and removed violence could
cause someone to not realise the reality of actual violence.
For this TV is much more to blame than games
since the destruction and pain are real but they do not touch us.
TV makes intellectualising and rationalising violence as normal and not
affecting us easy since we are not exposed to it in any way.

Therefore, children must understand the reality of violence.
Since they must also be protected from it this might not happen.
Without experience to help them see things from the perspective of the victims
childrens can think it&#039;s ok to use violence because they do not have to suffer the consequences.

It would therefore be nice to have games teaching people
to help each other, be kind and compassionate.
It might also prove more interesting than ethernal competition for &quot;score&quot; or &quot;bragging rights&quot;.

Maybe there already are games where the goal is not to destroy, conquer or otherwise defeat an enemy but rather to build, create and improve places, things or societies.
It is too common that these only serve as means to destruction or competition.
Or maybe we need to make them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I didn&#8217;t realised it was from a technewsworld story.</p>
<p>As a side note, I do think that abstracted and removed violence could<br />
cause someone to not realise the reality of actual violence.<br />
For this TV is much more to blame than games<br />
since the destruction and pain are real but they do not touch us.<br />
TV makes intellectualising and rationalising violence as normal and not<br />
affecting us easy since we are not exposed to it in any way.</p>
<p>Therefore, children must understand the reality of violence.<br />
Since they must also be protected from it this might not happen.<br />
Without experience to help them see things from the perspective of the victims<br />
childrens can think it&#8217;s ok to use violence because they do not have to suffer the consequences.</p>
<p>It would therefore be nice to have games teaching people<br />
to help each other, be kind and compassionate.<br />
It might also prove more interesting than ethernal competition for &#8220;score&#8221; or &#8220;bragging rights&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maybe there already are games where the goal is not to destroy, conquer or otherwise defeat an enemy but rather to build, create and improve places, things or societies.<br />
It is too common that these only serve as means to destruction or competition.<br />
Or maybe we need to make them.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6438</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh - I&#039;ll delve into this. Sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh &#8211; I&#8217;ll delve into this. Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6437</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. It&#039;s me quoting me. Frankly, I was trying to get as much mileage out of the story as I could. 

As a father, I&#039;m really alarmed by these violent games. I know first-hand just how easily a youngster&#039;s mind can be turned from watching something such as Rockstar &#039;games&#039; without the experience to put it into context - if there IS a context for this kind of stuff. 

Snuff movies? 

Anyway, it&#039;s not exactly the same as the p2pnet post so I figured I could get away with it ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. It&#8217;s me quoting me. Frankly, I was trying to get as much mileage out of the story as I could. </p>
<p>As a father, I&#8217;m really alarmed by these violent games. I know first-hand just how easily a youngster&#8217;s mind can be turned from watching something such as Rockstar &#8216;games&#8217; without the experience to put it into context &#8211; if there IS a context for this kind of stuff. </p>
<p>Snuff movies? </p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s not exactly the same as the p2pnet post so I figured I could get away with it ; )</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6431</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Games exploiting the lowest common denominator are not exactly the best ever.

But I believe the problem is deeper than this.
If you let TV (on which there are real horrible and graphic atrocities)
educate your children you should not afterwards blame games for their actions.
Children learn from those around them, and it is up to the parent to do the hard work of raising children.

To ban or not to ban? Not the point. Rather a distraction.
To educate or not to educate is the real issue here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Games exploiting the lowest common denominator are not exactly the best ever.</p>
<p>But I believe the problem is deeper than this.<br />
If you let TV (on which there are real horrible and graphic atrocities)<br />
educate your children you should not afterwards blame games for their actions.<br />
Children learn from those around them, and it is up to the parent to do the hard work of raising children.</p>
<p>To ban or not to ban? Not the point. Rather a distraction.<br />
To educate or not to educate is the real issue here.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6430</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yesterday, p2pnet editor Jon Newton&#039;s TechNewsWorld column featured Rockstar and its games.&quot;

Are you quoting yourself in this story or am I missing something?

Not that there&#039;s anything wrong with that, it just seems odd.

Or is this story from someone else?

Also, the comment about losing readers is odd.
I though this was a place to get news and information?

If you do not agree with a story you can post why you think the position is wrong.
If you think the news is bad, wrong, whatever don&#039;t just say it&#039;s bad.
Post a compelling text explaining why you think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yesterday, p2pnet editor Jon Newton&#8217;s TechNewsWorld column featured Rockstar and its games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you quoting yourself in this story or am I missing something?</p>
<p>Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with that, it just seems odd.</p>
<p>Or is this story from someone else?</p>
<p>Also, the comment about losing readers is odd.<br />
I though this was a place to get news and information?</p>
<p>If you do not agree with a story you can post why you think the position is wrong.<br />
If you think the news is bad, wrong, whatever don&#8217;t just say it&#8217;s bad.<br />
Post a compelling text explaining why you think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6422</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 04:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted the above.  When will you get me my password, jon! ;)


Drake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted the above.  When will you get me my password, jon! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Drake</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6421</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 04:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people also blame Marilyn Manson for all the ills of the world.  Others blame violent movies or video games.  Normal people will not become psycho&#039;s or criminals after playing GTA 3 or listening to Marilyn Manson.  Banning violent video games does not address the root of the problem.  Some people are just naturally demented and some of these people play GTA 3 or listen to Marilyn Manson.

When these people commit a crime the media tries to find out what made them do it and the easiest explanation they can come up with is that a violent video game, or lyrics in Manson&#039;s songs pushed them over the edge.

I say that if you can&#039;t see the humour of running over a group of Hare Krishna who are walking around chanting on the street, then you need to lighten up. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people also blame Marilyn Manson for all the ills of the world.  Others blame violent movies or video games.  Normal people will not become psycho&#8217;s or criminals after playing GTA 3 or listening to Marilyn Manson.  Banning violent video games does not address the root of the problem.  Some people are just naturally demented and some of these people play GTA 3 or listen to Marilyn Manson.</p>
<p>When these people commit a crime the media tries to find out what made them do it and the easiest explanation they can come up with is that a violent video game, or lyrics in Manson&#8217;s songs pushed them over the edge.</p>
<p>I say that if you can&#8217;t see the humour of running over a group of Hare Krishna who are walking around chanting on the street, then you need to lighten up. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6413</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting for PC version

PS2 sucks (lolol)

also, frontpage says  Rockstar video pirated, shouldn&#039;t taht be videogame?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting for PC version</p>
<p>PS2 sucks (lolol)</p>
<p>also, frontpage says  Rockstar video pirated, shouldn&#8217;t taht be videogame?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6408</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE video games. One of the reasons I don&#039;t play them is because if I did, I&#039;d never get any work done. And I don&#039;t have a problem with a certain amount of violence. It&#039;s all around us anyway. 

But this kind of crap is way out of bounds. 

End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE video games. One of the reasons I don&#8217;t play them is because if I did, I&#8217;d never get any work done. And I don&#8217;t have a problem with a certain amount of violence. It&#8217;s all around us anyway. </p>
<p>But this kind of crap is way out of bounds. </p>
<p>End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6407</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2777/comment-page-1#comment-6404</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty soon your going to start losing readers if you keep attacking GTA like this.

YOu have been warnbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty soon your going to start losing readers if you keep attacking GTA like this.</p>
<p>YOu have been warnbed.</p>
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