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p2pnet wins precedent-setting Crookes appeal

wayne crookes p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- Efforts by Vancouver, BC, businessman Wayne Crookes (right) to use Canada’s antiquated defamation laws to put a freeze on the net have been killed.

Crookes had tried to claim p2pnet defamed him by merely linking to an article.

But in a ruling with implications for not only Canadians, but for everyone everywhere with a net account, the  Court of Appeal for British Columbia has agreed with BC Supreme Court judge Stephen Kelleher’s decision that website owners aren’t responsible for defamatory content on other sites to which they’ve linked.

Representing me and p2pnet was Vancouver media lawyer Dan Burnett who said today »»»

This important case confirms that merely hyperlinking to a web page containing something defamatory doesn’t make you liable.

If you hyperlink and say something to support the defamatory statements, that’s different.

The Court of Appeal majority held that merely describing what the article is about along with your hyperlink is not enough to make the hyperlinker liable.

“The court also considered whether a number of hits can lead to an inference that some readers followed the hyperlinks and read the defamatory statements,” says Burnett, adding:

“The majority answered ‘no’, meaning plaintiffs need to prove more than simply a number of hits to prove publication.”

As I said the first time around, I was just an innocent (literally) spectator. The person who deserves the praise and kudos, and all of the credit, is Dan.

Crookes now has 60 days to file an application to appeal this latest ruling to the Supreme Court of Canada.

I’ll run the full decision tomorrow.

Click here to read it now.

Stay tuned.

Jon Newton – p2pnet

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Stephen Kelleher’s decision – Wayne Crookes vs p2pnet: full decision, October 28, 2009

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Efforts by Vancouver, BC, businessman Wayne Crookes to use Canada’s antiquated defamation laws to put a freeze on the net have finally been put to rest.

In a ruling with implications for not only Canadians, but for everyone everywhere with a net account, the  Court of Appeal for British Columbia has agreed with

could seek leave to the suopreme court of canada, but its unlikely it’be granted. based in qwhat they didt prove.

he has 60 days to file an

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19 Responses to “p2pnet wins precedent-setting Crookes appeal”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    WAY TO GO JON!!!!

  2. Anonymous Says:

    WAY TO GO Dan Burnett!!!

  3. Anonymous Says:

    You mean Crookes can can appeal the appeal?

    How many appeals of an appeal can one do?

  4. Anonymous Says:

    How much wood can a woodchuck (and Crookes) chuck?

  5. Anonymous Says:

    What about his very same lawsuit against Google and Geist that he dropped?

    Did he drop them in favor of going after you?

    Did he figure you are an easier target?

    Can you counter sue?

  6. Jon Says:

    I was the only person sued for linking alone.

    Cheers!

  7. Anonymous Says:

    It’s a big win for free speech and for the Internet as we know it, thanks a ton for that Jon.

  8. normal1515 Says:

    Way to go! This precedent will go along way in the fight for free speech online.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    COURT OF APPEAL FOR BRITISH COLUMBIA

    Crookes v. Newton

    Wayne Crookes and West Coast Title Search Ltd. Appellants (Plaintiffs)

    And

    Jon Newton Respondent (Defendant)

    http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/CA/09/03/2009BCCA0392.htm

  10. Sukasa Says:

    Congratulations Jon, and way to go, Dan!

    And congratulations to the courts for a Just decision.

  11. Scaramouche Says:

    Crook by name, Crook by nature

  12. Sukasa Says:

    Careful Scaramouche, he’ll sue you next!

  13. Irate Pirate Says:

    Congratulations Jon and Dan! It’s exciting to see the Canadian justice system work the way it was meant to. It’s a rare experience. I’m so giddy that I may just pull down my pants and moon someone at random tonight as a salute to Wayne Crookes for helping to make this phenomenal precedent possible. ;)

  14. EE Says:

    A Crookes by any other name……

    Seriously though congratulations. The courts got it right this time.

  15. Crosbie Fitch Says:

    So Jon, will your case in February still require your attendance as a mere formality, or will it be pre-emptively cancelled? Or is there really a chance Crookes will win an appeal?

  16. Cynix Says:

    Awesome, I’m so glad for you! :)

    Well done.

  17. Jon Says:

    @ Crosbie

    On to Number 2 – http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5230776.stm. And at this point, I doubt it’ll be a mere formality. As to pre-emptive cancellations, who knows? But that’d be nice, after four years of it hanging over my head.

    As to Wayne Crookes, he probably won’t want to pursue this any further but if he does …

    Cheers!

  18. Henry Emrich Says:

    Way to go, Jon.

  19. Dorothy Says:

    Glad to hear it, Jon!

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