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		<title>By: gagoonies</title>
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		<dc:creator>gagoonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They fear p2p.

They fear the future.

The future of the internet is a global uncensored anonymous wifi mesh uninhibited by 1984 big brother &amp; natural disaster.

They will screech loudly when molecular printers begin coming off the assembly lines disrupting hydrolic empires that feed their brood through monopoly.  In the future, individuals will trade recorded personal experiences through ephemeral seas online along with the atomic blueprints of objects like pizza slices, lilly allen albums, &amp; screwdrivers on demand at will for fabrication. 

Kiss the freedom of information&#039;s ass censorship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They fear p2p.</p>
<p>They fear the future.</p>
<p>The future of the internet is a global uncensored anonymous wifi mesh uninhibited by 1984 big brother &amp; natural disaster.</p>
<p>They will screech loudly when molecular printers begin coming off the assembly lines disrupting hydrolic empires that feed their brood through monopoly.  In the future, individuals will trade recorded personal experiences through ephemeral seas online along with the atomic blueprints of objects like pizza slices, lilly allen albums, &amp; screwdrivers on demand at will for fabrication. </p>
<p>Kiss the freedom of information&#8217;s ass censorship.</p>
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		<title>By: Blah blah blah</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-1020970</link>
		<dc:creator>Blah blah blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone attempting to inhibit your ability to communicate information is trying to control you. It equates directly to someone blinding &amp; gagging you. Damaging your ability to learn. Attempting to retard your mental development. Surely seems like a horribly awful thing to do to one&#039;s neighbors.

The purpose of censorship is to keep you ignorant. 

File sharing is the past, the present, &amp; the future. 

The future of the internet is a vast anonymous global wifi network which is self sustaining, big brother&#039;s opinion of one&#039;s online activity is trivial &amp; of no authority as net neutrality dictates allowing those who are wise enough to know such ways to augment their communications with the world. Since before the first communication by our species began we have continued to develop faster &amp; more efficient means of communication. The rate of information exchange is accelerating. So whatever hideous beastly form big brother&#039;s psychotic egotistical arrogant delusions take their blood will always stain the hillsides red as it flows, ritually sacrificed by dutiful monks to liberty &amp; freedom. You cant stop file sharing. Beautiful Pandora is outside the box and she is not going back.

You are your own authority. 

You decide what you shall download &amp; upload. 

As you gather data by accessing the internet what you are actually doing is augmenting your mind. You see, all those servers out in the twilight zone calculating &amp; crunching numbers are essentially extra organs of your mind. When you connect to the internet. You are using your senses to decipher information being made available to you by using your fingers touching the keyboard so sensually to interface with those enhancing resources which allow you to become a part of the macro intelligence of the network. Allowing individuals who do so, to reap the full benefit of those resources available making them a super intelligence. This process shall continue to evolve, in the future their will exist a transgenic cybernetic population. Man will continue from the clay to the statue &amp; beyond in exploration as he goes gathering &amp; truly understanding concepts. For instance in the future we will trade &amp; playback experiences recorded digitally over p2p networks for first person experience. We will also trade the atomic blue prints of desired objects for personal molecular printers in our homes who use carbon to construct our imaginations desire. So when we need a tomato plant with its genome hacked to produce extra delicious nutrient enriched psychedelic organic tomatoes we will simply download its blue print &amp; the molecular printers will grow it for us, make a screwdriver, make a pizza, and or make anything you want. Dream of it, then program its genome digitally, then share it across the stars. Offered up from the mind of the responsible artist enriching the world. It represents a coming revolution in product fabrication. A change in the development of our civilization. A shift away from a hydrolic empire towards greater self reliability, capability, and freedom. An advancement in personal living conditions for all who have access to such technologies. So those who attempt to impair such developments are in fact harming those who can benefit from such.

The little brains have been persecuting the big brains since prehistoric times and its never stopped us before.  We continue to dream &amp; make life better.

Remember you couldn&#039;t stop file sharing if you wanted to...but you can try &amp; experience a revolt if you do. The intelligentsia commit acts of psychic warfare as veterans in the field by hobby always out of love never for money as they sail the streams of the ephemeral seas of data through strange markets where they do sample all manner of format regardless of how anyone else feels about it as they should as they are righteous in doing so as free entities. 

Unless of course, they are slaves? 

Do you really own that nice car, that great property, and that beautiful home? 

What happens when you stop paying your tribute money to big brother? This illegal tax against us run by foreign powers against our great nations turned to plantation style farms where human cattle dwell for slaughter in misery beneath the heel of monopolistic imperial madness driven by inferior fools. Sacrificed to another one&#039;s selfish pleasure our freedom goes screaming murder as it is being killed as we miss our payments &amp; big brother comes to claim his true property all our collective stuff. That nice car, that great property, and that beautiful home were really his all along. The matrix is real, you are merely enchanted in a hypnotic magical glamor, which dictate the rules to you slave. You are expected to obey your master. Yes listen  to your master as his orders attempt to be echoed in programming into your psyche, here my wisdom &amp; merely smile in it&#039;s origin without fear for you have nothing to fear but fear itself &amp; their is no threat from disobeying. You may simply not answer its call. You may see it under any light you wish. You do not have to recognize it as a figure of authority. The illusion of it&#039;s control may be seen past to where darkness may be illuminated by your own spark through will power. Illuminating your third eye opens the gate to heaven. Liberate your mind to liberate your body from the clutches of immature psychic riff raff attempting to pick your pockets of energy.

You are simply renting everything you own from your overlord, your slave master. By what natural right are you denied equal standing in sovereignty to decide for yourself. Should you not believe me, simply stop paying your taxes. Hopefully you will not be harmed to badly as you are arrested then thrown into a gulag dungeon of horrors as everything you own is audited for liquidation at auction. No amount of tears will satisfy the parasitic vampires on their night until they have had their fill of your blood. Wake up slave wake up.

You may do as you please.

Enforce net neutrality by choosing not to be an agent of the matrix which favors imprisoning you. You may give your attention to &amp; lend psychic energy to in the process any thought form you choose. 

Fight censorship on all fronts as the tyranny it is. 

Phuck you lilly allen. ;-) 

Nothing has been destroyed in the process only created. Who may tell us as individual free sentience what we may create as the gods we are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone attempting to inhibit your ability to communicate information is trying to control you. It equates directly to someone blinding &amp; gagging you. Damaging your ability to learn. Attempting to retard your mental development. Surely seems like a horribly awful thing to do to one&#8217;s neighbors.</p>
<p>The purpose of censorship is to keep you ignorant. </p>
<p>File sharing is the past, the present, &amp; the future. </p>
<p>The future of the internet is a vast anonymous global wifi network which is self sustaining, big brother&#8217;s opinion of one&#8217;s online activity is trivial &amp; of no authority as net neutrality dictates allowing those who are wise enough to know such ways to augment their communications with the world. Since before the first communication by our species began we have continued to develop faster &amp; more efficient means of communication. The rate of information exchange is accelerating. So whatever hideous beastly form big brother&#8217;s psychotic egotistical arrogant delusions take their blood will always stain the hillsides red as it flows, ritually sacrificed by dutiful monks to liberty &amp; freedom. You cant stop file sharing. Beautiful Pandora is outside the box and she is not going back.</p>
<p>You are your own authority. </p>
<p>You decide what you shall download &amp; upload. </p>
<p>As you gather data by accessing the internet what you are actually doing is augmenting your mind. You see, all those servers out in the twilight zone calculating &amp; crunching numbers are essentially extra organs of your mind. When you connect to the internet. You are using your senses to decipher information being made available to you by using your fingers touching the keyboard so sensually to interface with those enhancing resources which allow you to become a part of the macro intelligence of the network. Allowing individuals who do so, to reap the full benefit of those resources available making them a super intelligence. This process shall continue to evolve, in the future their will exist a transgenic cybernetic population. Man will continue from the clay to the statue &amp; beyond in exploration as he goes gathering &amp; truly understanding concepts. For instance in the future we will trade &amp; playback experiences recorded digitally over p2p networks for first person experience. We will also trade the atomic blue prints of desired objects for personal molecular printers in our homes who use carbon to construct our imaginations desire. So when we need a tomato plant with its genome hacked to produce extra delicious nutrient enriched psychedelic organic tomatoes we will simply download its blue print &amp; the molecular printers will grow it for us, make a screwdriver, make a pizza, and or make anything you want. Dream of it, then program its genome digitally, then share it across the stars. Offered up from the mind of the responsible artist enriching the world. It represents a coming revolution in product fabrication. A change in the development of our civilization. A shift away from a hydrolic empire towards greater self reliability, capability, and freedom. An advancement in personal living conditions for all who have access to such technologies. So those who attempt to impair such developments are in fact harming those who can benefit from such.</p>
<p>The little brains have been persecuting the big brains since prehistoric times and its never stopped us before.  We continue to dream &amp; make life better.</p>
<p>Remember you couldn&#8217;t stop file sharing if you wanted to&#8230;but you can try &amp; experience a revolt if you do. The intelligentsia commit acts of psychic warfare as veterans in the field by hobby always out of love never for money as they sail the streams of the ephemeral seas of data through strange markets where they do sample all manner of format regardless of how anyone else feels about it as they should as they are righteous in doing so as free entities. </p>
<p>Unless of course, they are slaves? </p>
<p>Do you really own that nice car, that great property, and that beautiful home? </p>
<p>What happens when you stop paying your tribute money to big brother? This illegal tax against us run by foreign powers against our great nations turned to plantation style farms where human cattle dwell for slaughter in misery beneath the heel of monopolistic imperial madness driven by inferior fools. Sacrificed to another one&#8217;s selfish pleasure our freedom goes screaming murder as it is being killed as we miss our payments &amp; big brother comes to claim his true property all our collective stuff. That nice car, that great property, and that beautiful home were really his all along. The matrix is real, you are merely enchanted in a hypnotic magical glamor, which dictate the rules to you slave. You are expected to obey your master. Yes listen  to your master as his orders attempt to be echoed in programming into your psyche, here my wisdom &amp; merely smile in it&#8217;s origin without fear for you have nothing to fear but fear itself &amp; their is no threat from disobeying. You may simply not answer its call. You may see it under any light you wish. You do not have to recognize it as a figure of authority. The illusion of it&#8217;s control may be seen past to where darkness may be illuminated by your own spark through will power. Illuminating your third eye opens the gate to heaven. Liberate your mind to liberate your body from the clutches of immature psychic riff raff attempting to pick your pockets of energy.</p>
<p>You are simply renting everything you own from your overlord, your slave master. By what natural right are you denied equal standing in sovereignty to decide for yourself. Should you not believe me, simply stop paying your taxes. Hopefully you will not be harmed to badly as you are arrested then thrown into a gulag dungeon of horrors as everything you own is audited for liquidation at auction. No amount of tears will satisfy the parasitic vampires on their night until they have had their fill of your blood. Wake up slave wake up.</p>
<p>You may do as you please.</p>
<p>Enforce net neutrality by choosing not to be an agent of the matrix which favors imprisoning you. You may give your attention to &amp; lend psychic energy to in the process any thought form you choose. </p>
<p>Fight censorship on all fronts as the tyranny it is. </p>
<p>Phuck you lilly allen. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Nothing has been destroyed in the process only created. Who may tell us as individual free sentience what we may create as the gods we are?</p>
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		<title>By: Valter</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-984601</link>
		<dc:creator>Valter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this just about sums it up: http://kickupthefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/its-not-alright/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this just about sums it up: <a href="http://kickupthefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/its-not-alright/" rel="nofollow">http://kickupthefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/its-not-alright/</a></p>
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		<title>By: omg put out the flame</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983968</link>
		<dc:creator>omg put out the flame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Emrich is a wee tad mis-informed because her company (re: Indiana Gregg) got their seed capital BEFORE her stunt with the Pirate Bay. If you look up company&#039;s house in the UK, the company was formed and received it&#039;s investments from the Discovery Fund with co-investment from Scottish Enterprise in april 2008. Her fight with TPB was in June 2008. But, aside from that, her beta site is not anti-piracy, it&#039;s pro-musician&#039;s compensation. She has been lobbying for a license for music on the internet (globally) that would indeed actually help to &#039;legalise&#039; peer-to-peer and it&#039;s obvious that you&#039;re a little clueless about what is going on. She was just on the BBC last week talking about all this.  In the article she wrote that torrent freak published, you will find that nearly everything that she mentioned WOULD happen, HAS happened. But, file-sharers haven&#039;t come together to unite and find a reasonable solution that would work for both file-sharers and artists. So, all you lot have left it to people like Indiana Gregg to do your work for you. idiots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Emrich is a wee tad mis-informed because her company (re: Indiana Gregg) got their seed capital BEFORE her stunt with the Pirate Bay. If you look up company&#8217;s house in the UK, the company was formed and received it&#8217;s investments from the Discovery Fund with co-investment from Scottish Enterprise in april 2008. Her fight with TPB was in June 2008. But, aside from that, her beta site is not anti-piracy, it&#8217;s pro-musician&#8217;s compensation. She has been lobbying for a license for music on the internet (globally) that would indeed actually help to &#8216;legalise&#8217; peer-to-peer and it&#8217;s obvious that you&#8217;re a little clueless about what is going on. She was just on the BBC last week talking about all this.  In the article she wrote that torrent freak published, you will find that nearly everything that she mentioned WOULD happen, HAS happened. But, file-sharers haven&#8217;t come together to unite and find a reasonable solution that would work for both file-sharers and artists. So, all you lot have left it to people like Indiana Gregg to do your work for you. idiots</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983952</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Henry:
75 000/yr?  Damn, that&#039;s a step up from where I am.  Probably more enjoyable than hardware software integration testing/debug on satellite systems.  Less stressful in some aspects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Henry:<br />
75 000/yr?  Damn, that&#8217;s a step up from where I am.  Probably more enjoyable than hardware software integration testing/debug on satellite systems.  Less stressful in some aspects.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983931</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert:

   &quot;Lily, if you create excellent work, your fans will spread the word, your filesharing counts will go up, more people will be exposed, youâll enlarge your fanbase, more people will see you perform, more people will purchase your albums and swag.&quot;

   OR she can just generate a bunch of no-effort-needed publicity by slagging the &#039;pirate issue&#039; (and cash in on the latest moral panic to boot!).  That&#039;s easy, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert:</p>
<p>   &#8220;Lily, if you create excellent work, your fans will spread the word, your filesharing counts will go up, more people will be exposed, youâll enlarge your fanbase, more people will see you perform, more people will purchase your albums and swag.&#8221;</p>
<p>   OR she can just generate a bunch of no-effort-needed publicity by slagging the &#8216;pirate issue&#8217; (and cash in on the latest moral panic to boot!).  That&#8217;s easy, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983930</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily Allen should debate Nina Paley:

    &quot;This may be hard to hear, but: many artists who claim they just want to eat and pay rent are lying (perhaps to themselves). Most artists don&#039;t want a living wage â they want to win the lottery. Suggest to most filmmakers and musicians that &quot;success&quot; is about $75,000 a year, and they&#039;ll turn up their noses. You call that a jackpot? They&#039;re only in it for the millions, baby. If that means working a day job and remaining obscure, so be it. Millions need to be poor so that one can be rich; they&#039;re willing to do their time being poor, so that one day they can be rich at the expense of others. Their turn will come, they think.&quot;

   That about nails all of Lily&#039;s stupid blather about how she &quot;didn&#039;t start out with the Ferraris&quot;, doesn&#039;t it?

   Lily Allen -- the Major Label&#039;s latest idiot poster-child.

   (What happened to Amy Winehouse?  At least her crack-addled antics were kinda fun on occasion.) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily Allen should debate Nina Paley:</p>
<p>    &#8220;This may be hard to hear, but: many artists who claim they just want to eat and pay rent are lying (perhaps to themselves). Most artists don&#8217;t want a living wage â they want to win the lottery. Suggest to most filmmakers and musicians that &#8220;success&#8221; is about $75,000 a year, and they&#8217;ll turn up their noses. You call that a jackpot? They&#8217;re only in it for the millions, baby. If that means working a day job and remaining obscure, so be it. Millions need to be poor so that one can be rich; they&#8217;re willing to do their time being poor, so that one day they can be rich at the expense of others. Their turn will come, they think.&#8221;</p>
<p>   That about nails all of Lily&#8217;s stupid blather about how she &#8220;didn&#8217;t start out with the Ferraris&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>   Lily Allen &#8212; the Major Label&#8217;s latest idiot poster-child.</p>
<p>   (What happened to Amy Winehouse?  At least her crack-addled antics were kinda fun on occasion.) <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983921</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vato Loco:
    I, for one, COULD have taken you seriously enough to debate you further -- until you decided to claim that &quot;kids&quot; think their &quot;rebellious&quot; because they use Linux.  Do you have *any* understanding of the issues you&#039;re discussing, or don&#039;t you?
   
   (Then again, I *do* like the film your nickname comes from: &quot;Blood in, Blood out&quot; was a really good film.  

    Don&#039;t think we don&#039;t understand what you&#039;re trying to do -- it&#039;s easy to paint the p2p debate as people just wanting to rip off corporate giants, no matter who else gets screwed over in the process, but that&#039;s simply not true.
    
   Now please do me (and yourself) a favor:  go actually read back over some of the stuff on this site, questioncopyright.org, Torrentfreak, or just get Lawrence Lessig&#039;s book &quot;Free culture&quot; -- it&#039;s available for free online, so you don&#039;t have any excuse not to.

   Read up on the issues involved -- NOT just the RIAA-sponsored propaganda campaign -- and THEN come back and debate us.

    Until then, speaking strictly for myself, I can&#039;t take you seriously.

    Especially given the fact that you&#039;ve misunderstood the Linux/open-source/&quot;free software&quot; thing so severely, but that&#039;s another issue.

    Tell me something: do you think the people protesting the World Trade Organization talks in Seattle were trying to be &quot;rebellious?&quot;

   What&#039;s so bad about &quot;rebellion&quot;, anyway?  When a given type of power or influence is *unjust*, it&#039;s only RIGHT to &quot;rebel&quot; against it.

   So don&#039;t try to portray Linux users as the equivalent of the Unabomber or something, it won&#039;t work.

    And stop preaching against &quot;rebellion&quot; when your nickname derives from a gang flick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vato Loco:<br />
    I, for one, COULD have taken you seriously enough to debate you further &#8212; until you decided to claim that &#8220;kids&#8221; think their &#8220;rebellious&#8221; because they use Linux.  Do you have *any* understanding of the issues you&#8217;re discussing, or don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>   (Then again, I *do* like the film your nickname comes from: &#8220;Blood in, Blood out&#8221; was a really good film.  </p>
<p>    Don&#8217;t think we don&#8217;t understand what you&#8217;re trying to do &#8212; it&#8217;s easy to paint the p2p debate as people just wanting to rip off corporate giants, no matter who else gets screwed over in the process, but that&#8217;s simply not true.</p>
<p>   Now please do me (and yourself) a favor:  go actually read back over some of the stuff on this site, questioncopyright.org, Torrentfreak, or just get Lawrence Lessig&#8217;s book &#8220;Free culture&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s available for free online, so you don&#8217;t have any excuse not to.</p>
<p>   Read up on the issues involved &#8212; NOT just the RIAA-sponsored propaganda campaign &#8212; and THEN come back and debate us.</p>
<p>    Until then, speaking strictly for myself, I can&#8217;t take you seriously.</p>
<p>    Especially given the fact that you&#8217;ve misunderstood the Linux/open-source/&#8221;free software&#8221; thing so severely, but that&#8217;s another issue.</p>
<p>    Tell me something: do you think the people protesting the World Trade Organization talks in Seattle were trying to be &#8220;rebellious?&#8221;</p>
<p>   What&#8217;s so bad about &#8220;rebellion&#8221;, anyway?  When a given type of power or influence is *unjust*, it&#8217;s only RIGHT to &#8220;rebel&#8221; against it.</p>
<p>   So don&#8217;t try to portray Linux users as the equivalent of the Unabomber or something, it won&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>    And stop preaching against &#8220;rebellion&#8221; when your nickname derives from a gang flick.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983919</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Who the fuck is Lilly Allen?  
2. What have I been saying about folks who don&#039;t understand the history or purpose of copyright etc.?
3.  Intentionally &#039;misunderstanding&#039; the p2p thing has a big payoff:

   Nobody ever heard of Indiana Gregg before her little pissing-contest with the Pirate bay guys.

   Afterward, she&#039;s been showered with startup capital, which she&#039;s poured into her new &#039;anti-pirate&#039; venture www.kerchoonz.com.
   
    True, the site isn&#039;t really anything innovative: mp3.com and Soundclick both allow artists to upload their stuff for people to hear for free, and every halfbaked &quot;web 2.0&quot; startup has the same basic &quot;social networking&quot; features -- it&#039;s pretty obvious that she would never have gotten the startup capital for it, if she hadn&#039;t thrown a hissy fit about TPB.   So not only did she get vast amounts of *totally free publicity and visibility* when the TPB squabble propegated across other p2p-related sites, but she ALSO gets to look like some kind of crusading savior-figure protecting artists from the big, bad p2p scene.

    Pitiful that anybody would actually believe it, but people have believed far worse -- hence our continued befuddlement as to just where those WMD&#039;s WERE in Iraq exactly, etc......

    As to D7Ser999999, don&#039;t even bother attempting to debate him.  I doubt he&#039;s an RIAA shill, because they usually just recycle RIAA talking-points.  He *might* be analagous to &quot;Sam I Am&quot; (somebody who goes around spewing butthurt nonsense at blogs with which he doesn&#039;t agree), but I doubt it.  The way he throws &quot;anarchist&quot; around (thinking it&#039;s a slur-word) also indicates he&#039;s politically illiterate, much the way Republicans here in the United States tend to misuse the word &quot;socialism&quot; to describe any kind of domestic spending (since we all know they&#039;ve got a perpetual hardon for the military-industrial complex etc.)

   Question for D7ser9999: how is questioning the application of a particular law &#039;anarchist?&quot;

    Bonus points if you can actually name even ONE prominent &#039;anarchist&#039; theoretician (and no, the Sex Pistols don&#039;t count.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Who the fuck is Lilly Allen?<br />
2. What have I been saying about folks who don&#8217;t understand the history or purpose of copyright etc.?<br />
3.  Intentionally &#8216;misunderstanding&#8217; the p2p thing has a big payoff:</p>
<p>   Nobody ever heard of Indiana Gregg before her little pissing-contest with the Pirate bay guys.</p>
<p>   Afterward, she&#8217;s been showered with startup capital, which she&#8217;s poured into her new &#8216;anti-pirate&#8217; venture <a href="http://www.kerchoonz.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kerchoonz.com</a>.</p>
<p>    True, the site isn&#8217;t really anything innovative: mp3.com and Soundclick both allow artists to upload their stuff for people to hear for free, and every halfbaked &#8220;web 2.0&#8243; startup has the same basic &#8220;social networking&#8221; features &#8212; it&#8217;s pretty obvious that she would never have gotten the startup capital for it, if she hadn&#8217;t thrown a hissy fit about TPB.   So not only did she get vast amounts of *totally free publicity and visibility* when the TPB squabble propegated across other p2p-related sites, but she ALSO gets to look like some kind of crusading savior-figure protecting artists from the big, bad p2p scene.</p>
<p>    Pitiful that anybody would actually believe it, but people have believed far worse &#8212; hence our continued befuddlement as to just where those WMD&#8217;s WERE in Iraq exactly, etc&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>    As to D7Ser999999, don&#8217;t even bother attempting to debate him.  I doubt he&#8217;s an RIAA shill, because they usually just recycle RIAA talking-points.  He *might* be analagous to &#8220;Sam I Am&#8221; (somebody who goes around spewing butthurt nonsense at blogs with which he doesn&#8217;t agree), but I doubt it.  The way he throws &#8220;anarchist&#8221; around (thinking it&#8217;s a slur-word) also indicates he&#8217;s politically illiterate, much the way Republicans here in the United States tend to misuse the word &#8220;socialism&#8221; to describe any kind of domestic spending (since we all know they&#8217;ve got a perpetual hardon for the military-industrial complex etc.)</p>
<p>   Question for D7ser9999: how is questioning the application of a particular law &#8216;anarchist?&#8221;</p>
<p>    Bonus points if you can actually name even ONE prominent &#8216;anarchist&#8217; theoretician (and no, the Sex Pistols don&#8217;t count.)</p>
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		<title>By: NO1UNO</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983908</link>
		<dc:creator>NO1UNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ D.A..................lmao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ D.A&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;lmao</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983897</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^
(Oh, wait... that was Katy Perry)
(Never mind!)
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^<br />
(Oh, wait&#8230; that was Katy Perry)<br />
(Never mind!)<br />
 <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983893</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I kissed their ass, and I liked it!&quot;
:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I kissed their ass, and I liked it!&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Vato Loco</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983890</link>
		<dc:creator>Vato Loco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys can get quite fanatic. I agree with D7sr90999 and at some point with Lilly. You shouldn&#039;t all hyped and offended when someone does not like file sharing. You&#039;re no better than kids that feel rebellious because they use Linux and &quot;fuck Microsoft&quot;.

Lilly makes quite a good points, those people saying they don&#039;t care about file sharing, are in huge bands with millions of fans (and dollars), and it is indeed really difficult for a new band to get money to pay the record label with just live performances (specially nowadays with labels taking as much as 40% or your total income of every live show).

The whole music industry is flawed, big labels most disappear, but the idea of paying for a nice record should not. Don&#039;t forget that making a record is not just some blonde singing into a autotuned beat. Lots of people work behind to make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys can get quite fanatic. I agree with D7sr90999 and at some point with Lilly. You shouldn&#8217;t all hyped and offended when someone does not like file sharing. You&#8217;re no better than kids that feel rebellious because they use Linux and &#8220;fuck Microsoft&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lilly makes quite a good points, those people saying they don&#8217;t care about file sharing, are in huge bands with millions of fans (and dollars), and it is indeed really difficult for a new band to get money to pay the record label with just live performances (specially nowadays with labels taking as much as 40% or your total income of every live show).</p>
<p>The whole music industry is flawed, big labels most disappear, but the idea of paying for a nice record should not. Don&#8217;t forget that making a record is not just some blonde singing into a autotuned beat. Lots of people work behind to make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper100</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983874</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess she is just saying this because she want more money and think she can get it this way! but i can tell YOU LILY ALLEN YOU WONT GET MORE MONEY YOU EVEN GET LESS!!!!!! because then try-before-you-buy isn&#039;t possible any more and people will choose more times to not buy songs simply because they don&#039;t think its the money worth! 


THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IS LIKE A KITTEN BITING IN HER OWN TAIL!!!!!!


it&#039;s not about money its not about power ITS ABOUT SHARING CULTURE!

share-
it&#039;s faire


Jasper100 someone that is prepared to support the creators of content!!.
btw. Lily Allen you music is great</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess she is just saying this because she want more money and think she can get it this way! but i can tell YOU LILY ALLEN YOU WONT GET MORE MONEY YOU EVEN GET LESS!!!!!! because then try-before-you-buy isn&#8217;t possible any more and people will choose more times to not buy songs simply because they don&#8217;t think its the money worth! </p>
<p>THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IS LIKE A KITTEN BITING IN HER OWN TAIL!!!!!!</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not about money its not about power ITS ABOUT SHARING CULTURE!</p>
<p>share-<br />
it&#8217;s faire</p>
<p>Jasper100 someone that is prepared to support the creators of content!!.<br />
btw. Lily Allen you music is great</p>
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		<title>By: NO1UNO</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983872</link>
		<dc:creator>NO1UNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oct 4, 2006 &quot;She said: &quot;When people around me get scared, saying I&#039;m gonna lose all this if I slag off one more person, I&#039;m like, &#039;Oh f**k off, it doesn&#039;t really matter!&#039;&quot; 

So she doesnt give an rats arse about how people think anyhow,
makes her comments pretty much irelevant on the whole!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oct 4, 2006 &#8220;She said: &#8220;When people around me get scared, saying I&#8217;m gonna lose all this if I slag off one more person, I&#8217;m like, &#8216;Oh f**k off, it doesn&#8217;t really matter!&#8217;&#8221; </p>
<p>So she doesnt give an rats arse about how people think anyhow,<br />
makes her comments pretty much irelevant on the whole!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983870</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The French National Assembly has just okayed a draft law which would see âillegalâ downloaders thrown off the net without any kind of judicial process or proof of wrong-doing, as defined by Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony Music, on the one hand, and Time-Warner, Fox, Disney, Columbia, Paramount and MGM on the other.
And thatâs the way to go, implies Britainâs Lily Allen&quot;

Good stuff! Let Lilly sleep in her own crap as her fans dump her.

Thumbs up to Lilly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The French National Assembly has just okayed a draft law which would see âillegalâ downloaders thrown off the net without any kind of judicial process or proof of wrong-doing, as defined by Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony Music, on the one hand, and Time-Warner, Fox, Disney, Columbia, Paramount and MGM on the other.<br />
And thatâs the way to go, implies Britainâs Lily Allen&#8221;</p>
<p>Good stuff! Let Lilly sleep in her own crap as her fans dump her.</p>
<p>Thumbs up to Lilly.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983869</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Uncle Sam:

That wouldn&#039;t last long.  The other industry leaders would sue the pants of the Big4Labels and these other companies have the money to pay the lawyers to do it!

Lily is off her rocker and completely misguided.  She contradicts herself as those who record off the radio or make mix tapes acquire the songs they want, just like file sharers do.  It is the same!  The volume of songs is irrelevant because the exposure is a lot greater too, we&#039;re talking global reach with filesharing.  You can&#039;t compare taped radio and the filesharing and say &quot;look at the numbers, mix tapes were only 10 songs a month, but sharing files is 10 000 songs a month&quot; because it is the same damn thing, people are sampling!  It&#039;s only a matter now that more are sampling than before!

Lily, if you create excellent work, your fans will spread the word, your filesharing counts will go up, more people will be exposed, you&#039;ll enlarge your fanbase, more people will see you perform, more people will purchase your albums and swag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Uncle Sam:</p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t last long.  The other industry leaders would sue the pants of the Big4Labels and these other companies have the money to pay the lawyers to do it!</p>
<p>Lily is off her rocker and completely misguided.  She contradicts herself as those who record off the radio or make mix tapes acquire the songs they want, just like file sharers do.  It is the same!  The volume of songs is irrelevant because the exposure is a lot greater too, we&#8217;re talking global reach with filesharing.  You can&#8217;t compare taped radio and the filesharing and say &#8220;look at the numbers, mix tapes were only 10 songs a month, but sharing files is 10 000 songs a month&#8221; because it is the same damn thing, people are sampling!  It&#8217;s only a matter now that more are sampling than before!</p>
<p>Lily, if you create excellent work, your fans will spread the word, your filesharing counts will go up, more people will be exposed, you&#8217;ll enlarge your fanbase, more people will see you perform, more people will purchase your albums and swag.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Slam</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983867</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Slam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, because we all know how the perceived losses of the entertainment industry trump the very real losses that will be suffered by the other 99.9999% of businesses out there who make a good portion of their profits from online sales and/or services.

I say we let the governments of the world bring in legislation that kicks users off the internet to appease the entertainment industry. Personally I feel that is probably what it is going to take to finally get all the other businesses of the world off of their collective asses and begin protecting their assets (aka customers).

If the wild abandon the entertainment industry has shown in their zeal for attacking their own customers is any indication, I&#039;m betting users will be kicked off of the internet at a break neck pace. ISP&#039;s will be the first to feel the financial crunch. Just what everyone needs during an economical crisis.

After all of the ISP&#039;s (many of whom derive their income from more than just providing access to the internet, like TV over IP and VoiP for example) comes all the other businesses whom rely on the internet for anywhere from twenty to one hundred percent of their profits. This means all the Amazon&#039;s and Walmart&#039;s of the world, the Microsoft&#039;s and Apple&#039;s, the NCIX&#039;s and Newegg&#039;s, the eBay&#039;s and Craiglists, the Cabela&#039;s and MEC&#039;s, the Blockbuster&#039;s and Netflix&#039;s. The list goes on and on.

There won&#039;t be a single business out there whose bottom line is unaffected. We the citizens, likely in large swaths at a time, will lose our ability to find important educational and medical information, do our banking and pay our bills, buy and play our favorite online games (like World of Warcraft and all the stuff on Xbox Live Arcade for example).

With the direction some countries are going with online voting, disillusioned people who would have been much more likely to vote when it really counts won&#039;t. Imagine how different Canada&#039;s last vote, with it&#039;s horridly low record breaking turnout, would have been with the ability to vote online from the comfort of home!

I can&#039;t even begin to fathom just how many businesses total will be affected by lost profits. There are just way too many to accurately list here. I would hazard a guess that it will be no less than millions of them though. I also have no doubt whatsoever that those lost profits will run into the billions of dollars annually very quickly.

With how hard the entertainment industry is pushing the three strikes approach everywhere, it&#039;s not hard to guess what their approach will be when it finally passes. They will be like kids in a candy store. Mark my words, it&#039;ll be a free for all. No one, business and citizen alike, will be safe from the talons of the entertainment industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, because we all know how the perceived losses of the entertainment industry trump the very real losses that will be suffered by the other 99.9999% of businesses out there who make a good portion of their profits from online sales and/or services.</p>
<p>I say we let the governments of the world bring in legislation that kicks users off the internet to appease the entertainment industry. Personally I feel that is probably what it is going to take to finally get all the other businesses of the world off of their collective asses and begin protecting their assets (aka customers).</p>
<p>If the wild abandon the entertainment industry has shown in their zeal for attacking their own customers is any indication, I&#8217;m betting users will be kicked off of the internet at a break neck pace. ISP&#8217;s will be the first to feel the financial crunch. Just what everyone needs during an economical crisis.</p>
<p>After all of the ISP&#8217;s (many of whom derive their income from more than just providing access to the internet, like TV over IP and VoiP for example) comes all the other businesses whom rely on the internet for anywhere from twenty to one hundred percent of their profits. This means all the Amazon&#8217;s and Walmart&#8217;s of the world, the Microsoft&#8217;s and Apple&#8217;s, the NCIX&#8217;s and Newegg&#8217;s, the eBay&#8217;s and Craiglists, the Cabela&#8217;s and MEC&#8217;s, the Blockbuster&#8217;s and Netflix&#8217;s. The list goes on and on.</p>
<p>There won&#8217;t be a single business out there whose bottom line is unaffected. We the citizens, likely in large swaths at a time, will lose our ability to find important educational and medical information, do our banking and pay our bills, buy and play our favorite online games (like World of Warcraft and all the stuff on Xbox Live Arcade for example).</p>
<p>With the direction some countries are going with online voting, disillusioned people who would have been much more likely to vote when it really counts won&#8217;t. Imagine how different Canada&#8217;s last vote, with it&#8217;s horridly low record breaking turnout, would have been with the ability to vote online from the comfort of home!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even begin to fathom just how many businesses total will be affected by lost profits. There are just way too many to accurately list here. I would hazard a guess that it will be no less than millions of them though. I also have no doubt whatsoever that those lost profits will run into the billions of dollars annually very quickly.</p>
<p>With how hard the entertainment industry is pushing the three strikes approach everywhere, it&#8217;s not hard to guess what their approach will be when it finally passes. They will be like kids in a candy store. Mark my words, it&#8217;ll be a free for all. No one, business and citizen alike, will be safe from the talons of the entertainment industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynix</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983865</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D7sr90999 = TROLL?

You really need that education, my friend! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D7sr90999 = TROLL?</p>
<p>You really need that education, my friend! lol</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28565/comment-page-1#comment-983864</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ D7sr90999

File sharing &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t bad&lt;/i&gt;. 

Suing families as part of the scheme to gain control of online distribution, and then pretending it&#039;s all about reveneue, is.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ D7sr90999</p>
<p>File sharing <i>isn&#8217;t bad</i>. </p>
<p>Suing families as part of the scheme to gain control of online distribution, and then pretending it&#8217;s all about reveneue, is.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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