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	<title>Comments on: Camcording Pirates versus Infra-red</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984518</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The goal is to not drown out the camcorder image sensor, but to make the movie screen so spotty that its no longer âgood enoughâ to camcord anymore.&quot;


The screen in a theater is already not good enought to camecord anymore without the infrared thingy. So what the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The goal is to not drown out the camcorder image sensor, but to make the movie screen so spotty that its no longer âgood enoughâ to camcord anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>The screen in a theater is already not good enought to camecord anymore without the infrared thingy. So what the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984496</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; No problems at allâ¦ thereâs always Screeners from Hollywood insiders. &quot;

 Yup, this.

 An inconvenient fact ignored by all who can do something about it.
 Hollywood WANTS those movies to hit the net, only they want
 to be sure they control when it&#039;s to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; No problems at allâ¦ thereâs always Screeners from Hollywood insiders. &#8221;</p>
<p> Yup, this.</p>
<p> An inconvenient fact ignored by all who can do something about it.<br />
 Hollywood WANTS those movies to hit the net, only they want<br />
 to be sure they control when it&#8217;s to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Scaramouche</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984455</link>
		<dc:creator>Scaramouche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problems at all... there&#039;s always Screeners from Hollywood insiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems at all&#8230; there&#8217;s always Screeners from Hollywood insiders.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984451</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, all the pirates have to do is invent and use cameras that, like the human eye, can&#039;t see infrared rays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, all the pirates have to do is invent and use cameras that, like the human eye, can&#8217;t see infrared rays.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984416</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cams suck and always have. If IR gets rid of cams then I&#039;d say it&#039;s a good thing for everyone, especially if it creates a greater demand for high quality rips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cams suck and always have. If IR gets rid of cams then I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a good thing for everyone, especially if it creates a greater demand for high quality rips.</p>
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		<title>By: FlInt</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984405</link>
		<dc:creator>FlInt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PirateEye watches over cinemas 
http://www.geek.com/articles/news/pirateeye-watches-over-cinemas-20041112/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PirateEye watches over cinemas<br />
<a href="http://www.geek.com/articles/news/pirateeye-watches-over-cinemas-20041112/" rel="nofollow">http://www.geek.com/articles/news/pirateeye-watches-over-cinemas-20041112/</a></p>
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		<title>By: you know who</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984404</link>
		<dc:creator>you know who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a move that could eventually be copied by all discerning billionaires, Abramovich has installed an anti-paparazzi shield on his newest vessel, the worldâs biggest and most expensive private yacht. 

The high-tech system on Eclipse, a mega-yacht measuring up to 557ft, relies on lasers to block any digital camera lenses nearby

Infrared lasers detect the electronic light sensors in nearby cameras, known as charge-coupled devices. When the system detects such a device, it fires a focused beam of light at the camera, disrupting its ability to record a digital image. 

The beams can also be activated manually by security guards if they spot a photographer loitering. 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6841380.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a move that could eventually be copied by all discerning billionaires, Abramovich has installed an anti-paparazzi shield on his newest vessel, the worldâs biggest and most expensive private yacht. </p>
<p>The high-tech system on Eclipse, a mega-yacht measuring up to 557ft, relies on lasers to block any digital camera lenses nearby</p>
<p>Infrared lasers detect the electronic light sensors in nearby cameras, known as charge-coupled devices. When the system detects such a device, it fires a focused beam of light at the camera, disrupting its ability to record a digital image. </p>
<p>The beams can also be activated manually by security guards if they spot a photographer loitering. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6841380.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6841380.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: SteelWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984400</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only good thing about cams is the way they consistently shame the industry when, despite their best attempts, cam versions of every single major release appear online immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only good thing about cams is the way they consistently shame the industry when, despite their best attempts, cam versions of every single major release appear online immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: normal1515</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984397</link>
		<dc:creator>normal1515</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, does anyone even watch cams? How could anyone put up with the poor image quality and sound?
Go ahead and install IR lights. Nobody fucking cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, does anyone even watch cams? How could anyone put up with the poor image quality and sound?<br />
Go ahead and install IR lights. Nobody fucking cares.</p>
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		<title>By: EmuWikiAdmin</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984396</link>
		<dc:creator>EmuWikiAdmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyways good TS are usually available, filmed in great conditions, certainly without the infra red thing turned on, and probably filmed by the actual cinema managers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyways good TS are usually available, filmed in great conditions, certainly without the infra red thing turned on, and probably filmed by the actual cinema managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984394</link>
		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cam copies are indeed a worthless waste of bandwidth and I really wish the scene would stop releasing them.
Of course then it would only be a matter of time before the MPAA goes on to blame something else while still ignoring the source of insider releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cam copies are indeed a worthless waste of bandwidth and I really wish the scene would stop releasing them.<br />
Of course then it would only be a matter of time before the MPAA goes on to blame something else while still ignoring the source of insider releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984391</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds pretty effective. Is there no such thing as a filter that will stop only infrared light?

I am sure there is and the claim that this will make the image more blury than it is already is bogus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds pretty effective. Is there no such thing as a filter that will stop only infrared light?</p>
<p>I am sure there is and the claim that this will make the image more blury than it is already is bogus.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984389</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never believe that anyone really watch movies on a cam. This is a propaganda tool used by the corporation of parasites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never believe that anyone really watch movies on a cam. This is a propaganda tool used by the corporation of parasites.</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IR sources are still visable even when IR filters are used.
The difference is you just end up seeing the area of the light source instead of the light source drowning out the entire image completely.
So this idea would work given enough IR emitters covering the screen.
The goal is to not drown out the camcorder image sensor, but to make the movie screen so spotty that its no longer &quot;good enough&quot; to camcord anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IR sources are still visable even when IR filters are used.<br />
The difference is you just end up seeing the area of the light source instead of the light source drowning out the entire image completely.<br />
So this idea would work given enough IR emitters covering the screen.<br />
The goal is to not drown out the camcorder image sensor, but to make the movie screen so spotty that its no longer &#8220;good enough&#8221; to camcord anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: EmuWikiAdmin</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984379</link>
		<dc:creator>EmuWikiAdmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40$ canadian here :

http://stores.shop.cafr.ebay.ca/infrared-filter-home__W0QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZQQ_sasiZ1

but it won&#039;t block infra-red for your whole body, just the camera so watch out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40$ canadian here :</p>
<p><a href="http://stores.shop.cafr.ebay.ca/infrared-filter-home__W0QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZQQ_sasiZ1" rel="nofollow">http://stores.shop.cafr.ebay.ca/infrared-filter-home__W0QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZQQ_sasiZ1</a></p>
<p>but it won&#8217;t block infra-red for your whole body, just the camera so watch out!</p>
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		<title>By: EmuWikiAdmin</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984377</link>
		<dc:creator>EmuWikiAdmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great these are the light waves produced by an OVEN. We&#039;re being COOKED in the cinema we paid to have access to, there&#039;s no way I&#039;m ever gonna go there again.

Anyways infra-red filters do exist. Usually the oven glasses are actually infra-red filters. The cost is pretty low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great these are the light waves produced by an OVEN. We&#8217;re being COOKED in the cinema we paid to have access to, there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m ever gonna go there again.</p>
<p>Anyways infra-red filters do exist. Usually the oven glasses are actually infra-red filters. The cost is pretty low.</p>
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		<title>By: arti</title>
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		<dc:creator>arti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds pretty effective. Is there no such thing as a filter that will stop only infrared light?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds pretty effective. Is there no such thing as a filter that will stop only infrared light?</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit80</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/28773/comment-page-1#comment-984372</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabbit80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cams are generally too blurry to watch anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cams are generally too blurry to watch anyway&#8230;</p>
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