Actually, if the relevant text is not ignored ( as it always is ), both these acts are
legally exempted for personal, non-profit use. So neither of those acts are illegal.

The entertainment industry would simply like you to ignore the fact.

” Obama eeeevil ..blaaaah blaaah rimita ro ”

Less coffee, more reality.

In the early 80s we made hometapes and nobody gave a crap about quality as we had no cd to compare it to.Taping off a friend is the same as borrowing a cd,copyright says both are illegal for the same reason.

If they truly spent there money on themselves and not developing their business, then the stupid fuckers deserve to go broke.If i behaved like that in business i’d go broke…why shouldn’t they be allowed to suffer the same fate?.LUCKY for them they have the ultimate back up plan,bribe the corrupt U.S government to pass their laws in the name of what’s fair(P.C).The by-product of which is an open door to heavy censorship on the net by anyone with enough money\power.

President Obama will soon have authority (if he doesn’t already)to shut down the net in the event of a national emergency and considering that any demonstration or dissent is now considered an act of low level terrorism in the U.S,that is a very scary thought.

Now after 30 years they have arrested Roman Polanski in Switzerland on the eve of receiving a lifetime achievement award there.Arrested of course at the behest of the U.S government for something that was pretty dispicable yes,but even his victim say leave him alone and let me get on with my life.This happens in a country that has always prided and played on it’s neutrality?!,That’s even more frightning.

With Obama pushing for a one world bank and government, where all their laws are enforced wherever you live on the globe.I’m glad i live in N.Z where there’s a pissy little defence force that don’t have enough serviceman to surround your average department store let alone a pissed off and rioting population.The shits gonna hit the fan soon so WAKE UP as many as you can to pressure the polititions while we still have a voice.

Easy fix to that, Dred:
Anybody up for another “Grey Tuesday?” Can’t make it “vanish” if it’s mirrored everywhere.

That would be fantastic, but the labels will probably use copyright law to get it
pulled.

Isn’t this even a little scary to anyone else ?
A large Corporation waves it’s magic wand and inconvenient truths vanish.

THIS is REAL censorship, and it has nothing to do with deleting abusive posts.

Cheers!

I mean she’s a goddamn heroine. A Joan of Arc…. There is a tear forming in my right eye…..

I can hear the Orchestra music swelling breaking into the hallelujah Lily Chorus.

But it will probably unfortunately be just enough to get the three strikes through the pommie parliament.

Follow up link on the antics of our young Ms Diva…. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8274072.stm

Basically the link tells us that the Musos have DECIDED on what filesharing fair punishments should be. And a couple bravely put their name on the Document to the British Parliament. Although I note that they are all the hasbeens.

We’d love to see the source on that before EMI or Lily pull IT offline too.
Even so, just being young wouldn’t have flown as an excuse for tenenbaum, why
should it for her ?

Any links or evidence of this should be found and preserved before the labels censor it.

As for her being “young” when she did the mixtapes, I believe she said 5 years ago?… not quite. The first one she announce on 01/19/06.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=36707169&blogId=79088703

The second on 03/17/06.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=36707169&blogId=99040517

Here she first discovers her music on Limewire and gives everyone her blessing to download it. (Hmmm… seems to me you would need to have Limewire installed to find it there.)

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=36707169&blogId=103287336

And here she gets into a rather lengthy thing about government intrusion by forcing everyone to have a national I.D. card and the ability it will have to trace your every move… kinda like what she’s pushing for now, having government force ISP’s to track your every online move. The hypocrisy never ends with this girl.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=36707169&blogId=97788169

I did see the tracklists on techdirt I think, not 100% sure though. But if I remeber rigth all artists weren’t EMI signed.

I’ll await seeing what other artists tracks were on the mixtapes – however if any of them werent EMI signed artists.. Well then it’s not poor old Lily doing the pirating – it’s EMI aiding and abetting her in a major Piracy action…… .

I did post a minute ago an ED2K for the first mixtape but as it has a couple of [Links] it needs the Jon editorial eye once over……

File Name , Size ,Availability (… ,Compl… , ,Type ,File ID ,Length , Bitrate ,Codec ,Known

Lily Allen – MyFirstMixtape.mp3 ,68.94 MB , 1 (2) , ,? ,Audio ,808CA942B491765CE53A22DD4C04B70F , 50:12 ,192 k… , ,

Not that I would ever condone illegal file sharing – but gee, I guess if she placed it in the public domain AND it had EMI permission to be there – it must be OK to download.

I still think the whole thingis a huge publicity stunt…..

One of the Pagers I “undeleted” listed her concerts……

( view all )
Oct 22 2009 8:00P Zenith Paris, France
Oct 23 2009 8:00P Lotto Arena Antwerp
Oct 25 2009 8:00P Heineken Music Hall Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Oct 28 2009 8:00P Alcatraz Milan, Italy
Oct 29 2009 8:00P Theaterfabrik Munich, Germany
Oct 30 2009 8:00P Club Sasazu Prague, Czech Republic

etc etc etc. And would you believe – while I was sitting there – Looking at the cache file – it changed to include a pop-up add from Amazon for her new Album…….. Amazin’ aint it……

Sorry for being so cynical all… Not like me at all really.

I read on torrent freak that lilly will end her music career. Is this true? I hope so. Talk about talentless!

1. She’s completely ignorant about the issues surrounding p2p, yet feels compelled to attempt to become the corporate media’s poster-girl for the ‘victims’ of p2p.

2. At the same time, she’s too fucking stupid to understand that her ‘mixtapes’ violated the same all-precious copyright PRIVILEGES about which she was bleating.

3. She’s too chickenshit to actually deal with the (inevitable) shitstorm, and triest to retcon the whole thing by deleting the entire blog when the “abuse” got too much.

Funny, but if I remember it right, Lily threw the first punch, and she *also* claimed to not give a rats ass (arse?) what anybody thought about what she said.

On the bright side, nobody will EVER take her stupid ass seriously, ever again.

THIS is why I *hate* celebrities.

who the hell is lily allen, anyway? never heard of her until now.

and who is lars?

retarded lily’s abuse to her equally retarded fans – documented!

lily said:

September 14, 2009
“go and buy it from your local shop. if you don’t like it take it back.”

(yeah, right. like that’ll ever happen if it’s been opened and you have no receipt. twat.)

September 15, 2009:
“my album is one of the biggest selling british albums of the year and that has fuck all to do with my dad. stop feeling sorry for yourself and bitter and try being pro active.”

(what a cu-nt.)

September 14, 2009
“i don’t get paid for photo shoots bozo. i’ve never got paid to get my tits out. except at school, but thats different.”

(no, now she just does it for drugs.)

(dumb biyatch)

The internet NEVER forgets.

Ask lars.

In the old days, that was the ONLY way to ever be heard by anyone outside your hometown.

The internet changed that.

That’s the REAL reason they sue P2P sites and developers, and then buy them out.
It’s not that they really are losing anything because of P2P, but the fact that people
they don’t own and control can be seen and heard right beside the label offerings
is terrifying.

Competition sucks.

Many of us who have ‘been there, done that’ are here, and have said this very thing.
The ‘artist’ pays for everything.
The engineer, the studio, the producer, the marketing etc …

Creative accounting by the labels ensure that the ‘artist’ never is able to get out of debt, and thus is forever
tied to the label. The label ALSO holds the copyrights to the music, thus the ‘Rightsholders’ the RIAA scream
about are there LABELS, not the artists. The contract insures that the only one who ever profits from recorded
RIAA member music are the label execs .. not the artist.

An example of creative accounting used …..

the label execs use a studio and engineer who they have a good cheap contract with.
The ‘artist’ gets ‘charged’ triple the fee that the label actually had to pay for the studio time
and production. This pushes the ‘artist’ even further into debt with the label.
They have many such agreements with engineers, studios, marketers, and such, and
the ALWAYS charge the ‘artist’ at least triple what was actually paid for.

It’s a real nice money making machine, for label execs and shareholders, that is.

There was a real nice thorough breakdown that someone posted a while back on how
the money got distributed … I wonder if Jon has the time if he could locate and repost that
as a refresher on how the labels REALLY work.

It’s a little old but while the dollar amounts are different, the methodology is still the same.