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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984975</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catflap:

   &quot; think you should have addressed that diatribe to me, as it was my recording i had uploaded, and much much later removed. dredd has/had absolutely nada to do with it.&quot;

    Misattribution acknowledge and -- humbly -- apologized for. :)

&quot;i gave my reasons why i removed it. i donât apologise and i donât have to explain myself to you or anyone else.&quot;

   Ummm:

   1. Just what exactly do you think you have to &quot;apologize&quot; for, exactly?  You gave your &quot;reasons&quot; (which, to my way of thinking, sorta kinda seems like &quot;explaining yourself&quot;, BTW), and I disagreed with them.  Your (bad) choice.  If you want to allow an irrelevant and unenforceable TOS policy -- that everybody else and their cousin routinely violates without a second thought -- stand in the way of your video getting to what&#039;s probably the largest potential viewer-base out there, then that&#039;s fine by me.

   I just question the thought process of somebody who (rightly) advocates mass civil disobedience in the form of p2p/filesharing, but can&#039;t bring him/herself to break Youtube&#039;s (already meaningless) TOS policy, to get the word out.

   The only thing I *would* think you&#039;d need to &quot;apologize&quot; for, is failing to take the opportunity to get the video seen as widely as possible, irrespective of the policy quirks of any particular host.

   &quot;you can download the video from either of the two links above. then upload it to your own photobucket account and use the embed or url links to post it wherever you want.&quot;

or use the links provided on the video page. but i suggest doing the former in case i or anyone else decides to ever remove them.&quot;


   Tell me, &#039;Flap: does your dislike of Youtube policy mean that you&#039;d complain if somebody had a google blog that linked to your video?
   
   I stand by my &quot;rant&quot; as you call it, because the points I raised remain valid.

  Bye now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catflap:</p>
<p>   &#8221; think you should have addressed that diatribe to me, as it was my recording i had uploaded, and much much later removed. dredd has/had absolutely nada to do with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>    Misattribution acknowledge and &#8212; humbly &#8212; apologized for. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;i gave my reasons why i removed it. i donât apologise and i donât have to explain myself to you or anyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Ummm:</p>
<p>   1. Just what exactly do you think you have to &#8220;apologize&#8221; for, exactly?  You gave your &#8220;reasons&#8221; (which, to my way of thinking, sorta kinda seems like &#8220;explaining yourself&#8221;, BTW), and I disagreed with them.  Your (bad) choice.  If you want to allow an irrelevant and unenforceable TOS policy &#8212; that everybody else and their cousin routinely violates without a second thought &#8212; stand in the way of your video getting to what&#8217;s probably the largest potential viewer-base out there, then that&#8217;s fine by me.</p>
<p>   I just question the thought process of somebody who (rightly) advocates mass civil disobedience in the form of p2p/filesharing, but can&#8217;t bring him/herself to break Youtube&#8217;s (already meaningless) TOS policy, to get the word out.</p>
<p>   The only thing I *would* think you&#8217;d need to &#8220;apologize&#8221; for, is failing to take the opportunity to get the video seen as widely as possible, irrespective of the policy quirks of any particular host.</p>
<p>   &#8220;you can download the video from either of the two links above. then upload it to your own photobucket account and use the embed or url links to post it wherever you want.&#8221;</p>
<p>or use the links provided on the video page. but i suggest doing the former in case i or anyone else decides to ever remove them.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Tell me, &#8216;Flap: does your dislike of Youtube policy mean that you&#8217;d complain if somebody had a google blog that linked to your video?</p>
<p>   I stand by my &#8220;rant&#8221; as you call it, because the points I raised remain valid.</p>
<p>  Bye now <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984945</link>
		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can download the video from either of the two links above. then upload it to your own photobucket account and use the embed or url links to post it wherever you want.

or use the links provided on the video page. but i suggest doing the former in case i or anyone else decides to ever remove them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can download the video from either of the two links above. then upload it to your own photobucket account and use the embed or url links to post it wherever you want.</p>
<p>or use the links provided on the video page. but i suggest doing the former in case i or anyone else decides to ever remove them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense taken here Catflap.

My only suggestion is that someone who is capable create a site just for the purpose of hosting
the endless contradictory statements of the Label mouthpieces, side by side.
It would not only be really informative, but the unintentional &#039;funny&#039; would be fantastic.

I have no talent for such a venture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense taken here Catflap.</p>
<p>My only suggestion is that someone who is capable create a site just for the purpose of hosting<br />
the endless contradictory statements of the Label mouthpieces, side by side.<br />
It would not only be really informative, but the unintentional &#8216;funny&#8217; would be fantastic.</p>
<p>I have no talent for such a venture.</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984934</link>
		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@henry:

i think you should have addressed that diatribe to me, as it was my recording i had uploaded, and much much later removed. dredd has/had absolutely nada to do with it.

i gave my reasons why i removed it. i don&#039;t apologise and i don&#039;t have to explain myself to you or anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@henry:</p>
<p>i think you should have addressed that diatribe to me, as it was my recording i had uploaded, and much much later removed. dredd has/had absolutely nada to do with it.</p>
<p>i gave my reasons why i removed it. i don&#8217;t apologise and i don&#8217;t have to explain myself to you or anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dredd:

   1. Youtube&#039;s &quot;policy&quot; is totally irrelevant, given the undeniable fact that people who get suspended start new accounts within minutes, re-upload all their videos, and go on about their lives.
   2. Every cycle of RIAA-inspired &quot;takedowns&quot; results in the videos being back up in a few hours.

   In fact, to my way of thinking, you SHOULD use something like Youtube (even -- or especially) of the policies piss you off/they tend to cave in to corporate lobbyists.  Just don&#039;t obey the onerous policy.  Enough people disobeying EN MASSE, and the policy is, de facto, repealed even if it remains on the books.

    Same with the p2p thing.  THEY inflate a 7 year privilege into a 140-year one (75 years past &quot;rights-holder&#039;s&quot; death), everybody ELSE refuses to obey the privilege for that long, privilege is DE FACTO gone, even if the corporate pinheads and their lackeys in government don&#039;t understand that yet.

   So you SHOULD have uploaded the video to Youtube, as a matter of principle: a big, exuberant &quot;fuck you&quot; to the RIAA lobbyists, their corporate paymasters, AND Youtube&#039;s parent company Google, for being bellycrawling, submissive little RIAA bitches with all their &quot;takedown&quot; shit.

   On a less &quot;polemical&quot; note, anything really critical should be &#039;mirrored&#039; to as many different sites as practical, with multiple links provided, PREFERABLY on servers in multiple jurisdictions.  That way, repressive bullshit from ONE jurisdiction (RIAA takedowns) has a harder time impacting any of the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dredd:</p>
<p>   1. Youtube&#8217;s &#8220;policy&#8221; is totally irrelevant, given the undeniable fact that people who get suspended start new accounts within minutes, re-upload all their videos, and go on about their lives.<br />
   2. Every cycle of RIAA-inspired &#8220;takedowns&#8221; results in the videos being back up in a few hours.</p>
<p>   In fact, to my way of thinking, you SHOULD use something like Youtube (even &#8212; or especially) of the policies piss you off/they tend to cave in to corporate lobbyists.  Just don&#8217;t obey the onerous policy.  Enough people disobeying EN MASSE, and the policy is, de facto, repealed even if it remains on the books.</p>
<p>    Same with the p2p thing.  THEY inflate a 7 year privilege into a 140-year one (75 years past &#8220;rights-holder&#8217;s&#8221; death), everybody ELSE refuses to obey the privilege for that long, privilege is DE FACTO gone, even if the corporate pinheads and their lackeys in government don&#8217;t understand that yet.</p>
<p>   So you SHOULD have uploaded the video to Youtube, as a matter of principle: a big, exuberant &#8220;fuck you&#8221; to the RIAA lobbyists, their corporate paymasters, AND Youtube&#8217;s parent company Google, for being bellycrawling, submissive little RIAA bitches with all their &#8220;takedown&#8221; shit.</p>
<p>   On a less &#8220;polemical&#8221; note, anything really critical should be &#8216;mirrored&#8217; to as many different sites as practical, with multiple links provided, PREFERABLY on servers in multiple jurisdictions.  That way, repressive bullshit from ONE jurisdiction (RIAA takedowns) has a harder time impacting any of the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Just this Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984918</link>
		<dc:creator>Just this Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting mix video would be snippets of music / movie people contradicting them selves. So person X claims they are loosing money then ideally the same person or someone from the same company says they are making money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting mix video would be snippets of music / movie people contradicting them selves. So person X claims they are loosing money then ideally the same person or someone from the same company says they are making money.</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984912</link>
		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xamz8g_bpi-admits-cd-sales-booming_news</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xamz8g_bpi-admits-cd-sales-booming_news" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xamz8g_bpi-admits-cd-sales-booming_news</a></p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984897</link>
		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3462023/bpi_admits_cd_sales_booming/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3462023/bpi_admits_cd_sales_booming/" rel="nofollow">http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3462023/bpi_admits_cd_sales_booming/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Irate Pirate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984881</link>
		<dc:creator>Irate Pirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It needs to reach as many eyes as possible.&quot;

I concur with Dreddsnik. Personally I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever actually seen that video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It needs to reach as many eyes as possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>I concur with Dreddsnik. Personally I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever actually seen that video.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29021/comment-page-1#comment-984859</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; i deleted the video some time ago because i fucking hate gootube, itâs inconsistencies in policy, and what itâs become â a political tool.

if i want to post a video, there are several other non-tools available. &quot;


 All of this stuff that has the RIAA contradicting itself on every issue needs a permanent home,
 So the curious can easily see just how much the labels and their lapdogs lie. Otherwise
 it just vanishes and no one gets to see it. 
 It needs to reach as many eyes as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; i deleted the video some time ago because i fucking hate gootube, itâs inconsistencies in policy, and what itâs become â a political tool.</p>
<p>if i want to post a video, there are several other non-tools available. &#8221;</p>
<p> All of this stuff that has the RIAA contradicting itself on every issue needs a permanent home,<br />
 So the curious can easily see just how much the labels and their lapdogs lie. Otherwise<br />
 it just vanishes and no one gets to see it.<br />
 It needs to reach as many eyes as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
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		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as it shows, the video was removed by the user - that&#039;s me.

i deleted the video some time ago because i fucking hate gootube, it&#039;s inconsistencies in policy, and what it&#039;s become - a political tool.

if i want to post a video, there are several other non-tools available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as it shows, the video was removed by the user &#8211; that&#8217;s me.</p>
<p>i deleted the video some time ago because i fucking hate gootube, it&#8217;s inconsistencies in policy, and what it&#8217;s become &#8211; a political tool.</p>
<p>if i want to post a video, there are several other non-tools available.</p>
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		<title>By: KKK</title>
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		<dc:creator>KKK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, people stealing music is almost as bad as having more than one kind of people in the world. It must be stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, people stealing music is almost as bad as having more than one kind of people in the world. It must be stopped.</p>
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