Comments on: 4 new Do Not Call List violators named http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Devil's Advocate http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142/comment-page-1#comment-985457 Devil's Advocate Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:50:52 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=29142#comment-985457 "...broadcast media that is critical of the CRTC will have a hard time when their broadcast license comes up for renewal..." You could also view that as "more fuel for the fire". “…broadcast media that is critical of the CRTC will have a hard time when their broadcast license comes up for renewal…”

You could also view that as “more fuel for the fire”.

]]> By: Typical Eh http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142/comment-page-1#comment-985404 Typical Eh Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:32:04 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=29142#comment-985404 Nothing will come of the petition unless it becomes an election issue. Even then it's a long shot. The CRTC has made it abundantly clear that broadcast media that is critical of the CRTC will have a hard time when their broadcast license comes up for renewal, so don't look for any further coverage from CBC. Their wrist has already been slapped severely for letting this get any coverage. There is a revolving door between the regulator and the industry it is supposed to regulate. Add to that the ideological "no regulation is good regulation" position of Harper, Rumsfeld, Cheney et al, and you have a recipe for disaster just like the unregulated banking system in the USA. Then it gets worse when the CRTC and telcos control all the major media outlets. If you think Canada is a country with free speech and a free media then think again. Nothing will come of the petition unless it becomes an election issue. Even then it’s a long shot. The CRTC has made it abundantly clear that broadcast media that is critical of the CRTC will have a hard time when their broadcast license comes up for renewal, so don’t look for any further coverage from CBC. Their wrist has already been slapped severely for letting this get any coverage. There is a revolving door between the regulator and the industry it is supposed to regulate. Add to that the ideological “no regulation is good regulation” position of Harper, Rumsfeld, Cheney et al, and you have a recipe for disaster just like the unregulated banking system in the USA. Then it gets worse when the CRTC and telcos control all the major media outlets. If you think Canada is a country with free speech and a free media then think again.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142/comment-page-1#comment-985399 Reader's Write Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:16:40 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=29142#comment-985399 It's been stagnant for a couple of weeks now barely picking up anything at all. It’s been stagnant for a couple of weeks now barely picking up anything at all.

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142/comment-page-1#comment-985398 Devil's Advocate Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:52:36 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=29142#comment-985398 The petition's been accumulating signatures very slowly since it hit around 4,500 names, but it's actually managed to reach 8,163 at this point! I wonder if it'll get to 10,000, and if so, if anything constructive would actually happen because of that. The petition’s been accumulating signatures very slowly since it hit around 4,500 names, but it’s actually managed to reach 8,163 at this point!

I wonder if it’ll get to 10,000, and if so, if anything constructive would actually happen because of that.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142/comment-page-1#comment-985380 Reader's Write Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:45:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=29142#comment-985380 “…it is possible that you are unaware of just how much of a mockery the CRTC itself is.” We are all aware now. This is why Jon invited everyone to sign the petition at http://www.dissolvethecrts.ca/ “…it is possible that you are unaware of just how much of a mockery the CRTC itself is.”

We are all aware now.

This is why Jon invited everyone to sign the petition at http://www.dissolvethecrts.ca/

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142/comment-page-1#comment-985358 Devil's Advocate Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:43:40 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=29142#comment-985358 "...it is possible that you are unaware of just how much of a mockery the CRTC itself is." You're preachin' to the choir here! :) “…it is possible that you are unaware of just how much of a mockery the CRTC itself is.”

You’re preachin’ to the choir here!
:)

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/29142/comment-page-1#comment-985350 Reader's Write Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:47:41 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=29142#comment-985350 The following is a re-post from previous P2PNet story - apologies if anyone considers these multiple posts to be spam, but on the brighter side, at least it didn't wake you up when you're working nights, and didn't interrupt your family during dinner. It is our opinion that Canadians need to understand how the DNCL mess came about, and the CRTC has put a gag order on traditional broadcast media, so we will continue posting this information in forums like this----- You are right – the DNCL result is indeed a mockery, but it is possible that you are unaware of just how much of a mockery the CRTC itself is. The entire DNCL process was marred by CRTC suppression of evidence, violations of their own Rules of Procedure, gag orders on the broadcast media (under threat of losing their broadcast licenses), and even hate crimes against Canadians – all committed by the CRTC in their haste to silence public criticism and put corporate interests ahead of the public good. You can read some of the sordid history here: http://home.cogeco.ca/~publicnotice/CanadaDNCL.html complete with audio clip evidence of the CRTC’s suppression of expert testimony from other countries, and the CRTC referring, on the public record, to anyone who objects to telemarketing as a “terrorist”. Disgusting. The DNCL could have been inexpensive and effective. Instead we are saddled with a wastefully expensive system which indiscriminately distributes our confidential telephone numbers to foreign telemarketing scumbags, and burdens small Canadian businesses with unnecessary costs – all intended to drive them into the arms of the large contract telemarketing interests. In this last respect it is identical to the Gun Registry. It punishes only those who abide by the law. Meanwhile, the telcos hire ex-CRTC Commissioners on a regular basis – there was, in fact, one such hiring during the DNCL proceedings. The telcos that provide CRTC Commissioners with their next carreer then demonstrably receive favoured treatment. Disgusting. # Reader's Write Says: October 1st, 2009 at 10:33 am Here’s a direct link to evidence of the CRTC coverup: http://home.cogeco.ca/~publicnotice/files/Exhibit2.wma This was recorded during a working session of the CRTC DNCL Operations Working Group, and is typical of the kind of coverup that is still going on. The CRTC was told on multiple occasions that their downloadable DNCL would be a disaster, but they chose to break the law and cover up the evidence instead of building a simple system that works, using readily available technologies and database techniques. Canada used to be a leader in telecommunications. We are now a worldwide joke because our government bureaucrats are spineless, greedy, self-serving lawbreakers. The following is a re-post from previous P2PNet story – apologies if anyone considers these multiple posts to be spam, but on the brighter side, at least it didn’t wake you up when you’re working nights, and didn’t interrupt your family during dinner. It is our opinion that Canadians need to understand how the DNCL mess came about, and the CRTC has put a gag order on traditional broadcast media, so we will continue posting this information in forums like this—–

You are right – the DNCL result is indeed a mockery, but it is possible that you are unaware of just how much of a mockery the CRTC itself is. The entire DNCL process was marred by CRTC suppression of evidence, violations of their own Rules of Procedure, gag orders on the broadcast media (under threat of losing their broadcast licenses), and even hate crimes against Canadians – all committed by the CRTC in their haste to silence public criticism and put corporate interests ahead of the public good. You can read some of the sordid history here: http://home.cogeco.ca/~publicnotice/CanadaDNCL.html complete with audio clip evidence of the CRTC’s suppression of expert testimony from other countries, and the CRTC referring, on the public record, to anyone who objects to telemarketing as a “terrorist”. Disgusting.

The DNCL could have been inexpensive and effective. Instead we are saddled with a wastefully expensive system which indiscriminately distributes our confidential telephone numbers to foreign telemarketing scumbags, and burdens small Canadian businesses with unnecessary costs – all intended to drive them into the arms of the large contract telemarketing interests. In this last respect it is identical to the Gun Registry. It punishes only those who abide by the law. Meanwhile, the telcos hire ex-CRTC Commissioners on a regular basis – there was, in fact, one such hiring during the DNCL proceedings. The telcos that provide CRTC Commissioners with their next carreer then demonstrably receive favoured treatment. Disgusting.

# Reader’s Write Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:33 am

Here’s a direct link to evidence of the CRTC coverup: http://home.cogeco.ca/~publicnotice/files/Exhibit2.wma
This was recorded during a working session of the CRTC DNCL Operations Working Group, and is typical of the kind of coverup that is still going on. The CRTC was told on multiple occasions that their downloadable DNCL would be a disaster, but they chose to break the law and cover up the evidence instead of building a simple system that works, using readily available technologies and database techniques. Canada used to be a leader in telecommunications. We are now a worldwide joke because our government bureaucrats are spineless, greedy, self-serving lawbreakers.

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