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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2936/comment-page-1#comment-6884</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 00:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have several,  

http://canfli.org they are the law clinic that was one of the interveners in the CRIA case in the spring and have documented the CRIA case on their site.

http://digital-copyright.ca is another. 

http://www.cippic.ca/  the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (another intervener in the CRIA case in the spring).

Also Michael Geist, a very vocal lawyer/professor  http://www.michaelgeist.ca/ (not sure if he is getting personally involved or he is playing &#039;devils advocate&#039; in the media but he makes very good points about the recommendations and the problems with the consultation process so far) 

We also have our own electronic frontier foundation (but i don&#039;t think their mandate is quite the same): http://www.efc.ca/ (also an intervener in the CRIA case)

Get ready for quite the battle the new CRIA president is a music industry lawyer (worked for one of the big four and claims he understands artists cause he is married to one ... pfft) and he&#039;s already been very vocal on new technology that may be coming to Canada. 

My 2 cents, think rather than scatter resources even more need to band together with what has already been started by others and start prodding a few canucks into action, find out what is needed, how to get people inspired into action. 

(btw been trying to get people inspired for quite awhile now - can you tell?) 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have several,  </p>
<p><a href="http://canfli.org" rel="nofollow">http://canfli.org</a> they are the law clinic that was one of the interveners in the CRIA case in the spring and have documented the CRIA case on their site.</p>
<p><a href="http://digital-copyright.ca" rel="nofollow">http://digital-copyright.ca</a> is another. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cippic.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cippic.ca/</a>  the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (another intervener in the CRIA case in the spring).</p>
<p>Also Michael Geist, a very vocal lawyer/professor  <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelgeist.ca/</a> (not sure if he is getting personally involved or he is playing &#8216;devils advocate&#8217; in the media but he makes very good points about the recommendations and the problems with the consultation process so far) </p>
<p>We also have our own electronic frontier foundation (but i don&#8217;t think their mandate is quite the same): <a href="http://www.efc.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.efc.ca/</a> (also an intervener in the CRIA case)</p>
<p>Get ready for quite the battle the new CRIA president is a music industry lawyer (worked for one of the big four and claims he understands artists cause he is married to one &#8230; pfft) and he&#8217;s already been very vocal on new technology that may be coming to Canada. </p>
<p>My 2 cents, think rather than scatter resources even more need to band together with what has already been started by others and start prodding a few canucks into action, find out what is needed, how to get people inspired into action. </p>
<p>(btw been trying to get people inspired for quite awhile now &#8211; can you tell?) </p>
<p><a href="mailto:sacredcows@gmail.com">sacredcows@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2936/comment-page-1#comment-6878</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t have the time to put this together, but I&#039;d gladly host (and contribute to) such a site if others are willing to build it and keep it current.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t have the time to put this together, but I&#8217;d gladly host (and contribute to) such a site if others are willing to build it and keep it current.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2936/comment-page-1#comment-6876</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...vigilant...I say we mobilize now, awhile ago I suggested Jon post a link to MPs etc email/contact info, and he graciously did.  We need to maintain some sort of site/portal much like they have in the states (EFF etc.) before the fact, so that BOTH sides of the story are heard and considered by the citizens/ploiticians of this country before disasterous changes are made to our way of life and not in hindsight like the US.

I would be happy to host and design such a site/portal, but my time and knowledge of relevant material is limited.  A domain?  Perhaps a subdomain of p2pnet which could redirect to my servers if Jon doesn&#039;t have the hosting capabilities, I&#039;m just throwing out ideas but it&#039;s better we start now rather than later.

I can be contacted at cs-storage@rogers.com and I am open to any suggestions/ideas, contributions or direction.  I&#039;m actually employed in the creative industry so I am certainly not biased against it...just mindful of the rights we enjoy.

TT

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;vigilant&#8230;I say we mobilize now, awhile ago I suggested Jon post a link to MPs etc email/contact info, and he graciously did.  We need to maintain some sort of site/portal much like they have in the states (EFF etc.) before the fact, so that BOTH sides of the story are heard and considered by the citizens/ploiticians of this country before disasterous changes are made to our way of life and not in hindsight like the US.</p>
<p>I would be happy to host and design such a site/portal, but my time and knowledge of relevant material is limited.  A domain?  Perhaps a subdomain of p2pnet which could redirect to my servers if Jon doesn&#8217;t have the hosting capabilities, I&#8217;m just throwing out ideas but it&#8217;s better we start now rather than later.</p>
<p>I can be contacted at <a href="mailto:cs-storage@rogers.com">cs-storage@rogers.com</a> and I am open to any suggestions/ideas, contributions or direction.  I&#8217;m actually employed in the creative industry so I am certainly not biased against it&#8230;just mindful of the rights we enjoy.</p>
<p>TT</p>
<p><a href="mailto:cs-storage@rogers.com">cs-storage@rogers.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2936/comment-page-1#comment-6875</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is being missed that is equally important as the p2p portion of the proposed changes on fair use is S-9 which will effectively shift the rights of a consumer over to the photographer. Under our current system if you hire a photographer you own the rights to the pictures s/he takes. The proposed changes shift the rights to the photographer. If this becomes law your wedding photos can be turned into &#039;stock photos&#039; to be used in commerical ventures. It will also force the consumer to get permission from the photographer to use their own pictures! It is currently being fast tracked through the Senate with barely anyone noticing. 

There are also some major issues regarding libraries and educational institutions. One of which will effectively add special royalties where none existed before. An example (as I understand what I have been reading recently) is it will set up a system whereby an author who wrote a book who doesn&#039;t explicitly say &#039;this work is royalty free&#039; and is a work that is publicly available (ie: non password protected website) can have royalties attached to it. It is tantamount to applying a fee to every single user who reads a publicly accessable site. Authors already have implied rights without having to state them catagorically - no need to muddy the waters further and do we really need to add more fees? 

And there is so so much more: digital-copyright.ca has a very good over view of the latest recommendations made by the Heritage Ministry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is being missed that is equally important as the p2p portion of the proposed changes on fair use is S-9 which will effectively shift the rights of a consumer over to the photographer. Under our current system if you hire a photographer you own the rights to the pictures s/he takes. The proposed changes shift the rights to the photographer. If this becomes law your wedding photos can be turned into &#8217;stock photos&#8217; to be used in commerical ventures. It will also force the consumer to get permission from the photographer to use their own pictures! It is currently being fast tracked through the Senate with barely anyone noticing. </p>
<p>There are also some major issues regarding libraries and educational institutions. One of which will effectively add special royalties where none existed before. An example (as I understand what I have been reading recently) is it will set up a system whereby an author who wrote a book who doesn&#8217;t explicitly say &#8216;this work is royalty free&#8217; and is a work that is publicly available (ie: non password protected website) can have royalties attached to it. It is tantamount to applying a fee to every single user who reads a publicly accessable site. Authors already have implied rights without having to state them catagorically &#8211; no need to muddy the waters further and do we really need to add more fees? </p>
<p>And there is so so much more: digital-copyright.ca has a very good over view of the latest recommendations made by the Heritage Ministry.</p>
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