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	<title>Comments on: Warrantless access to ISP user data</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anon
Any Bell wholesaler is bound by Bell&#039;s AUP and what you read in the story above. It&#039;s even filed with the CRTC and your Bell wholesalers likely references this.

In addition, all the wholesalers have AUP and policies on their website, one need not bother them, but rather you can read it yourself.

If you are with a Bell wholesaler and they don&#039;t have Bell&#039;s AUP word for word as a policy, then that Bell wholesaler is hiding the truth.

End of story on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anon<br />
Any Bell wholesaler is bound by Bell&#8217;s AUP and what you read in the story above. It&#8217;s even filed with the CRTC and your Bell wholesalers likely references this.</p>
<p>In addition, all the wholesalers have AUP and policies on their website, one need not bother them, but rather you can read it yourself.</p>
<p>If you are with a Bell wholesaler and they don&#8217;t have Bell&#8217;s AUP word for word as a policy, then that Bell wholesaler is hiding the truth.</p>
<p>End of story on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way we do this is by writing our ISPs directly, and demanding to know what their policies are with respect to disclosing information ot police.  Then we post the responses. Despite there being some vague reference hidden deep in a contract somewhere, the reality is no one knows this is going on.  And it&#039;s not all ISPs ... but no one really knows which ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way we do this is by writing our ISPs directly, and demanding to know what their policies are with respect to disclosing information ot police.  Then we post the responses. Despite there being some vague reference hidden deep in a contract somewhere, the reality is no one knows this is going on.  And it&#8217;s not all ISPs &#8230; but no one really knows which ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert
TekSavvy uses the exact and VERY SAME AUP as Bell.

Also, in the recnet UBB filing, Bell filed this AUP with the CRTC this week.

Bell forces this AUP upon TekSavvy and all of its&#039; wholesalers.

So umm.... you were saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert<br />
TekSavvy uses the exact and VERY SAME AUP as Bell.</p>
<p>Also, in the recnet UBB filing, Bell filed this AUP with the CRTC this week.</p>
<p>Bell forces this AUP upon TekSavvy and all of its&#8217; wholesalers.</p>
<p>So umm&#8230;. you were saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I&#039;m on TekSavvy, at least they don&#039;t roll over easily.

Now, how do we get the masses paranoid about this so they&#039;ll do something about it and Bell/Telus/Rogers/Shaw will change their minds?

How do we get them to perform a mass exodus from Bell/Telus/Rogers/Shaw provided internet services to the remaining 4% market share providers?

Sheep only act when scared, so how do we do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m on TekSavvy, at least they don&#8217;t roll over easily.</p>
<p>Now, how do we get the masses paranoid about this so they&#8217;ll do something about it and Bell/Telus/Rogers/Shaw will change their minds?</p>
<p>How do we get them to perform a mass exodus from Bell/Telus/Rogers/Shaw provided internet services to the remaining 4% market share providers?</p>
<p>Sheep only act when scared, so how do we do it?</p>
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