Comments on: p2pnet World Headlines: Oct 27, 2009 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/30355 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eric http://www.p2pnet.net/story/30355/comment-page-1#comment-988020 Eric Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:59:10 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=30355#comment-988020 Does the "process" of making music mentioned include all the sponging off of funds to go into executive pockets? Does it include all the times a great song is passed on in favor of a mediocre one for a single? Or perhaps it refers to all the times the band is kept from designing their own albums, and the band ends up having to pay a "professional" they don't even want. And the song invention process would be interesting to read about... all that stealing songs from unsigned legitimate bands then giving them to no-talent signed hacks... The vocal alteration process... the Photoshopping "good looks" onto singers process... the price markup process... Does the “process” of making music mentioned include all the sponging off of funds to go into executive pockets?

Does it include all the times a great song is passed on in favor of a mediocre one for a single?

Or perhaps it refers to all the times the band is kept from designing their own albums, and the band ends up having to pay a “professional” they don’t even want.

And the song invention process would be interesting to read about… all that stealing songs from unsigned legitimate bands then giving them to no-talent signed hacks…

The vocal alteration process… the Photoshopping “good looks” onto singers process… the price markup process…

]]> By: Justin Olbrantz (Quantam) http://www.p2pnet.net/story/30355/comment-page-1#comment-988009 Justin Olbrantz (Quantam) Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:51:43 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=30355#comment-988009 "Instead of cutting people off the internet, I'd much rather they sent the worst offenders into studios for a week to do community service to understand exactly what goes into the process of making music." That's actually a neat idea. I like that. “Instead of cutting people off the internet, I’d much rather they sent the worst offenders into studios for a week to do community service to understand exactly what goes into the process of making music.”

That’s actually a neat idea. I like that.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/30355/comment-page-1#comment-988006 Reader's Write Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:55:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=30355#comment-988006 China accuses Google of 'malicious' censorship http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/27/china_peoples_daily_google_censorship_accusation/ People's Daily said its online book section was blocked from Google searches via a malware warning for three days beginning last Wednesday. It insists the blockage was "malicious revenge" for the book section prominently featuring stories about how Google's rather dubious practice of scanning books without permission might violate the rights of Chinese authors. Will they sue? Maybe Mcaffee is behind it? ;) China accuses Google of ‘malicious’ censorship
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/27/china_peoples_daily_google_censorship_accusation/
People’s Daily said its online book section was blocked from Google searches via a malware warning for three days beginning last Wednesday. It insists the blockage was “malicious revenge” for the book section prominently featuring stories about how Google’s rather dubious practice of scanning books without permission might violate the rights of Chinese authors.

Will they sue? Maybe Mcaffee is behind it? ;)

]]> By: More info http://www.p2pnet.net/story/30355/comment-page-1#comment-988000 More info Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:02:22 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=30355#comment-988000 More on the French Branch of Scientology Conviction of Fraud: http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/10/28/scientology-movement-organised-fraud/?c_id=2&objectid=10605835 The church of Scientology has been branded an "organised fraud" by a French court and fined 600,000 euros ($1.2m) for preying financially on vulnerable believers. Judges in the Paris criminal court stopped short of outlawing the cult's organising bodies. But, in an unusual step, it ordered the church to pay for adverts carrying its findings to be placed in newspapers around the world. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/10/27/scientology-fraud-france-court-charges.html The court convicted the Church of Scientology's French office, its library and six leaders. Investigators said the group pressured members into paying large sums of money for questionable financial gain and used "commercial harassment" against recruits. The court handed down prison sentences ranging from 10 months to two years and fines of $8,000 to $47,750 to four leaders of the group. http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2009/s2725958.htm OLIVIER MORICE (translated): This is an historic decision. I repeat that this is the first time in France that Scientology has been condemned for organised fraud and we are extremely satisfied with this decision. EMMA ALBERICI: The case centred around the claims of former Scientologists who say they were conjoled into spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on personality tests, vitamin cures, sauna sessions and counselling. The investigating judge criticised what he called Scientologists obsession with financial gain. More info that came out today not related to the above: Questions over Scientology's 19 calls in 48 hours before 110,000-volt suicide http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/questions-over-scientologys-19-calls-in-48-hours-before-110000volt-suicide-20091027-hih7.html More on the French Branch of Scientology Conviction of Fraud:

http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/10/28/scientology-movement-organised-fraud/?c_id=2&objectid=10605835
The church of Scientology has been branded an “organised fraud” by a French court and fined 600,000 euros ($1.2m) for preying financially on vulnerable believers. Judges in the Paris criminal court stopped short of outlawing the cult’s organising bodies. But, in an unusual step, it ordered the church to pay for adverts carrying its findings to be placed in newspapers around the world.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/10/27/scientology-fraud-france-court-charges.html
The court convicted the Church of Scientology’s French office, its library and six leaders. Investigators said the group pressured members into paying large sums of money for questionable financial gain and used “commercial harassment” against recruits. The court handed down prison sentences ranging from 10 months to two years and fines of $8,000 to $47,750 to four leaders of the group.

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2009/s2725958.htm
OLIVIER MORICE (translated): This is an historic decision. I repeat that this is the first time in France that Scientology has been condemned for organised fraud and we are extremely satisfied with this decision. EMMA ALBERICI: The case centred around the claims of former Scientologists who say they were conjoled into spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on personality tests, vitamin cures, sauna sessions and counselling. The investigating judge criticised what he called Scientologists obsession with financial gain.

More info that came out today not related to the above:

Questions over Scientology’s 19 calls in 48 hours before 110,000-volt suicide
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/questions-over-scientologys-19-calls-in-48-hours-before-110000volt-suicide-20091027-hih7.html

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/30355/comment-page-1#comment-987998 Reader's Write Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:45:37 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=30355#comment-987998 French Branch of Scientology Is Convicted of Fraud http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/27/1731221/French-Branch-of-Scientology-Is-Convicted-of-Fraud "The French branch of the Church of Scientology was convicted of fraud and fined nearly $900,000 on Tuesday by a Paris court. But the judges did not ban the church entirely, as the prosecution had demanded, saying that a change in the law prevented such an action for fraud. The church said it would appeal. The verdict was among the most important in several years to involve the controversial group, which is registered as a religion in the United States but has no similar legal protection in France. It is considered a sect here, and says it has some 45,000 adherents, out of some 12 million worldwide. It was the first time here that the church itself had been tried and convicted, as opposed to individual members." French Branch of Scientology Is Convicted of Fraud
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/27/1731221/French-Branch-of-Scientology-Is-Convicted-of-Fraud
“The French branch of the Church of Scientology was convicted of fraud and fined nearly $900,000 on Tuesday by a Paris court. But the judges did not ban the church entirely, as the prosecution had demanded, saying that a change in the law prevented such an action for fraud. The church said it would appeal. The verdict was among the most important in several years to involve the controversial group, which is registered as a religion in the United States but has no similar legal protection in France. It is considered a sect here, and says it has some 45,000 adherents, out of some 12 million worldwide. It was the first time here that the church itself had been tried and convicted, as opposed to individual members.”

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