p2pnet World Headlines: Nov 6, 2009
Internet talks to create copyright police Ottaw Citizen
Canadian officials are taking part in negotiations for a top-secret copyright treaty that could see families barred from the Internet for a year if someone in the household is suspected of illegal downloads. Under the worldwide rules of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), Internet service providers such as Bell and Rogers in Canada would be required to become copyright police and filter out pirated material from their networks, hand over the identities of customers believed to be infringing copyrights and restrict the use of identity-blocking software. ACTA would employ a three-strikes policy. People believed to be regularly downloading copy-protected material, such as movie and music files, could have their Internet connection severed for up to 12 months and be forced to pay a fine.
Auditor general’s office says it’s OK to link to, but not host, its reports Winnipeg Free Press
The office of Canada’s auditor general says it’s perfectly OK – and much appreciated – if websites link to reports on its government site, but warns they should not be hosted elsewhere. Advocates for copyright reform expressed concern Thursday when the auditor general’s office demanded the Globe and Mail newspaper remove a copy of a report that had been attached to one of its online articles. The Globe was displaying the report with a web application called Scribd, which allows large documents to be embedded on a web page without the need for an external program like Adobe Reader. It also keeps readers on the same web page, rather than sending them off to another site to read the document.
Fudge Messaging: A new open source encoding for messaging Heise Online
Kirk Wylie and the OpenGamma team have announced the Fudge Messaging Project, an open source message encoding protocol. Fudge (Fast Unstructured Data Generic Encoding) is designed to be a self-describing, type-safe, binary hierarchical encoding suitable for use in messaging layers in middleware. The project is in its early days, but already has Java and C# reference implementations. The Java implementation is in daily use at OpenGamma and is, according to Wylie, “rock-solid in stability and very good in performance”. What is still to come is “polished releases” says Wylie, but the developers wanted to get the code out as soon as they reasonably could.
We couldn’t disconnect clients: Malone The Australian
iiNet chief Michael Malone has told the NSW Federal Court that the ISP’s service agreements did not provide it with sufficient contractual rights to take action against customers who infringe copyright online. Mr Malone made the comments during his third day of cross-examination by lawyers representing a loose coalition of 34 entertainment companies – represented by the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft — pursuing a landmark copyright claim against the ISP. The studios claim that iiNet authorised its customers to illegally share movies on its network by refusing to act on a series of infringement notices the studios’ online piracy investigators began sending to the company in July 2008. However, Mr Malone told the court he believed that laws regulating the way that carriers can use customer information prevented iiNet from helping content owners enforce their copyrights.
Backdoor in top iPhone games stole user data, suit claims The Register
A maker of some of the most popular games for the iPhone has been surreptitiously collecting users’ cell numbers without their permission, according to a federal lawsuit filed Wednesday. The complaint claims best-selling games made by Storm8 contained secret code that bypassed safeguards built into the iPhone to prevent the unauthorized snooping of user information. The Redwood City, California, company, which claims its games have been downloaded more than 20 million times, has no need to collect the numbers.
Gadget problems divide the sexes BBC
Men and women have different approaches to dealing with technology problems, according to a gadget helpline. The service found that 64% of its male callers and 24% of its female callers had not read the instruction manual before ringing up. 12% of male and 7% of female customers simply needed to plug in or turn on their appliance. The company, Gadget Helpline, surveyed 75,000 calls received between 25 September and 23 October 2009.
Confirmed: Skype Founders Settle With eBay And Others, Get 14% Stake In Skype, Not 10% TechCrunch
eBay has just announced that it has reached a settlement with the founders of Skype, clearing the way for the sale of the Internet communication company to a consortium formed by private equity firm Silver Lake Partners, Andreessen Horowitz and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board. Index Ventures, a historical investor in Skype, is not going to be part of that buying party after all, and its partner Mike Volpi is definitely out of the picture (no surprises there).
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November 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I wonder how the ISPs will be able to simply hand over customer identification under Canada’s Freedom of Information and Privacy Act?
November 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
All goes through Bell or Telus, or Videotron, or Shaw, or Rogers.
Seems pretty darn easy to me. Who cares if you are with a mom or pop ISP, it all goes through them and their DPI.
So blocking of stuff is accomplished quite easy.
Capturing data on people on suspicion is quite easy.
If we are lucky, the Chinese will create a “Psiphon” for the Canuks.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
It would be great if we could just boycott anything US, impose massive tariffs, and block any and all trade with the US.
If the rest of the planet was truly tired of such garbage championed by the US trade groups who were only “consulted” (yeah right), they would pull a Smoot-Holly and block trading with the US.
The corporations would scream bloody murder, the economic turmoil would become worse (especially for the US), the US military is already stretched to the max so what are they going to do there, drop nukes? I don’t think so, not if they don’t want Russia to nail them back. The plus? The US politicians would have no choice but to realize their err in bowing to corporations and they would do their jobs and protect their citizens, whom at this point would be grabbing torches and pitchforks (or as they proudly displayed at Health Care Townhalls, their abundance of weapons).
That’s IF the world governments were not already afraid of the US because of the propaganda they spread and the last 60 years of US culture rammed down our throats, courtesy of the CIA.
Shame Shame!
Maybe that youtube clip of investing and owning your own piece of a prison for all the filesharers isn’t too far fetched?
Do we really think privacy laws matter to those making ACTA decisions? No, they only care about their funds they receive from the software alliance and entertainment trade groups.
Guess what politicians, who do you think they get their money from? Right, the newly created criminals your ACTA will declare!
Talk about cutting your own foot off!
“Accepted procedure” to keep people in the dark during trade talks, yeah only if you’re hiding what you know you’d be hung out to dry if the public knew!
November 7th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
“A maker of some of the most popular games for the iPhone has been surreptitiously collecting users’ cell numbers without their permission, according to a federal lawsuit filed Wednesday. The complaint claims best-selling games made by Storm8 contained secret code that bypassed safeguards built into the iPhone to prevent the unauthorized snooping of user information.”
This is what happens when you sell a pocket computer and call it a “phone”.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
German Biz Loses Private Copying Case
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3i8ef233d9d2bed355033d388d6a0034dd
The German record-industry has failed to successfully fight against provision 53 of the country’s copyright law at the German Federal Constitutional Court in Karlsruhe. That provision allows the digital copying of CDs for private use. The consequence of the decision is that digital private copies still remain legal.
The discussion about the legality of private digital copying was subject of the first revised copyright law in 2003. In the second revised version of the law that is still in force, the provision 53 was confirmed against the protests of the record-industry.
The claim filed at the German Federal Constitutional court in December 2008 by Universal, Sony, Warner and EMI among others was not accepted by the court for formal reasons because of time elapsing. The point by the court was that such a claim has to be filed within one year after the respective provision came into force. The third chamber of the German Federal Constitutional Court states in its decision of Oct. 7 2009, which has just been published, that the industry’s claim is inadmissible because it was not filed in time.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:23 am
As an aspiring artist, I am working to music my living. But when I hear people say things like what Robert says:
“It would be great if we could just boycott anything US, impose massive tariffs, and block any and all trade with the US.
If the rest of the planet was truly tired of such garbage championed by the US trade groups who were only “consulted” (yeah right), they would pull a Smoot-Holly and block trading with the US.”
I wonder, if you boycott everything US (even though the US only accounts for ONE of the major labels), then what is the message being sent to artists? The artists that you claim to support don’t hear that you are willing to pay for music, they hear that you are willing to not pay for anything but continue to download. At least that is what heard. Now tell, as an artist, what am I suppose to think about making money in foreign markets now?
November 8th, 2009 at 3:39 am
“Now tell, as an artist, what am I suppose to think about making money in foreign markets now?”
I think you’re confusing an issue Robert wasn’t commenting on with the one he did.
Since you’re an aspiring artist with some concerns about what your potential fans really think about artists, filesharing, the labels, the current state of the music industry, etc., I would hope you’re tuning into the new “Artists To Fans To Artists” site, a2f2a.com, started up by Billy Bragg and p2pnet’s own Jon Newton.
Go there, if you haven’t already done it, and you might be surprised at what Robert and the rest of us are saying about it all. It’s the first site of its kind, with the goal of finally getting artists and their fans talking directly, and hopefully doing business directly in the future. (Read the Mission Statement.)
- Devil’s Advocate,
Digest Editor af2fa.com, and
frequent commenter and occasional contributor to p2pnet.net
November 8th, 2009 at 11:02 am
D.A.
“I think you’re confusing an issue Robert wasn’t commenting on with the one he did.”
What was he commenting on? All I heard was an anti-US rant. Being an aspiring artist in the US, is this supposed to make me feel better about Canada when I see statements like that coupled with news articles about the “rampant” piracy in Canada? It really is hard to tell what he’s saying, other than an anti-US rant, with comments like “the propaganda they spread and the last 60 years of US culture rammed down our throats, courtesy of the CIA.” Is that supposed to make me more supportive of your cause? Because it is not.
Yes, I’ve been following a2f2a for a couple weeks now and I’ve been following p2pnet for quite a while. I’ve been thinking of signing up but haven’t because it really doesn’t seem like anyone really wants to hear what the artist has to say. The labels sure as hell don’t care, but we still need them. And file sharers don’t appear to care either when they label supports of the industry as trolls.
So here I am, sitting at home, and what am I supposed to make of all this? I hear someone from a “piracy” site bashing my country, from a country that has “rampant” piracy, and then I’m told that you do support me? That is not the message being sent.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
“What was he commenting on? All I heard was an anti-US rant.”
Well then (and not to offend, either), if all you saw was rant against the US, it would be prudent to see what the rant was all about. Robert was reacting to the current “trade conference”, ACTA, which is obviously one of the many farces cooked up to coerce the rest of the world to adopt US law and commerce policies.
This issue has nothing to do with Robert’s view (and the view of many here) of the Music Industry, clearly stated all over p2pnet and a2f2a, which basically says that artists and their fans have BOTH been screwed in a number of ways by the Industry, the labels and all the propaganda (where filesharing and filesharers were given the lion’s share of negative spin).
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“…I hear someone from a “piracy” site bashing my country, from a country that has “rampant” piracy…”
The fact that you think p2pnet is a “piracy” site, and that Canada is a hotbed for “rampant piracy” illustrates how you may have also been another casualty from the endless propaganda. Why?… Because you’re obviously REPEATING the same propaganda, without bothering to think for yourself.
Let’s get a few things straight…
1) p2pnet is a “people to people” news and blog site, discussing everything that affects the end user of any technology. Filesharing may be one of the many things we talk about here, but that’s part and parcel of a “digital news site”, which is what Jon has at the very top of every page. It hosts no files, and isn’t posting torrent links. It’s fairly plain to see it’s not a “piracy” site.
2) There’s lots of supposed “reports” being circulated by the Mainstream Media about Canada being a “pirate haven”. This is a propaganda campaign designed to make Canada look bad, in order to coerce Canada into adopting US-made DMCA-style copyright laws. It was put out before the onset of the first ACTA meeting by the very people who profit from such laws (the Entertainment Industry and various corporations that think they own not just the world, but YOU along with it), and is repeated by the very media networks they own.
It may interest you to know, it has been proven that it is the US that has shown a poor track record in the area of “piracy”. The major portion of actual piracy-related crime is based in the US, hosted by servers owned by a Americans, located either in the US or another country. And, the majority of the users you like to call “pirates” that are accessing these sources are American users.
Canada’s copyright laws, on the other hand, are not nearly as lacking as those in almost any other country, despite the fact that we haven’t successfully revised them in the last 10 years or so. They’re actually quite robust in reality, and that was proven.
This is the way propaganda works – create a false scenario, get everybody fired up about a lie, pointing fingers at those you want to control or put out of business.
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“…it really doesn’t seem like anyone really wants to hear what the artist has to say…”
Have you even read what most of the fans have said, here or on a2f2a??!
Don’t confuse some of the “heated discussions” for being “anti-artist”.
Most of the disagreements are over ideas that don’t appear to be beneficial to artists, when you really examine them in detail. The fans don’t want artists to fail. They’re just acknowledging that present business models have failed BOTH artists and their fans.
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“The labels sure as hell don’t care, but we still need them.”
Now I’m completely SURE you haven’t read what everyone’s saying.
Practically every page of a2f2a echoes sentiments, from both fans and artists alike, about how the labels need to die.
You say you’ve been following the site, yet appear to have seen nothing.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
D.A.
“Robert was reacting to the current ‘trade conference, ACTA, which is obviously one of the many farces cooked up to coerce the rest of the world to adopt US law and commerce policies.” So when did CRIA, BPI, ARIA become US trade organizations? When did Sony BMG, Vivendi, EMI become US companies?
And his reaction was to bash the US and call for a boycott of anything US. What about calling for the same thing against Canada, Britain, Australian,,, Germany or France, where they are also considering kicking file sharers off the net. So he wants to boycott US artists while giving a pass to artists from all of the other countries involved? Nothing was mentioned about his own country being in the mix of this. It was only bash US. And that is not fair, not accurate of the situation, irresponsible and propaganda. Why didn’t he lump his own country in with the boycott when they are just as deep in this? Or is it just easier to attack the US, after all we are the most convenient target. Now please address his comment “the propaganda they spread and the last 60 years of US culture rammed down our throats, courtesy of the CIA.” If that isn’t plain old US bashing, then what is? And where does CRIA, BPI, ARIA, Sony BMG, Vivendi and EMI fit into the CIA’s scheme?
You also said “The fact that you think p2pnet is a ‘piracy’ site, and that Canada is a hotbed for ‘rampant piracy’ illustrates how you may have also been another casualty from the endless propaganda.” Note the “” I put around “piracy” and “rampant”. I use the “” to mock the main stream media reports. File sharing doesn’t equal lost sales. We are on the same page there. The point of my comment is the perspective of fellow artists who aren’t completely free of major label mentality and do believe that file sharing equals lost sales. They hear you saying that you support the artist and then also see anti-US rants calling for the equivalent of boycotts against US artists while not mentioning the guilty parties in Canada, Europe or Australia that are pushing the same policies as the RIAA. From the American artist’s perspective, how does this look on the file sharing community?
Also: “Now I’m completely SURE you haven’t read what everyone’s saying. Practically every page of a2f2a echoes sentiments, from both fans and artists alike, about how the labels need to die. You say you’ve been following the site, yet appear to have seen nothing.” Yes we still need them. There is no other organizations that have the ability to finance, promote and mass distribute work world wide. Have they screwed artists over? YES. Have they screwed fans over? YES. But we do not have anything to replace them with. Most artists do not have the financial means to mass promote themselves to global markets. The internet is changing that but at the moment, the most effective promotion tool is still (and most likely always will be) radio. And independent artists do not have the financial means or business connections to get air time on global radio. We need the labels for this. I don’t like this but it still doesn’t change the fact that we need them.
Anyway, to the point that made me post in the first place. The anti-US rant. That is the focus of the debate. Almost all other points, I think we are in agreement on. But its not fair to American artists to push the US in the mud without also condemning the policies of European, Australian, Canadian and Japanese organizations that are pushing the same policies.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
“The anti-US rant”
Okay…
I failed to absorb your use of quotes in that paragraph, and took the wrong meaning on the “piracy” thing. (Which is really weird, because I used them the same way, didn’t I?!) Apologies for that!
Since we’re on the same page about filesharing, let’s just skip back to Robert’s rant…
Robert was mostly talking in the “What if WE did that?!” context, referring to what the US does to everyone else. The US really does threaten to cut off trade partners who don’t simply change the terms of their trade agreements. And, the US did START the BS about Canada’s “lax” copyright regime, and is currently attempting to use the falsified “reports” (which their people PAID FOR), and the threat of trade sanctions, as leverage in the ACTA process to get Canada to change its very laws.
It’s nothing short of criminal extortion, and Obama is spearheading this.
The entire global Entertainment Industry lobbied for it, and the US Government is presenting US law and its corporate-friendly DMCA as the model that should be followed, “or else”.
This is coming from your beloved White House, and not from the fans/filesharers.
Canada is not pushing the same policies. (Why would we be condemning the US, if our country was doing the same?!)
Lots of other countries are not (yet?) pushing the same policies either.
A few are in a “dark place” and are mulling it over, but many of those are getting smart and refusing to go along with it all.
If you do your homework, you’ll see that very few countries actually agree with the “disconnection”, and even those are waffling back and forth about it. Seems the only time they start liking it is after a “visit” from Obama and the MAFIAA (comprised of all the other acronyms you’ve mentioned). And, the CRIA is nothing more than an extention of your RIAA. (We actually refer to them as the “Canadian Recording Industry Association of America” or CRIAA.)
There’s no conflict with wanting artists to succeed in the US, and condemning the endless racketeering of the US. And, if you don’t already know the CIA’s part in this, you may just want to do some additional homework, as it’s in your interest as a US citizen (I’m assuming).
Look, nobody’s saying we don’t have concerns of our own in Canada about our own government, but for the sake of this particular conversation, I’m only straightening out where the involvement actually is in what you refer to. Canada didn’t ask for any of it, while the US certainly did. Telling the truth is not “bashing”.
If anything, artists should be similarly condemning the US, as these policies threaten their livelyhood in a very serious way.
Ah, but then there’s the Labels!
These mobsters are the prime instigators in this whole scenario.
You THINK they’re still a necessary evil?! They’re actually NOT.
Between very affordable home studio setups, and alternate contract sources for everything from promotion to production, the Labels have already lost their validity. Many artists have already discarded them, and many new artists have never used them. Here’s a recent comment from a2f2a with that in mind…
(bill Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm)
“Phil Pritchett is a Texas musician who has been engaging in a direct artist to fan marketing approach since 1995. 10 albums and about 150 shows a year without benefit of label support. His newest release, The Mark of the Human Hand, just came out. 3 tracks are available for free download here http://www.philpritchett.com/mp3.php The Great John West addresses the expectations of privalege and the realities for the rest of the world. Well worth investigating. I have sent Phil an inquiry to see if he is interested in contributing to a2f2a, but no response as yet. At the very least, his model is worth investigating as a workable example of a modern approach to marketing an artist’s music directly to a willing fan base.”
This is a classic example of the kind of stuff we’re trying to bring to the surface on a2f2a.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
@RW Calm down!
The rant was not anti-Americans, as in citizens, it was anti-US politics and corporate affairs. The CRIA/BPI/ et. al. only follow suit to RIAA because they have to. The DMCA was born out of scare tactics as politicians only know how to lock things down, they don’t know how to be reasonable. Lobbyists know this and they also know that politicians do not know how the internet works.
My rant was directed at how the US government and US corporations have been exerting excessive influence on the rest of the countries, using military might to introduce ‘democracy’ in regions which didn’t even ask for it, exploiting lax laws on human rights and environmental protection (oil/toxic waste/used electronics), and now trying to force what they view as necessary trade and IP laws on a global scale.
You are way off base with your assumptions that I suggested boycotting artists from US and giving a pass to artists from other countries. That was not said or implied. Since when were artists a part of ACTA?
Again, the point is, the US government and US corporations are pushing their beliefs through propaganda (”Pirate Haven Canada”), financial threats (”softwood lumber unless you enter Afghanistan”), and basically typing the scales in their favour through global manipulation and exploitation. The reason? To gain control. Britain was the global supreme super power and after WWII the US took over. Given the financial mess the US is in and fighting mini-wars across the globe, their days seem a little numbered with being the person on the block with the biggest stick, intending to get their own way at whatever cost.
And in case you have not noticed, the CIA is guilty of infusing US culture up on the world. Why would they do that? To set themselves up as the next super power (when they started some 60+ years ago) and that’s exactly where they are now. What do people crave? US Culture! US movies, US music, US food, US humour, US merchandise, etc… Do you think that happened because your culture is so great? No. It happened to allow entry into those countries, for US influence! That is the only reason! With corporations employing people all over the world, that’s US influence. With people all over the world immersed in US generated culture, that’s US influence! Most cultural influences upon the US by other countries come from immigration; people enter bringing bits of their culture and open restaurants or start small businesses that introduce US citizens to their culture.
That’s a far cry from what US culture has done to say China, where you see KFC and McDonald’s all over the place. They have their own fast food, like Kung Fu (yes a chain and yes there are pictures of Bruce Lee) but in Suzhou for example, you’ll find one Kung Fu and 6 KFC in a 800m stretch of road. If that’s not injected cultural influence, what is?
Take a step back, stop thinking of yourself, the aspiring artist, and think of what has really happened in the last 60 years. How much influence has anyone else had upon the globe? And how was that influence achieved? Through colonization, as in France with many parts of Africa or UK with India? Or was it through a more clever approach, whereby entire generations have a craving for US culture?
Read up on it man/woman, it’s actually pretty interesting.
My boycott was clearly targeting the corporations and government of the US for imposing their bullshit ACTA so they can have little bitches in every other country doing their dirty work for them, because the US can’t just go into a country like they own the place and impose their will…. they’d never do that! [end sarcasm]
November 9th, 2009 at 12:00 am
(Glad to see ya, Robert!)
November 9th, 2009 at 12:06 am
@DA
No energy, had abdominal cramps from pushing so hard, not enough sleep all week, too much work stress and hours at work, etc… just excuses for doing poorly.
Sorry, had a cyclocross race today, did very poorly too
But that’s why I’ve not been commenting on a2f2a or p2pnet, just so damn busy with work.
I meant to include you in the “Take a break” article, just missed a few common names as a result of work/losing it.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:14 am
It’s truly amazing to note the way spin and false patriotism have kept many Americans from absorbing things like, who bin Laden really was, or who Saddam Hussein really was, and what they actually had to do with the US, the CIA, etc.
(Don’t worry, I’m not going to invoke “9ou-know/w11at” in this thread.)
November 9th, 2009 at 12:16 am
No worries about any of that, Robert.
Cheers! [winks at Jon]
November 9th, 2009 at 1:24 am
I do find it amazing that being an American is an automatic bulls eye on my chest. I was amazed to find out that a trade group (RIAA), that is made up of only ONE US company, is a US trade group instead of the US arm of an international corporate coalition. The fact that 75% of the companies and corruption within the RIAA comes from Japan and Europe seems to be irrelevant just as long as we can blame the US for all the problems. The good ‘ole “evil US corporations argument” seems to apply when only ONE of those corporations are American. I am also amazed to find out that the RIAA’s handlers have chosen to abuse only the American arm of their global coalition. I find it fascinating that EMI, Vivendi and Sony BMG are content with their power in the US and have not used the BPI, CRIA or other national arms of their global coalition to abuse fans and artists. And the RIAA is acting without approval or direction from Paris, Tokyo or London in pressuring other national arms of this global coalition. What I really find amazing is that this global corporate coalition only has power over their US arm and has to use that US arm to pressure Canada’s arm of this coalition. Its really fascinating how the CRIA has been able to resist the power of Paris, Tokyo and London and the RIAA has to be used to apply pressure. [end sarcasm]
The reality is that 75% of the RIAA are not US companies. This is a case of a global corporate coalition attacking fans and artists, not the US attacking fans and artists. As for governments, the US isn’t the only government bowing to copyright holding organizations. Blaming the US only alienates American artists even more. If you want American artist support then the focus needs to be on the labels and not the US because my country isn’t the only country in the world abusing fans and artists.
“It’s truly amazing to note the way spin and false patriotism have kept many Americans from absorbing things…” And the file sharing community takes two steps backward in their outreach to American artists. I WAS thinking of participating on a2f2a an give an independent artist’s perspective but I won’t accept lie that the US is the sole target of copyright power, corruption and blame in the world’s copyright fight. My suggestion, if you want to gain the support of US artists,,, drop the “blame the US” rhetoric. Before you end up fighting the labels and American artists. Because that is the road you are heading down.
November 9th, 2009 at 7:49 am
@RW
We find it amazing how short sighted you are. Do you really think RIAA is the ONLY trade group supporting ACTA? Yet that’s all you seem to say.
So I guess the Software Alliance and all the AMERICAN companies they represent doesn’t count? How about MPAA’s companies?
You have shown that you are not willing to do any homework and are excellent at using the strawman fallacy to avoid any self education.
Maybe you should read what Americans think of the DMCA and realize your comments are really demonstrating your ignorance on this subject.
We’ll stop accusing the US corporations and government with manipulation, extortion and abuse of power when they actually stop doing it. In your mind, it’s OK for the US to accuse every other country (except themselves) of being heavy copyright infringers but if we call them on their BS, we’re using a “Blame the US rhetoric.” How very convenient and ignorant of you.
And the US is the driving force, never said “sole”, we said DRIVING FORCE of copyright issues. It wasn’t the UK or France or anyone in Europe or Asia or Canada that was jumping up and down over filesharing in the 90’s or even early 2000’s, it was the … oh nevermind. If you can’t be bothered to read for yourself, you’re not worth the effort of trying to teach you.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:46 am
No. The RIAA is not the only trade group supporting ACTA. And the US is not the only country with trade groups supporting ACTA. The driving force in this fight is not the US but the global corporate coalition of copyright organizations. But that is ok. If it makes you feel better to blame the US then you keep doing that. As for me. I just lost faith in the file sharing community. This is another artist that you’ve turned against you.
Instead of focusing on the power hungry copyright organizations, you chose to rant about and bash the US. So when ACTA comes knocking and threatens to kick you off the net, you’ll be fighting that one alone.
I won’t be participating in a2f2a after all. I’ve got more important things to do than bang my head against the wall.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am
@RW
Suit yourself. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. You can continue with your assumed inference and you won’t have any support of anyone.
And you are really ignorant to world politics and who controls what, who has the largest influence, and who is the driving force.
Luckily most people who read understand what ACTA really is and are against it. They understand where it is coming from and who’s driving and who’s applying the pressure. If you were another country with a gun to your head, you’d participate in ACTA as well.
I really find it difficult to comprehend how you can lose faith in the file sharing community, when we’re talking about US politics and corporate tactics. Nice strawman.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Sometimes I just want to cry.
Ya try to tell someone he’s got dirt on his face, and he calls ya a liar, and won’t even look in the mirror to check.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
@DA
I know the feeling. Then they get defensive, employ the strawman fallacy, and top it off with assumed inference.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
@RW:
“Canada’s successful “notice and notice” approach to addressing infringing content hosted by Internet providers – adopted by both Conservative and Liberal copyright bills – would be rejected in favour of a U.S. model that requires removal of content without evidence of infringement.”
And you say the US is not the driving force behind ACTA and I have no reason to bash US government or corporations! Riiiight!