I wasn’t saying “the elderly are dumb and incapable”.
I was referring to the fact that the computers being described above are being marketed as being “designed for the elderly”, a “quality” which, in itself, is blatantly stigmatic already.

And, since these computers are being pre-configured for the supposedly “less computer savvy” (which is really what it boils down to), it begs the question, “How, exactly, is it configured, and what will it do by default?” The term “clueless” refers to those who don’t know the difference between what that computer SHOULD be allowed to do without instruction and what it SHOULDN’T be allowing, by default, as well as not knowing why there are things you need to approve before allowing them to happen. The term applies to ANYONE who fits that category of user, not simply the “old and unexperienced”. And there are still a disturbing number of “clueless” computer users out there, young and old.

You can bet your bottom dollar that these computers are being configured to take advantage of the inexperienced, if left unchecked by someone who knows better. I wouldn’t put it past them to have all sorts of “goodies” on it that ensure the user’s data gets shared and tracked all over the place, along with preset “convenience links” that will point the user to sites that are designed to sell them on things.

I could go on and on with a hundred or more quick examples of how they’d exploit the situation, but the bottom line, Indiana, is you completely missed the point of my first post. I wasn’t making fun of the elderly – I was making a pre-emptive statement of suspicion about the people behind such a marketing ploy.

My mum used to drag me to convalescent centers as a child. She would play the organ and make me sing old ’standards’. Afterwards, these elderly people would talk to me. Sometimes they would grab me and pinch my cheeks (which wasn’t all that cool, but, I tolerated it). Anyway, to make a long story short, it taught me loads. You can’t have their wisdom or experience until you allow them to share it. In that time between 6 and 17, I learned loads. My mum was a real educator. She was a complete and royal pain. No way I’d ever get by with murder. But, her making me spend my time with those people is pure classic and I wouldn’t trade it for the world. Grief. Now, I’m rambling:) (Thanks Jon. Not sure how you knew that this post would mean something to me. clever clogs luv it! ok, not for exploiting the elderly because of an expensive software, that’s kinda sad. But, hey, nice and if they want it, it’s probably worth it and it’s all about choice. :0

You really don’t accept the OED defenition? Try looking it up in the collins dictionary… http://www.collinslanguage.com

OK. I concede.

Cheers!

That’s knickers, plural, that ladies wear, not knicker, singular, unless it’s a lady with one leg.

So No, Rabbit80, sorry. I’m afraid I’ll need a firmer authority on this before I’m willing to concede.

Cheers!

Try the Oxford English dictionary…
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/nicker_1?view=uk

You’re right. Good thing I still have my monthly stipend from the Crimean War.

“oh… and its nicker – not knicker ”

Who says? heh

Cheers!

Just a question.