Comments on: MiniNova deletes copyright torrents

By: Devil's Advocate

Devil's Advocate — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:14:05 +0000

Fuckin’ spammers.

By: ll isohunt

ll isohunt — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:20:31 +0000

mininova was legal so shutting down your own legal service becap of mafiaa is fked up . just use http://www.mininova.biz instead

By: Comeoncomcast (aka Andrew)

Comeoncomcast (aka Andrew) — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:14:13 +0000

*sigh*

They could move to Sweeeeden or the Ukraine and Bunk with the TPB guys lol

By: Crosbie Fitch

Crosbie Fitch — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:23:27 +0000

Robert, maybe we can foment a popular uprising to abolish copyright?

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:36:55 +0000

Maybe we can find a judge who’s fair and will nail the labels?

By: Crosbie Fitch

Crosbie Fitch — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:11:00 +0000

Don’t worry Robert, labels will be exempt from ‘graduated response’. For them you’ll need lawyers and evidence of infringement (dependent upon provenance, not similarity).

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:49:40 +0000

@Crosbie:
Then why not have a bunch of people write stuff now and scour for “Sounds Similar” and declair infringement and have the labels’ sites taken down Think that’s possible?

By: Crosbie Fitch

Crosbie Fitch — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:37:21 +0000

@robert, yep, that’s going to help the backlash. The thing is ACTA doesn’t require evidence of infringement, so as you suggest similarity=infringement too. Even CC and GPL works aren’t immune. If someone suspects they infringe, too bad. They may as well do.

The cartel wants to turn the Internet into a theme park that they own. And that means kicking anyone out who is obnoxious in their eyes, e.g. a freeloader. The thing is they can easily kick people out, because they’ll have ‘higher rate licenses’ for ISPs to offer them to come back. In other words “Linux infringes our patents. Goodbye.” followed by “Have you tried our prestige Internet access package? Higher bandwidth and our special ‘download anything from anywhere’ license!”.

This is the forthcoming choice the cartel would like to offer people:
1) $40/month standard ISP package – if you respect copyright and don’t share/download anything without paying for it
2) $150/month prestige ISP package – if you’ve been disconnected from standard/unlicensed ISP packages or would rather not be, and can afford to pay through the nose

By: catflap

catflap — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:18:13 +0000

demonoid where are you? come back really soon, okay?

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:42:11 +0000

@Crosbie,
Additionally, until your last paragraph comes true, they will sue for infringement because the songs that are copyright free or even CC, will sound “too similar” to another copyrighted artist’s works.

By: Crosbie Fitch

Crosbie Fitch — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:36:24 +0000

Just as newspapers obscure themselves from their readers through pay walls, so copyright holders obscure their works from the public.

It is quite farcical.

(If only Pandora would come back to Europe and similarly only stream music from musicians who actually wanted to be freely promoted.)

Soon, ‘(c)’ will take on the same significance as ‘radioactive hazard’, i.e. no one will want anything with such a mark anywhere near their homes or children, it’s so dangerous.

In a few years’ time the copyright maximising cartel will realise it’s error and say “Ooops. Sorry. Please forgive us. Really, it’s safe to share our material now. Really, it is. We’ve decontaminated it from any nastiness. We won’t disconnect you, sue you into oblivion, or send your kids to jail.”.

Too late.