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	<title>Comments on: Billy Bragg, Charlie Angus, on digital culture</title>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see FAC do a 180 on three strikes, the last statement they had on that was Sept 25th&#039;s Air statement: 

We the undersigned wish to express our support for Lily Allen in her campaign to alert music lovers to the threat that illegal downloading presents to our industry and to condemn the vitriol that has been directed at her in recent days. 

Our meeting also voted overwhelmingly to support a three-strike sanction on those who persistently download illegal files, sanctions to consist of a warning letter, a stronger warning letter and a final sanction of the restriction of the infringerâs bandwidth to a level which would render file-sharing of media files impractical while leaving basic email and web access functional.

If that stands I will treat it exactly as it is, a declaration of war from the artists to the p2p community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see FAC do a 180 on three strikes, the last statement they had on that was Sept 25th&#8217;s Air statement: </p>
<p>We the undersigned wish to express our support for Lily Allen in her campaign to alert music lovers to the threat that illegal downloading presents to our industry and to condemn the vitriol that has been directed at her in recent days. </p>
<p>Our meeting also voted overwhelmingly to support a three-strike sanction on those who persistently download illegal files, sanctions to consist of a warning letter, a stronger warning letter and a final sanction of the restriction of the infringerâs bandwidth to a level which would render file-sharing of media files impractical while leaving basic email and web access functional.</p>
<p>If that stands I will treat it exactly as it is, a declaration of war from the artists to the p2p community.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jazz:

You can&#039;t lump all artists into one category -- plenty of them are behind fans, probaby the majority, if they had a way of making their thoughts known. 

And I&#039;ve been told by a FAC member that by no means did everyone vote for the 3 strikes scam.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jazz:</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t lump all artists into one category &#8212; plenty of them are behind fans, probaby the majority, if they had a way of making their thoughts known. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve been told by a FAC member that by no means did everyone vote for the 3 strikes scam.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, I&#039;ll point out that the Deep Packet Inspection technology &lt;em&gt;will&lt;/em&gt; work.

Bear in mind that it doesn&#039;t have to &lt;em&gt;really work&lt;/em&gt; it just has to be something will flashing lights and teletype noises to impress the visiting dignitaries.

As we know, you get disconnected from the Internet because the cartel have ACCUSED you of infringement. It doesn&#039;t matter whether the DPI technology really works or not. They simply need something plausible to back up their suspicion as the cause for their accusation. And they won&#039;t be presenting this to court judges and expert witnesses, but to the press.

No evidence is required.
No court is involved.

If the cartel doesn&#039;t like the look of you or what you&#039;re up to, security will eject you from what is now &#039;DismalWorld Online&#039;TM. If you&#039;re not a consumer, you&#039;re outta here!

&#039;Plausible deniability&#039; is no use to the accused except when they&#039;re innocent until proven guilty. When you&#039;re guilty until proven innocent, you need PROOF of innocence, and the accuser just needs plausible culpability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, I&#8217;ll point out that the Deep Packet Inspection technology <em>will</em> work.</p>
<p>Bear in mind that it doesn&#8217;t have to <em>really work</em> it just has to be something will flashing lights and teletype noises to impress the visiting dignitaries.</p>
<p>As we know, you get disconnected from the Internet because the cartel have ACCUSED you of infringement. It doesn&#8217;t matter whether the DPI technology really works or not. They simply need something plausible to back up their suspicion as the cause for their accusation. And they won&#8217;t be presenting this to court judges and expert witnesses, but to the press.</p>
<p>No evidence is required.<br />
No court is involved.</p>
<p>If the cartel doesn&#8217;t like the look of you or what you&#8217;re up to, security will eject you from what is now &#8216;DismalWorld Online&#8217;TM. If you&#8217;re not a consumer, you&#8217;re outta here!</p>
<p>&#8216;Plausible deniability&#8217; is no use to the accused except when they&#8217;re innocent until proven guilty. When you&#8217;re guilty until proven innocent, you need PROOF of innocence, and the accuser just needs plausible culpability.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artists taking the lead?  That&#039;s a laugh. I haven&#039;t seen the artists taking the lead in anything, so far. In fact, just the opposite. Look at the FAC and the three strikes thing. 

I hope you have better luck in Canada than we&#039;ve had here in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artists taking the lead?  That&#8217;s a laugh. I haven&#8217;t seen the artists taking the lead in anything, so far. In fact, just the opposite. Look at the FAC and the three strikes thing. </p>
<p>I hope you have better luck in Canada than we&#8217;ve had here in the UK.</p>
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