MiniNova down, but isoHunt lives on
p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- With the news MiniNova has abandoned its traditional indexing service, now working only with Content Distribution, “That leaves you as probably the only major, and true, indexing site online,” p2pnet emailed isoHunt’s Gary Fung yesterday.
“Do you expect to be able to to continue for the foreeeable future?” – we asked.
“Nothing’s changed as far as we are concerned,” he said.
Based in Vancouver, BC, isoHunt is, of course, a mere ferryride from p2pnet’s palatial central complex on Vancouver Island.
With isoHunt as the only substantial surviving indexing citadel, Gary posts he’s already written a fair bit about his legal struggle with CRIA going on, “Since CRIA’s initial cease and desist letters (effectively asking us to shutdown entirely), we have tried to reason with CRIA, have petitioned the court on our legal right to exist as a search engine. Both to no avail, since Judge Curtis has denied our ‘petition’ as improper form, and have ordered us to a normal, lengthy and costly legal ‘action’. We have done that this week.”
The CRIA is Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony Music’s bumbling RIAA clone, the Canadian Recording Industry Association of America)
Gary continues »»»
Here’s our Statement of Claim (pdf) we just filed for our action at the BC Supreme Court.
As I’ve written to the Canadian government in the public consultation for upcoming copyright reform, I have high hopes for Canadian copyright laws and its courts to not make the mistakes that have been made elsewhere in the world. We must fight the increasing noise we are drowned in, that file sharing is stealing.
I believe we Canadians are especially blessed with musical talent such as Sarah McLachlan, Celine Dion, Nelly Furtado, Lights and many others. So many that our “cultural output” per capita is arguably greater than that of many other countries. And we have done this without the excessive litigation against consumers that the legal climate in countries like our southern neighbor has encouraged. Thanks in part to our lack of DMCA-like copyright laws that does more harm than good.
With continued changes in both the digital marketplace and usage of P2P search engines like isoHunt, I believe now is a better time than ever to put our differences aside with copyright owners, and figure out how we can utilize P2P distribution and social media for the benefit of all.
The internet has widened our choice in music more than ever before, and the music industry is live and well contrary to lies of certain lobbyists. The EU have also commissioned a study that found, P2P is not to blame for failures of certain parts of content industries. Why? How? Because P2P is the greatest radio ever.
If you are a musician and agree with us, we would love to hear from you! We have already heard many interesting feedback, like that of a book author, we want to hear more. And I cordially invite you to join our new spinoff, Hexagon.cc. Together, we can create a better future for content distribution and sharing. Same goes out to film makers, software and game developers.
“As for CRIA and member record labels, if you come to your sense of reason, I would love to talk to you outside of court,” says Gary, adding:
” The ball you’ve dropped on us is back to you.”
If p2pnet has value for you, help me keep it online. Cheers! And thanks : )
(If you don`t fancy online payments, please email me at p2pnet @ shaw dot ca and I`ll send you my snail-mail address.)
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win ~ Mahatma Gandhi
traditional indexing service - MiniNova deletes copyright torrents, November 26, 2009
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November 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
keep up the good work
November 27th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I’m tired of reading torrent freak stories here minutes after they publish them but you bypassing them and linking straight to their source, talk about lame Jon. Lots if us read both sites, we arent idiots u know
November 27th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
extratorrent indexing is still online and growing.
pbay is still online and many people have come back
after the sellout failed. pbay also indexes torrents that don’t solely use the pbay trackers.
scenereleases indexing is having retarded copyright issues and searching for a new server.
but – demonoid where are you? come back really soon, okay?
November 27th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
@ merrett
I knew about this particular story first thing this morning — possibly before TorrentFreak, not that I care who has what first, or when or where it appears. I’m not in a contest.
I waited until last post, so to speak, because I usually hang on to the ‘best’ story until the end of my day.
As far as TF goes, if you look back you’ll see when I get something from there, I say so not only in the story, but also in a link with the headline and date at the bottom of the page. As I do with every story I quote from.
Here are a few — just a few — recent TF examples
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/30233
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/27086
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/26411
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25544
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23342
Also read this http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15919
In it, among other things, I say: “Quite a few p2pnet stories are lifted whole and re-published elsewhere. Sometimes the people who are re-running them say where they got them, and sometimes they don’t. But since most of the time I’m simply trying to pass information on, that’s cool and I don’t lose sleep over it.”
One other thing: my approach is completely different from TF’s. We may have a post on the same event or happening, but 9.999 times out of 10, my stories are totally different in every way from TF’s.
But thanks for caring.
Cheers!
November 27th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
The CRIA loves to threaten isoHunt for Copyright infringement under the Canadian Copyright Act.
Yet on the other hand, also claims Canada’s copyright laws are too lax (allowing torrent sites to proliferate) and need reform.
So which is it Sookman/CRIA? You can’t claim both. Its one or the other.
November 27th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Howdy Spike:
“You canât claim both. Its one or the other.”
You can if you’re ‘Sookman and/or the CRIA. You can also claim the moon is made of green cheese and the lamescream media will repeat that as fact as well.
Cheers!
November 28th, 2009 at 3:56 am
It is a waste of time to talk to these music and media corporate parasites.
There is no point negotiating with terrorists and we know where our duty lies as good citizen and patriots.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:18 am
Long time reader, First time poster.
How is this any different from Prohibition in the 1920’s US ?
To me it seems, it’s doomed for failure. You can’t force people en-mass to do something they don’t want to. It will only drive it underground. Hell, if anything, Prohibition made alcohol even more prolific, and that much more desirable.
It baffles the hell out of me, why these corporations can’t see there’s far far more profits to be made in the long term by taxing file sharing. Just like alcohol.
Seriously, what the hell? Are they that mentally deficient, that they can’t see such a simple and profitable solution, when it’s right in front of them?
Everyone would get what they wanted.
The file sharers could share, and the corporations could fulfill their greed.
November 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am
“…more profits to be made in the long term by taxing file sharing.”
Not exactly possible.
Not wanted, either!
November 29th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Let’s see…US govt against piracy, Korean govt against piracy, Australian govt against piracy, UK govt against piracy, French govt against piracy, Holland govt against piracy, Japanese govt against piracy.
What are the odds that Fung get’s to declare Canada as global piracy safe haven?
I think I can smell your Opterons Gary. We may have that green mouse as a trophy.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I just wish isohunt had the same layout as mininova as it was easy to find the newest torrents out