Only wrong-doers worry about online privacy
p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- If you’re worried about Google getting your personal data, then you must be doing something you shouldn’t be doing, says Google boss Eric Schmidt.
Not only but also, “If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines — including Google — do retain this information for some time and it’s important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act and it is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities,” he told CNBC, according to The Register.
It didn’t come as any kind of surprise to learn the Yahoo yahoos actually have a small bidniz offshoot called the Compliance Guide for Law Enforcement >>>
Federal law (See 18 U.S.C. § 2706) requires law enforcement to reimburse providers like Yahoo! for costs incurred responding to subpoena requests, court orders, or search warrants. Yahoo! generally requests reimbursement when responding to legal process …
Yahoo! will seek reimbursement based on the actual time expended by Yahoo!’s compliance staff in complying with the request. The average costs related to compliance matters are listed below for your convenience. These estimates are neither a ceiling nor a floor but represent the average costs of typical searches. Time spent may vary considerably based on the wording of the request and the information available about the user. These time estimates are also based on narrowly tailored requests that do not require extensive searches in multiple databases. These estimates are not price quotes, budgets, or guarantees and should not be used for budgeting purposes. Yahoo! reserves the right to adjust its estimates and reimbursement charges as necessary.
- Basic subscriber records: approx. $20 for the first ID, $10 per ID thereafter
- Basic Group Information (including information about moderators): approx. $20 for a group with a single moderator
- Contents of subscriber accounts, including email: approx. $30-$40 per user
- Contents of Groups: approx. $40 – $80 per group
But Google, the holiest of holies?
On the other hand, it was an early trendsetter.
Back in 2004, Google spokeswoman Debbie Frost denied claims that its Chinese service was censoring news, but then admitted to p2pnet, “to create the best possible news search experience for our users, we sometimes decide not to include some sites, for a variety of reasons”.
‘Not to include.’ Good one.
Anyway, “If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place,” Schmidt told CNBC
So now you know —-
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The Register – Google chief: Only miscreants worry about net privacy, December 7, 2009
bidniz offshoot – Yahoo: ‘$20 for the first ID …’, December 7, 2009
p2pnet – Google on China censorship, October 1, 2004
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December 8th, 2009 at 9:52 am
use http://www.scroogle.org or http://www.startpage.com no logs kept. It is not true if you are doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to hide. This is the same mentality that has allowed the uk to put cc cameras in peoples homes to protect the children. Basically if your not doing nothing wrong, whats wrong with the situation? I don’t think so
Skru you and all the logs, I think I’ll use other services or perhapse use a vpn when searching/etc if I want to keep out of google. Lets not forget that google is on over 80% of websites because of ads. Maybe I’ll use a vpn, now that I think about it.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
WOW what a dumb f*ck that guy is. If he’s not doing anything wrong in HIS home, how about he allow me to set up some web cams in his house, and in his bedroom, and in his bathroom. How about he publish ALL of his emails for the past ten years for all to see? How about he allow me to bug the Google offices?
This “if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide” is the mantra of fools and tyrants throughout history.
Anonymous speech is ESSENTIAL to a free society. As the Supreme Court has made clear, “Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority.” McIntyre V Ohio Elections Commission (1995). Anonymity is what protects people from expressing an unpopular political view in a community where the majority holds vastly different political views and allows people to safely provide information about government misconduct. And for those living in repressive societies, anonymous speech is an enabler of human rights and political reform.
It makes my head spin this guy is soooo damn stupid. Has he never had a history class in his life? Has he never heard of The Federalist Papers? The Federalist Papers were an extremely important series of articles anonymously (at the time) drafted by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay, and were essential to the ratification of the United States Constitution. Oh wait, I forgot, these corporate tyrants don’t think much of the Constitution either, do they?
This jerk-off Google CEO needs to go back to summer-school and get a clue.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
He’s not supid, he’s trying to justify what they do. Spy for money.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
The “if you’re doing nothing wrong then you’ve nothing to hide” works ok, till you get the attention of the authorities. Once that happens, even the most innocent of searches or emails can then be twisted all out of context to what it was by those paid to be paranoid.
Look at the Amanda Knox trial, where she sends an email saying to the rough context of “catch you later”. A term then changed by the authorities to mean a midnight rendezvous instead of a sign off. She didn’t say “I’ll meet at *someplace* tonight. Yet that was how it was taken.
The same can happen to any of you. Catch a rouge malware, it inserts the url of a pedophile site in your computer, without you having gone there, all of a sudden you have the record of having been painted with the taint of such. Doesn’t matter you didn’t do it, it matters only that you have note in your computer of some known “problem site”.
Many are the examples of such happening. School site with a bad antivirus, bad network standards, a substitute teacher that doesn’t know computers well that’s been instructed not to turn it off. It’s loaded with malware which loads porn into it, the kids see it, and naturally the substitute is to blame. So much to blame, she’s taken to court, used as a scape goat to prevent the school from looking bad, convicted, and later the conviction is over turned. She was doing nothing wrong but doing her job. It is doubtful she will be able to ever again work at a school.
So much for the faith of “if you’ve done nothing wrong” theme.
December 8th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
You have no authority over me. What I do is my business, not yours. The “if you have nothing to hide, you don’t have to worry” chestnut is trying to change the subject! Who has the right to invade your privacy, particularly if you don’t have the right to invade theirs? Yeah, exactly.
December 8th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
To Eric Schmidt:
What we have to hide is not online and what are in store for corporate parasites such as you is not online either.
So continue waisting your time spying on the innocents and violating the constitution on line, you moron!
December 8th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
forget google then .startpage.com search engine does not log your searches its totaly private i use it myself
December 10th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Quote:Catch a rouge malware, it inserts the url of a pedophile site in your computer, without you having gone there, all of a sudden you have the record of having been painted with the taint of such. Doesn’t matter you didn’t do it, it matters only that you have note in your computer of some known “problem site”.
That very thing just happened here where I live.Seems the director of a Y.M.C.A youth center was accused of haveing child porn on his computer and after the News Media and the Police drug this poor guy through the mud and destroyed his life, family, and his named it was soon disclosed that he didn’t really have child porn on his computer it was just a “pop-up” from some porn site.So the media and the cops were like OPPS sorry bout your luck pal on to the next story.
people like this Google dude need to wake up.