Iraq insurgents hack US Predator drones
p2pnet news view | Security:- Iraq insurgents use software costing only a few dollars to hack live video feeds from remote-controlled US aerial surveillance drones.
“Shia fighters are said to have used off-the-shelf software programs such as SkyGrabber to capture the footage,” says the BBC.
The hacks were possible “because the remotely flown planes have an unprotected communications link,” it says.
Predators can fly for hours remotely controlled by pilots thousands of miles away, says the Telegraph, going on:
They can “fly armed or unarmed” and are “part of a growing arsenal of such craft that includes the Reaper and Raven as well as a new, high-tech video sensor system called the Gorgon Stare, being installed on Reapers.
“The military has known about the vulnerability for more than a decade, but assumed adversaries would not be able to exploit it.”
In December 2008, “the military apprehended a Shia militant in Iraq whose laptop contained files of intercepted drone video feeds,” it adds.
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BBC – Iraq insurgents ‘hack into video feeds from US drones’, December 17, 2009
Telegraph – Iraq insurgents hacked Predator drone video feed, December 17, 2009
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December 17th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
And still, some people think the idea that a US drone was flown into the Pentagon on 9/11 is too far-fetched.
[Yet, 2 Global Hawks (drones) just "disappeared" forever from inventory on that day.]
December 17th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
DA: The planes that hit the WTC sure as heck weren’t drones. You don’t need Global Hawks, the Boeing “Home Run System” (look it up) allows full computer control over flight parameters and has been around well over a decade. Combine this system with some custom middleware and suddenly hijacking drills (like the one James Woods witnessed Atta taking part in a few months previous) can be made very real by pre-programming the flight path toward whatever target is necessary. CIA dupes like Atta don’t need to be relied upon to fly accurately or even competently in order to make sure the operation goes off as planned.
The operation at the Pentagon only serves to muddy the waters. It gets people debating stuff that doesn’t have very much evidence in either direction. The real smoking gun was the obvious controlled demo of WTC building 7. Any fool can see that place was wired up beforehand. Maybe flight 93 was intended to hit it? Regardless, there’s good reason the corporate media hasn’t ever shown the WTC7 demo footage ONCE since that awful day, and why NIST (infested with political appointees) refuses to test WTC7 samples for trace amounts of explosives.
December 17th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
@Reader’s Write:
I never even mentioned the WTC, but you’ll get no argument from me on anything you’ve said, that’s for sure.
What I did say was that the Pentagon was most likely hit by a Global Hawk, as there isn’t any supporting evidence for a 757. But, yeah, it’s quite obvious the Pentagon hit, and the Shanksville crash were used to obscure things a little more.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:07 am
You people sound like all of those fruit cake democrapic party hippie conspiracy types such as Code Stinko and moveondot.org.
I suppose you people also believe in black helicopter theories or the communist antiwar hippie Cindy Sheenan.
Canada is (still) host to US Military service deserters and fucking hippie pussie cowards that did not want to fight.
Oh Yeah I suppose it’s all Donald Dumsfeld’s and George Bush’s fault…..
THE WTC WAS HIT BY BIN LADEN AND HIS DIAPERHEADED CRONIES AND NOTHING MORE.
As always antiwar hippies never know what their babbling about…………………….
The inmates are running the fucking asylum.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Operationally, Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
It was Khaled Sheik Mohammed, and he was captured long ago
December 18th, 2009 at 6:30 am
“And still, some people think the idea that a US drone was flown into the Pentagon on 9/11 is too far-fetched.
[Yet, 2 Global Hawks (drones) just "disappeared" forever from inventory on that day.]”
You are wrong on this one. There is one short video of something hitting the pentagon from the distance via a surveillance camera that was put on the internet. I have it somewhere.
By playing the movie frame by frame very slowly you see something very fuzzy that at first look like a missile.
When we compared the fuzzy image of the nose with the nose of the corresponding airplane it was supposed to be it matched perfectly well. And yes it was fuzzy because surveillance camera of this older type are very slow.
December 18th, 2009 at 11:55 am
You people are f*cking nuts.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
@EE:
“You people are f*cking nuts.”
Okay, you should qualify that.
Who’s “nuts”? And why?
December 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
“There is one short video of something hitting the pentagon from the distance via a surveillance camera that was put on the internet. I have it somewhere.”
There is no video.
There were only 5 FRAMES released, long after all the “Official Reports” were put out, even though the FBI had confiscated every surveillance video within any visibility radius (there were over 80) the day it happened. Every request to have any of it declassified has failed so far.
These frames are isolated and do not comprise any meaningful video footage. Many transition frames in between have been omitted.
There is, however, a “shadowy image” behind a post and a con-trail that are consistent in size and character to that of a Global Hawk. Someone even publicly demonstrated how the Hawk fit very well, and how a 757 obviously doesn’t. That someone was a former top Graphic Forensics expert for the US Army.
I could say much more, but I think I’ve already “evoked 9/11″ too much for this forum. The real topic, after all, was the Iraqi hacking of the drones’ surveillance systems. I just opened Pandora’s Box by pointing out the fact that these drones have been around for quite some time, yet people would refuse to believe they even existed, or deny their existence (depending on who was hearing it and why).
December 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
“The inmates are running the fucking asylum.”
Yeah, by the sounds of it, you must be the guy in charge!
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid!
December 18th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
“I could say much more, but I think I’ve already “evoked 9/11″ too much for this forum”
And that’s why Canadian antiwar hippies should not be talking shit…………..
3000 PEOPLE GET MURDERED BY ISLAMIC TERRORIST DIAPERHEADS AND THE LOONEY LEFT
STILL BABBLEs ABOUT CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
Don’t you people have any shame ?
leftist Codestinko hippies………..
December 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
^OMG!^
LMFAO!!
December 20th, 2009 at 8:25 am
@
Okay, you should qualify that.
Who’s “nuts”? And why?
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I’m seeing two types of nuts here.
The, the US government wanted to kill thousands of its own people because . The massive amount of evidence that has been gathered and released to the public is wrong because are in charge.
Let me spell this out for you. NO ONE wanted to go to Afghanistan. It’s a shit-hole. It’s hard to fight there. Many great civilizations have fallen because it’s so hard to wage war there. There is an argument for misleading the American people into Iraq however.
And then there’s the “everyone who disagrees with me is a communist” guy. The pure ignorance it takes to buy so far into a political movement that it defines your sense of right and wrong is mind-boggling.
How do you just turn off your brain? I don’t think I could refuse to think critically if I tried. At least the conspiracy people are thinking.
You sir are what is wrong with America.
December 20th, 2009 at 8:29 am
WordPress screwed up my first paragraph.
The, the US government wanted to kill thousands of its own people because /INSERT CRAZY ASS CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE/ . The massive amount of evidence that has been gathered and released to the public is wrong because /INSERT CRAZY ASS CONSPIRATORS THEORY HERE/ are in charge.
December 20th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
@EE:
Oh well, I guess that explains it, then!
All you’ve done is just repeat “some people are crazy”, in a few different ways, without actually saying who or why. (If you want to say it’s me that’s a whacko, go ahead! Really, I can take it.)
19 Arabs, armed with boxcutters, taking down America’s multi-billion-dollar defense system, and making 4 planes completely vaporize is a prime example of a “conspiracy theory”. I feel sorry for anyone who believes this, and accusing those of questioning it of being somehow “crazy”, “unpatriotic”, or “with the terrorists”, as they must have been living a pretty isolated and protected life.
The fact that you’d think there’s no US incentive to go to Afghanistan (9/11 or no 9/11) is a perfect demonstration that you have no idea what is going on. But to come out and say others, that don’t have your narrow view of the world, are buying into causes of ignorance just evokes pure pathos!
And, for your information, I’m not American.
You ought to know that, as you’ve been coming to this site for a while now. I’m just a Canadian who’s tired of the sheer, unadulterated bullshit people readily believe and defend, without any logical reasoning. 9/11 just succeeded in pointing this out very well, particularly in Americans, by the looks of it.
December 20th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
@DA
I know you’re not an American. You are not who I was referring to when I said “you are what’s wrong with America.” I thought it was clear that I was referring to “everyone who disagrees with me is a communist pinko” guy.
There’s enough crazy to go around and I’m pretty sure I was clear as to why. I am not pointing out names and could not if I wanted to because most of the comments are RW’s.
“I feel sorry for anyone who believes this, and accusing those of questioning it of being somehow “crazy”, “unpatriotic”, or “with the terrorists”, as they must have been living a pretty isolated and protected life.”
Keep questioning. If you got to the Americans did it to themselves from the evidence available then you haven’t asked enough questions yet. And speaking of pathos, from my perspective it appears that you want to blame Americans for 9/11, and many other things that go wrong in the world due to an obvious anti-American bias.
“The fact that you’d think there’s no US incentive to go to Afghanistan (9/11 or no 9/11) is a perfect demonstration that you have no idea what is going on.”
Afghanistan has no natural resources. It’s major crop is opium which the military and political leaders in their infinite wisdom have decided is okay unless it’s grown by the Taliban. It has little strategic value unless you’re planning on invading Iran. On that note, the Taliban are Iran’s enemy so having them in place would be to our advantage if that were the goal. Invading Afghanistan forced the US to cozy up to Pakistan, which complicates our relationship with India. If you weren’t keeping track, we like India. They’re like China without the human rights violations and the lack of women problem. Also, Indians are more likely to buy our stuff and less likely to steal our stuff like the Chinese.
Where’s this upside I’m missing?
December 20th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
@EE:
“You are not who I was referring to…”
Thank you for finally qualifying that.
I did ask you to say who, but when you didn’t, I kind of assumed you were talking to me. Much of what you said agreed with the idiot you were supposed to be addressing, and since I fit one of your “nut” descriptors, I called YOU out.
Honestly, I don’t see the difference in some of what you’ve said and what he’s said, except that you obviously sound more literate and coherent…
1. “If you got to the Americans did it to themselves…”
Never said that.
2. “…you want to blame Americans for 9/11…”
Never said that.
3. “…obvious anti-American bias…”
Go to any of my comments on any page on the web, and you won’t find one example of “anti-Americanism”. The only thing I’m guilty of is “anti-bullshit”, which I apply equally to all races, creeds, religions, countries, etc.
Pathos, Yes. I do find myself feeling very sorry for “flag wavers”, from any country, that blindly react to any criticisms of their GOVERNMENT’S behaviour as if it were a personal assault on the people themselves. Unfortunately, at the present, it’s Americans doing that, thanks to the endless lies, false flag activities, and this fraudulent “War on Terror” their government’s been feeding them for so long. Geez, your government’s been lying so much it can’t keep track of all its own stories.
4. “It has little strategic value unless you’re planning on invading Iran.”
You’re getting warm with this one!
I suspect your answer would be different than mine.)
But, its been in the works for years, and no secret to anyone who’s been paying even the slightest attention. (Hmmm, now why would the US want to invade Iran?! I wonder…
5. “It’s major crop is opium which the military and political leaders in their infinite wisdom have decided is okay unless it’s grown by the Taliban.”
Oh, you talkin’ about the CIA’s opium?!
Afghanistan didn’t have it before, and it’s amazing how so many Americans don’t know this.
6. “Indians are more likely to buy our stuff and less likely to steal our stuff like the Chinese.”
(Ya know, I’m not even going to ask.)
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A government that refuses to supply any real answers to all the hard questions, and continues to this day to fight against the efforts of those asking them, must be guilty. Do I blame its people?… NO! But they’re obviously asleep to the truth, and have been given a lot of help on that by those in power.
(Coming from the same man who wouldn’t even give any actual testimony to your 9/11 Commission…)
“Either you are with us, or you are with the TERRORISTS!”
“Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories…”
- George W. Bush
December 21st, 2009 at 10:41 am
1. You are implying that US global hawks were used in the attack. You most certainly did say that.
2. You are implying that US global hawks were used in the attack. You most certainly did say that.
3. see 1 and 2
4. The CIA has been working to sew dissent in Iran for years, not invasion preparation. Maybe Bush wanted to invade but that doesn’t address the fact that the Taliban was Iran’s ENEMY.
5. The CIA’s opium….. see “crazy ass conspiracy theory above.”
6. Maybe you should ask because the Chinese are not our favorite people and they are the 2 world powers rising in Asia.
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Our government did supply answers. We, the public they serve are satisfied in general. Also, I never voted for GW Bush.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:49 am
@EE:
Whether intentional or not, you’re confusing the issue of “blaming Americans” (the People), or pointing fingers at their government. I’ll just sum it up for you anyway…
I said there was pretty convincing EVIDENCE of a Global Hawk, that’s all. But, I do agree that the evidence appears very solid.
Am I blaming the citizens for anything?… No!
Am I blaming the US Government?… Yes. More to the point, I’m saying a false flag operation was conducted in the US, against its own citizens, by its own Government. (Whether it “had help” in the matter is not a question I was addressing, in case that’s important.)
That’s not an expression of any prejudice you might think I’d be holding for its people, which I called “anti-Americanism”. I have some pretty serious charges I would like to launch at my own government on the same subject – doesn’t make me “anti-Canadian”. That’s because real “patriotism” means questioning the actions of your own government – a complete contrast to the message American citizens have been getting for a long time.
As to Iran, it hasn’t exactly been a secret that Iran has been a target for US invasion. So were Iraq and Afghanistan. Much of that was already declassified, and were a part of a great deal of war planning in your own PNAC document (“Project for a New American Century”) penned by George Sr., Cheney, and a few of the other usual suspects, who were all known oil barons and war industrialists.
Interestingly enough, that same document (PNAC) also called for a “catalysing event… like a new Pearl Harbour” to justify this invasion.
You need only hear the words of your own Lindsey Williams (Google him and “Energy Non-Crisis”, if you dare), to understand why your armies are really over there. Much of it has been known in Canada for a while, but it appears some of our neighbours to the south have some catching up to do on this.
As for the opium, that’s been declassified as well.
I can only urge you to look it up before labelling it “tinfoil”.
There are many public reports available showing how opium was introduced to Afghanistan by your own CIA.
As to the answers you say you got from your government, you got shit and you know it!
You got a 571-page document that started with a false premise (“19 Arabs with boxcutters”), and then simply did what was possible to support that premise, while completely omitting many things they couldn’t begin to explain (like the fall of WTC7, or how all the box columns in the Towers came apart or disappeared so easily). Even your own Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, who conducted the Commission that wrote the report are now publicly saying it’s all a farse, even writing books to that effect!
Whether you believe it or not, your government has been very busy for a number of years engineering the demise of the Middle East, at the behest of the world’s elite, in order to continue American dependence on foreign oil, and devaluate its own currency, while hiding what could be the world’s largest oil supply in history, in your own state of Alaska.
You’re either following it, or you’re not, in which case a lot of it would seem pretty “wild” when you hear it. Doesn’t mean the one telling you is “out to lunch”, but that would seem to be the most “convenient” way for some to react to it.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
If he was leaking the domestic wire tap documents he’s a hero.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Ignore my previous post…. wrong story