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	<title>Comments on: French 3 strikes law now in effect</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994605</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this totally ridiculous when you consider that even if you killed a pop star, you’d get a chance of a reprieve after 15 years, but if you downloaded three of their songs, you’re off the net for life.

Oh Well! There is many way to access the internet without paying an ISP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this totally ridiculous when you consider that even if you killed a pop star, you’d get a chance of a reprieve after 15 years, but if you downloaded three of their songs, you’re off the net for life.</p>
<p>Oh Well! There is many way to access the internet without paying an ISP.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994604</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are services that are designed with anonymity in mind, and one such service is Tor. Yup, it is not useful for torrenting, but it is designed around anonymity.&quot;


TOR bring you back to dialup speed at the moment still good enough to download music files even entire album.

But If more people join TOR the speed will increase.

Just try TOR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are services that are designed with anonymity in mind, and one such service is Tor. Yup, it is not useful for torrenting, but it is designed around anonymity.&#8221;</p>
<p>TOR bring you back to dialup speed at the moment still good enough to download music files even entire album.</p>
<p>But If more people join TOR the speed will increase.</p>
<p>Just try TOR!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994571</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you all just stop mentioning VPNs as anonymity solutions, because they are NOT!

They are anonymous by policy, because the owner chooses not to log specific accesses and the users chose to trust the owner not to do it. If the VPN service owner has the ability to log accesses, they can be forced to do so with a National Security Letter or something similar (everyone has to &quot;think about the children&quot;, right?). VPNs are not anonymous.

There are services that are designed with anonymity in mind, and one such service is Tor. Yup, it is not useful for torrenting, but it is designed around anonymity.

https://blog.torproject.org/blog/anonymity-design-versus-policy

I wish people stopped posting full DVDs and instead posted rips that are encoded as efficiently as possible to reduce file size. Then they won&#039;t strain the &quot;anonymity by policy&quot; networks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you all just stop mentioning VPNs as anonymity solutions, because they are NOT!</p>
<p>They are anonymous by policy, because the owner chooses not to log specific accesses and the users chose to trust the owner not to do it. If the VPN service owner has the ability to log accesses, they can be forced to do so with a National Security Letter or something similar (everyone has to &#8220;think about the children&#8221;, right?). VPNs are not anonymous.</p>
<p>There are services that are designed with anonymity in mind, and one such service is Tor. Yup, it is not useful for torrenting, but it is designed around anonymity.</p>
<p><a href="https://blog.torproject.org/blog/anonymity-design-versus-policy" rel="nofollow">https://blog.torproject.org/blog/anonymity-design-versus-policy</a></p>
<p>I wish people stopped posting full DVDs and instead posted rips that are encoded as efficiently as possible to reduce file size. Then they won&#8217;t strain the &#8220;anonymity by policy&#8221; networks.</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomcast (aka Andrew)</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994548</link>
		<dc:creator>Comeoncomcast (aka Andrew)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol Jon ignore email ;)

Id love to hear what the EU DG has to say about this :D haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Jon ignore email <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Id love to hear what the EU DG has to say about this <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  haha</p>
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		<title>By: MD1500</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994534</link>
		<dc:creator>MD1500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loathe Three Strikes but prefer the French version of it to the proposed UK law. At least disconnection from the Internet is only for one year there. Here, it&#039;s life.

I find this totally ridiculous when you consider that even if you killed a pop star, you&#039;d get a chance of a reprieve after 15 years, but if you downloaded three of their songs, you&#039;re off the net for life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loathe Three Strikes but prefer the French version of it to the proposed UK law. At least disconnection from the Internet is only for one year there. Here, it&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>I find this totally ridiculous when you consider that even if you killed a pop star, you&#8217;d get a chance of a reprieve after 15 years, but if you downloaded three of their songs, you&#8217;re off the net for life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994495</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RW: &quot;Jon, sorry to contradict you&quot;

I&#039;m very happy to be contradicted. Do you have links for this?

Cheers! And thanks ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ RW: &#8220;Jon, sorry to contradict you&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very happy to be contradicted. Do you have links for this?</p>
<p>Cheers! And thanks &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994494</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, sorry to contradict you but the law is not yet into effect. It&#039;s application decrees have not been published yet, and the CNIL (national commission for computers and liberties) wants to review certain points and they also need to read the decrees for that. Incidentally, there are regional elections in three months and the president of the CNIL belongs to the party of Sarkozy, so one might wonder if they&#039;re not pushing the application of the law for after the elections. Let alone the fact that the security software that users should be able to get (buy) that would protect them from the piracy claims of HADOPI is still &quot;under work&quot; and nobody saw anything about it so far. 

The law won&#039;t go in effect before April, and even after that it won&#039;t be enforceable anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, sorry to contradict you but the law is not yet into effect. It&#8217;s application decrees have not been published yet, and the CNIL (national commission for computers and liberties) wants to review certain points and they also need to read the decrees for that. Incidentally, there are regional elections in three months and the president of the CNIL belongs to the party of Sarkozy, so one might wonder if they&#8217;re not pushing the application of the law for after the elections. Let alone the fact that the security software that users should be able to get (buy) that would protect them from the piracy claims of HADOPI is still &#8220;under work&#8221; and nobody saw anything about it so far. </p>
<p>The law won&#8217;t go in effect before April, and even after that it won&#8217;t be enforceable anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Sprat</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994491</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Sprat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens if the judge only imposes a fine? Do the three strikes reset?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens if the judge only imposes a fine? Do the three strikes reset?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/33294/comment-page-1#comment-994486</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is “expected that 95 per cent of people who receive a second written warning will stop”, it says.&quot;

No. 

What will hapen is that after the first warning 99.9% of people wil go anonymous by using an open proxy, a VPN service such as predator, TOR, Syphon or will use an anonymous p2p software such as Winny, Mute or Ant.

As fare as Tor is concerned it is a good news since the more users there is the faster the network goes.

Oh! and I forgot the WIFI p2p applications that does not even required an ISP monitored or not. This one too become fadster with more users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is “expected that 95 per cent of people who receive a second written warning will stop”, it says.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. </p>
<p>What will hapen is that after the first warning 99.9% of people wil go anonymous by using an open proxy, a VPN service such as predator, TOR, Syphon or will use an anonymous p2p software such as Winny, Mute or Ant.</p>
<p>As fare as Tor is concerned it is a good news since the more users there is the faster the network goes.</p>
<p>Oh! and I forgot the WIFI p2p applications that does not even required an ISP monitored or not. This one too become fadster with more users.</p>
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