They could abolish the idea of having the internet alltogether, and still we will sit and moan, they could up the prices of CD’s, cassettes, DVDs, Videos, Records, anything and we will still rant. They could lower them similarly, and we will still rant on.

See some people make billions from a movie, which takes a few months, maybe a year or two of hard work…

I will soon stop going to school every day, and working at burger king every weekend, and move on to some other job, and then die. And within the many years of my lifetime i will not make anything like the money other people make.

So why not lay off and let us have our fun…

Even if you did take my internet off me, and i wasn’t able to download anything, it wouldn’t make me think ‘Oh! I better go and buy it now.’

Infact it would probably make me work the time i wasn’t listening/watching/playing…

DAmn

Every .torrent is listed SOMEWHERE and within a default range of ports. Further, the packets must be somehow identifiable.

Now, your argument is a good one, but how come all the gnutella clients (bearshare, limewire, etc) aren’t blocked?

Cuz it’s the ISP’s that would have to do it.

ISP’s already can identify who is sharing a .torrent, and it’s pretty easy to do. Currently, there are no secure .torrent clients that I am aware of, unlike awesome tools like filetopia, that encrypt all P2P traffic in hashes with YOUR favourite encryption, vice some default only.

Still, someone should think about this…. .torrent is sooo much better at file sharing than other P2P’s… maybe the gunutella clients will add this feature in? hmmm who knows.

Of course, the gnutella network is a great place to START seeding your torrents!!!!

Of course, the whole “search” thing, makes me think that the .torrents are at least listed in a tracker… right??? These trackers are NOT neccissarily part of the websites that index and search them. They are just listing known/previous .torrents.

So the thing would be to build a tool that queries the .torrents trackers, maybe even all the p2p nets for relavent links, hell, even google for that matter; do some magic (like pinging the file to see if it’s active, etc), and release it as open source.

I do not know by which means the above mentioned Perl script found the game servers on the LAN but I imagine it would be checking either for open ports with services running on them (correct me please if i am wrong). Or otherwise maybe some sort of packet sniffing variant (which I think may be illegal in some countries).

If this is the case then this proposed .torrent tool would in effect give the MPAA and RIAA the perfect tool for chasing down and prosecuting ‘offenders’!

I would like to note that this post is merely stream of conciousness babble as, currently, I have no really deep knowledge of the technology behind networking, only a general idea… I just thought I would sling my voice into the foray!

Happy P2Ping

Open source that bad boy, and we’ll at least free up a lot of people from this idiocy. Keeping lists of links (like lokitorrent and others, akin to yahoo) is what gets these people in hot water.

We need a base for a new tool. Perhaps it’s even possible to do this from the existing codebases. Hell, I knew a guy that created a pearl script to search for game servers on our lan, in about 10 minutes.

I see no reason why someone with the requisite skills couldn’t just code up a basic tool to search for the files, and then list them in a GUI output. Release this under FOSS/GNU style licensing, and the MPAA and RIAA can’t really sue anyone can they?

What the US users should do is this, band together as suggested elsewhere and form a lobby or pressure group to influence the members of the houses, not all Senator’s and Governor’s agree to what the MPAA and RIAA are doing and many are aware of the illegality of their current campaigns in overseas nations.

Fight fire with fire, these organisations invade peoples machines with their scans, it opens the gambit somewhat and whats sauce for the goose….

I am surprised that no-one has worked out that the MPAA and RIAA’s tool of warfare and detection is the internet, without a valid and reliable system to prove things would make their tasks more difficult.

What the two organisations is defending is similar to the Union created closed shops, the MPAA and RIAA both savagely defend their right to monopolise, price fix and milk the system for every penny it can at maximum bloated profits that rarely see its way to the creative people in any case. The companies behind the two cartels on average take between 70-80% of earnings.

Sony is also a company that is milking it both ends, it supplies the industry with technology to create DVD’s and such and also is recompsated for loss of earnings yet the levies imposed on the industry is taken as a tax hike so Sony get paid a lovely double payday, this is what the levy on burners is supposed to put right, why isn’t anyone saying, right, the Bit-torrent situation is much less so the levy should be much lower, no-one will because corporations are so used to taking BUT never giving.

People are sick to death of receiving drivel and being charged a fortune to be given the privilige and again the MPAA should be using this situation as a means of quality assessment and make changes within the industry.

Both organisations began dropping personal vendetta’s against individuals simply because the populace would not stand to watch more twelve year olds or college kids or other minnows in this pond get fried by mulltibillion dollar industries but I would put hard money that once they start to lay their hands on IP logs and email databases this could change.

I am also most surprised that neither have attempted the link to terrorism, it seems to open doors for virtually anyone else and despite the lame attempt recently to try and claim Bit-Torrent was a servery for child pornography, what let this down is that in the end of it it is superbly proven that terrorist materials or child pornography is not tolerated in the Bittorrent community.

So I would say that a supreme effort from all would see a blow to their plans, they have money, the US users have voting power and boycotting power, protesting and demonstrating power even, the MPAA and RIAA cannot move very quickly but the users can, the two orgs have defined this on a war footing, fine, then lets make sure that they know we are aware of this and fight back.

I was rather amazed in conclusion the disparaging comments against Loki on SuprNova forum, because Loki has asked for money to fight back, it showed a double hypocrisy that people are always willing to leech but never seed.

Good luck to Loki

AO
find the AO on Loki….

or you can just sit back and bitch, like i do, making no real difference.

eh, feel free to delete this if it sounds too much like a rant, it kind of is.