Edgar Bronfman jr says ‘Poo’ to streaming
p2pnet view Music | P2P:- “Just because you WANT really badly for something to be true, in order to suit a proposed business model, isn’t enough to actually MAKE it true. Instead of trying to ‘rebuild’ all the old ideas so that they (appear to) fit the new environment, people should be simply moving on, and building on the realities of the new environment.
“The Internet is not a radio or TV network, and you cannot convert it to either one. It is not a ‘broadcast medium’ of any kind. The quicker everyone wraps their heads around this and accepts the fact, the quicker the solutions to the current problems will surface.”
That was p2pnet regular Devil’s Advocate, recently. Subject? Streaming.
Not only but also, if you can see it or hear it — OR stream it — you can copy it.
Period.
With that in the background, troubled Warner Music says it’s going to stop licensing its songs to free music streaming services.
So there!
“Companies like Spotify, We7 and Last.fm give free, legal and instant access to millions of songs, funded by adverts”, says the BBC.
Actually, they don’t “give” anything, and it isn’t free. Users have to watch advertisements chosen not by them, but by the companies touting them, to get their music fixes.
Anyway, “The get all your music you want for free, and then maybe with a few bells and whistles we can move you to a premium price strategy, is not the kind of approach to business that we will be supporting in the future”, the story has “Canada’s Edgar Bronfman jr, second left and pictured with family members.
He’s the man in charge of Big 4 organised music cartel member Warner and “is not clear whether Warner will remove its music from existing services or decline to do deals with new outlets”, says the story
The focus would be on “streaming services that require payment, which he said could appeal beyond those who currently pay for downloads in stores such as Apple’s iTunes”, says the BBC, continuing >>>
Fans could pay a monthly fee direct to a streaming service, as with Spotify, or get access to the music as part of a deal for a mobile phone, broadband connection or another gadget.
Such subscriptions could be taken up by “hundreds of millions if not billions of people, most of whom are not today either buyers or certainly heavy buyers of music”, Mr Bronfman said.
[Dream, on, Edgar. Dream on.]
And they would be much more profitable than per-track downloads in the long term, he added.
The main legal streaming services have deals with most major and independent record labels and pay royalties for each song played.
But the amount is far less than a label would earn if that song was downloaded or if they got a slice of a listener’s monthly subscription.
Did we mention if you can see it or hear it — OR stream it — you can copy it?
..… and identi.ca
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win ~ Mahatma Gandhi
Streaming – There’s no such thing as ’streaming’: Part II, December 7, 2009
BBC – Warner to quit free music streaming, February 10, 2010
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February 10th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
He’s probably feeling his oats because of the EMI thing.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
…And, the quicker everybody realizes there’s no such thing as “streaming” over the Internet, the better!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
http://seekingalpha.com/article/187591-warner-music-group-f1q10-qtr-end-12-31-09-earnings-call-transcript?page=-1
February 10th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
I used to tape am/fm radio but soon got bored of the tedium, same with recording free streams, in the end its to much work to record real time. i’d rather pay a subscription fee for convience than spend all my time recording things.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
sing a different song Dave.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
It’s been a decade since the original Napster, and I’m stunned that the music industry still haven’t realised that the only thing that can possibly compete with illegal P2P services is a legal P2P service, where people can download what they want for a monthly fee. Until they provide one, there is no hope for them.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
MD1500, a pay P2P service wouldn’t compete, when allofmp3 was around people still downloaded for free from each other rather than use that service, despite the price and terms being right.
The only way to compete with illegal p2p is to give stuff away for free. Sure if you offer a legal service that doesn’t cost stupid amounts of money per track (like every legal service currently does) or have onerous terms and stupid DRM on a monthly fee (like the rest of the thin herd of legal services have) you will lure some customers from the murky world of p2p copyright infringement.
The main problem the pigopolists have is that they don’t understand that the populace are onto their scam, we are waking up to how they are, and have been for years, systematically stealing and pirating our culture and heritage. We are tired of copyright for life plus however many years they have extended things too through bribery this month. We are tired of being sold the same content in different formats over and over again. We are tired of being treated like an imagined giant cash cow. We are tired of being told we are in the wrong because we can see what they are doing is morally abhorrent and refuse to take part in the process they have laid out for us. We are tired of the corporations.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
i use frostwire from time to time but i like the convience of subscription, sue me!