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Corporate Persons: I

p2pnet view P2P:- Yesterday I did a post on what appears to me to be a massive abuse on the part of Google to use the Vancouver winter Olypmics to further its own corporate interests.

“This seems as non-issue”, says Klimax in a Reader’s Write.

It may seem that way to you, Klimax, but obviously, it doesn’t seem that way to me.

I’m sure all kinds of businesses and other concerns would like the same kind of completely free reign Google has been granted.

Or was it simply purloined and the Vancouver authorities have let it go because Google is so Powerful? So Visible?  So Google?

Are they simply afraid to tell Google to bugger off?

Check out its latest logo below.

Grandiose.

Too strong a word?

But could it be any more so?

It seems to imply Google is Canada’s Winter Olympics.

Now it’s zooming around games areas, snapping pix and splashing them all over Google-owned properties, drawing in hundreds of million of people to its corporate products.

And all for free.

If Google was Good …

“Aren’t there better things to go against?” – Klimax asks.

Google could be everything it seems to be — a good company providing genuine services.

It could revolutionise the world of business by being completely transparent in all respects, completely open in its dealings with the people it depends on — you and I — and completely up-front about what it does and how it does it. It certainly has enough in the way of hard cash and other resources to  get away with it.

Does it want our data? It certainly does. Then why doesn’t it simply ask for it, telling us why it needs it and what it’d do with it if we gave it to them.

I know. That’s naive. It has to compete. It and its advertisers have to persuade us one identical product or service is better than another identical product or service.

To me Google seems devious and sly. In fact, it seems to me to personify most of the things any citizen, especially a corporate person, shouldn’t be.

I guess I’m hot on Google in particular because it is so transparent, but not in a good way; and, because it affects the world not only online, but off, in a way very few other conglomerates do, and in so many ways.

But I wouldn’t want Klimax to believe just because I focus on Google I think it’s alone. I don’t. In p2pnet I also light up quite a few other corporate entities individually and as groups, especially when children are concerned.

However, Google has managed to hoist itself to a position of preeminence, and so it gets much of the attention.

‘A psychopath is also a grandiose individual’

I wonder if Klimax has ever seen The Corporation? It’s a fascinating Canadian documentary describing how corporations came into being and how they acquired the status of ‘personhood’.

There’s a web site with materials and transcripts and it’s a must for anyone who’s as concerned as I am about the way not only Google, but numerous other corporations, have taken control of our lives and the world we live in.

Below is an item I found really interesting.

In the resources section, there’s a view from Dr Robert D. Hare, a University of British Columbia psychology professor who’s also the FBI’s “Top Consulting Psychologist on Psychopaths”.

“We can go through the characteristics that define this particular disorder one by one and see how they might apply to corporations”, he says, going on >>>

For example the first one would be from the screening version, the short version of the PCLR, psychopathy checklist, would be superficial relations. The psychopath’s relations with others are superficial, surface, very, very little depth, mostly style over substance. And the idea is to impress other individuals to somehow put them in a position where you can manipulate them and so forth.

And a corporation I would imagine would be not unlike that in many respects. They would have public relations firms. They would be spending half their time and a lot of their budget in trying to present a particular image to other people. And this image is a very superficial, you never really get to know the real corporation. You’re going to see what they want you to see.

A psychopath is also a grandiose individual, has a very powerful sense of self, believes that he or she is the centre of the universe, better, smarter than everybody else. Corporations I suppose almost by their very nature would have to adopt this particular attitude. If they took the stance that they were in fact inferior to every other company they’d probably not going to get very far. So I imagine that they would spend an awful lot of time explaining to others and to themselves that we’re number one, we’re the best.

The psychopath is also very manipulative. Tends to manipulate, con and deceive other people, to try and mold them into something that they can use. Remember the psychopath is really a predator and as a predator you’re trying to groom and put your prey in the right position for where you can make some use of the, of this particular object is the way they would see them.

Would a corporation be the same? To a very large extent I would imagine so because what you’re trying to do is manipulate everything including public opinion, for one thing. And imagine in a sales meeting where you’re trying to get everybody pumped up, you’ve got to have to, you know rah, rah. You’ve got to manipulate and get them into a position where they actually believe in something that they may not have believed in before.

A psychopath lacks empathy. And this simply means that it’s very difficult or impossible for a psychopath to put himself inside the emotional skin of somebody else. They may understand at some sort of superficial level that this person is going through what could be construed as an emotion by other people but I don’t understand what it is. This is a psychopath’s position.

Would a company, or a corporation actually lack empathy? Well maybe by definition they would have to. If you’re concerned about the fate of your competitors and also the general public you may not have profits that are so respectable. So I suppose a corporation could lack empathy in the sense that the psychopath does.

Lacks remorse is another characteristic that defines psychopathy. That is, having done something you don’t feel badly about it. A corporation I would imagine would be much the same. Unless one is caught, now a psychopath who is caught for committing a crime the first thing he’ll say is yeah I’m really sorry, I did it. I feel remorse. But only when caught and I imagine at most corporations it would be much the same. If some sort of regulatory body finds out what you’re doing and if it’s considered to be illegal, I would imagine that they would say well yes I am, we’re really sorry. But otherwise you’re not likely to do that.

Psychopath doesn’t accept responsibility for his or her own behaviour. Usually diffusion of responsibility is the name of the game for the psychopath. Somebody else made me do it, it wasn’t my fault, it was fate. And I’m not really responsible.

Corporations would do this almost routinely I would imagine. In fact, they would have public relations personnel whose only job is to make sure that this, this image is portrayed to the general public. As yes somebody else, it was fate, it was a political decision, or it wasn’t our, the market suddenly crashed, and there was a war in some other place and this accounted for everything.

Psychopaths tend to be impulsive but in a fairly controlled sense. That is most psychopaths are not going to do things if there’s an external control present. Psychopaths stand on the street corner is not going to commit a crime with the policeman standing right next to him. On the other hand if the policeman is not there, if the external control is not there, then it’s possible that he or she will do whatever he feels like doing if he has a chance of getting away with it.

Are corporations impulsive? It’s difficult to actually evaluate this but I would imagine so in some cases, particularly if the corporation is not well structured. If the rules and the, of behaviour and the hierarchal structure is not firmly in place then it would very possible for a corporation to be, to act impulsively. Of course if you do this then, then you run the risk of actually experiencing fairly serious losses.

Psychopaths don’t have long term goals most of their, the things that they’re striving for are short term. You could refer to it as a short term form of hedonism. And corporations I imagine are much the same way. In fact, one could argue that
sacrificing short term profits for the long term potential of making profits would not be in the company’s best interest. So almost by their very nature they would have to lack long term goals.

Now some corporations of course would have a long term strategy. But at the same time it would have the short term goals that are firmly in place. They’ve got to go to the next stockholders’ meeting for example and show that there’s a profit.

Poor behavioural controls, is another characteristic that defines a psychopath. These are individuals who are likely to lose their temper very easily, to strike out and do things that are fairly irrational in the short term. But they do it in a very controlled manner. They know what they’re doing. It could be a reaction to frustration and so forth.

Corporations, this is very difficult for me to evaluate this, to translate it directly in to corporate field. I suppose it could be possible but I’d have to think about that for some, you know for another four or five years I think.

Psychopaths tend to be irresponsible. And that means that their behaviour doesn’t take into account what’s likely to happen to somebody else. They will put others at risk, their own behaviour puts other people at risk all the time. This could be in driving, it could be in their personal relations, or anything they do in their general life.

And corporations I imagine could be irresponsible in exactly the same way. That is in an attempt to satisfy the corporate goal, everybody else is put at risk. This could be other companies. As a matter of fact, I suppose one could argue that this is good in the business sense. I mean if your competitors fall by the wayside because you are acting irresponsibly with respect to them, that’s good as long as you get some sort of goal out of that, some sort of benefit.

Psychopaths also tend to engage in behaviour that is anti-social, or at least asocial from a very early age, and this continues on throughout most of the lifespan. And by this I mean their behaviour is not necessarily criminal in the strict sense of the term. But in fact it’s harmful to other people, other individuals. It may not take into account the fact that your behaviour is going to have negative consequences for somebody else.

Corporations could be much the same. And this ties in with irresponsibility to a certain extent. What they’re doing with respect to the general public and to other companies would clearly be looked at, viewed as, or construed as asocial, or anti-social. We just don’t really care.

How many corporations does this fit?

The major movie and music companies, certainly. The ‘trade’ companies which work for them? For sure.

Big tobacco?

The major pharmaceuticals?

Stay tuned.

Jon Newton - p2pnet

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5 Responses to “Corporate Persons: I”

  1. Crosbie Fitch Says:

    I came up with a partial solution to corporate psychopathy, at least in terms of their predations against individuals:
    ACACIA.

  2. Jon Says:

    ^^

    Here are Crosbie’s suggestions:

      ACACIA · Monday August 13, 2007 by Crosbie Fitch
      A Corporation And Citizen Isolation Amendment

      1. Corporation may not sue citizen
      2. Citizen may not sue corporation

      Inspiration

      Acacia flower with thorns
      The precious flower of the individual needs thorns to protect it against corporate grip.

      Moreover

      * If a citizen wishes to sue a corporation they can incorporate themselves to do so.
      * If a corporation wishes to sue a citizen it can encourage, finance and capitalise the incorporation of the citizen – but, only if the citizen wishes (to have themselves represented by a congruent corporation).
      * Corporations may not otherwise sponsor citizens.
      * Citizens may not be incorporated against their will
      * A citizen may not represent a corporation.
      * A corporation may not represent a citizen unless it is specially created to do so.
      * The term ‘affiliation of citizens’ may also be substituted in the above for ‘citizen’.

      Purpose

      ACACIA is a proposal for a constitutional amendment, but can be used as a principle in the interim by those who support it and wish to adhere to it on a conscientious basis.

      Motivation

      * To prevent citizens sufffering unethical litigation for enjoying their cultural freedom by sharing and building upon published works.
      * To at least revert copyright and patent back to their more appropriate status as commercial privileges and monopolies to be enjoyed by corporations against other corporations – not against citizens.
      * To provide a simple protocol that can be followed without subjective analysis to improve constitutional protection of civil liberties.
      * To rectify the recognition of corporations as distinct entities from human beings, with analogous and alternative privileges to the human rights of citizens, rather than the same rights.
      * To help guard against the law being exploited by corporations to subjugate the citizenry.
      * To ensure litigation only occurs between entities of equal natures, that constraints and penalties intended for corporations are not levied against citizens, and vice versa.

      Application

      If you are a lawyer do not take on any cases between corporations and citizens.

      By all means encourage citizens to become incorporated.

    Cheers

  3. Dr Phil Says:

    The trouble is, there are no nice young men in clean white coats to take Google away.

  4. Klimax Says:

    Thanks for such large scale reply,Jon. (Didn’t expect…)

    I’ll check out “The Corporation”. As for applying psychology and psychiatry to companies,especially large ones is not best thing.
    (And some of psychopath-like traits are simply caused by corporation containing large number of people,each seeing only their work and only top can see whole picture,but to survive in relatively free market is to surpass competition.)

    Altough corporations are systems with various feedbacks similar to human beings,we cannot apply same analytical tools like psychology to them. They are more complex with large numbers of individuals influencing it.

    As for olypics games. My thought was: Too large to ignore any break of rules => quick path to court and loss of money.
    If they found hole or got to content other ways,why not.(Like getting real journalists and/or newspapers and such organisations, accredited)

    For some reason ACACIA seems to be redundant and/or missing point. But maybe it is just my own background…

    ===

    Curiously enough,we had one state corporation attempting to subvert laws and act very bad way.
    Name:ČEZ (checz energy company)
    Action:Shutting down electricity to accused of stealing electricity;gettin them at three o’clock to “interogation room” for “questioning”
    Gov action:Investigation. and possible punisment of individuals in the team. Possible kick out of CEO. //required change in Gov.
    Duration:4 years until investigation

    ====

    Anyway thanks for interesting viewpoint. (includes subsequent posts)

  5. Jon Says:

    @ Klimax:

    Thank you for getting me going. :)

    I understand what you mean and actually, corporations aren’t ‘people’; they’re self-propagating organisms with frightening, and easily aroused, self-defence mechanisms.

    But since Google insists on trying to falsely present itself as a caring, sharing ‘person’ with a soul, I thought I’d treat it as such.

    Cheers!

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