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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-11202</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these two are full of it. Are you guys sure you&#039;re not RIAA schmucks posing as &quot;underground&quot; types? cause your &quot;piece&quot; sure reads like it. Are these two well known in the community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these two are full of it. Are you guys sure you&#8217;re not RIAA schmucks posing as &#8220;underground&#8221; types? cause your &#8220;piece&#8221; sure reads like it. Are these two well known in the community?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8976</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 04:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Ripmap.org that look intresting and no adware, spyware etc
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Ripmap.org that look intresting and no adware, spyware etc</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8938</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slocek is a greedy prick, dam right, the dude made a fortune, and pulled the plug now he&#039;s got a few million, he left college and now has devoted time into eXeem to make even more, greedy bastard, fuck SloCek yer dutch prick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slocek is a greedy prick, dam right, the dude made a fortune, and pulled the plug now he&#8217;s got a few million, he left college and now has devoted time into eXeem to make even more, greedy bastard, fuck SloCek yer dutch prick</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8936</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Id estimate $100,000 per month.  Sloncek got scared of being sued for all of it</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8880</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No, we will not see any revenue from eXeem.&quot;

Really? Then why do you censor information that puts eXeem in a bad light?

&quot;We just help run the communty we have and when someone blasts us for eXeem being a sellout, we are pretty much forced to ban them off the IRC network on our bosses behalf.&quot;

If you have a boss you are being paid.
Therefore you are working for someone.

&quot;Also if anyone mentions any links for eXlite, thats an instant server ban given right there.&quot;

Why? Afraid of people finding alternatives?

&quot;I stand strong, and know that Cydoor sucks.&quot;

Strong for what? Or rather for whom?
You stand up for Cydoor even though it sucks?
Shouldn&#039;t you be standing strong for the users?

&quot;Even though I do have opinions against any Spyware/Adware, I cannot voice them, which is why I am being anonymous.&quot;

Which means you are putting your morals aside.
I hope it&#039;s worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, we will not see any revenue from eXeem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Then why do you censor information that puts eXeem in a bad light?</p>
<p>&#8220;We just help run the communty we have and when someone blasts us for eXeem being a sellout, we are pretty much forced to ban them off the IRC network on our bosses behalf.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you have a boss you are being paid.<br />
Therefore you are working for someone.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also if anyone mentions any links for eXlite, thats an instant server ban given right there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why? Afraid of people finding alternatives?</p>
<p>&#8220;I stand strong, and know that Cydoor sucks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Strong for what? Or rather for whom?<br />
You stand up for Cydoor even though it sucks?<br />
Shouldn&#8217;t you be standing strong for the users?</p>
<p>&#8220;Even though I do have opinions against any Spyware/Adware, I cannot voice them, which is why I am being anonymous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which means you are putting your morals aside.<br />
I hope it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8873</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to www.sourceforge.net and search for P2P. You&#039;ll find loads of apps without ads or spyware.


Also, Cydoor is bad. Spyware in general is bad.
I believe anyone who thinks otherwise is at the peak of ignorance.
I wrote an article on eXeem myself on 666forums.tk (Yes, I am DaBlade =), and I&#039;m a friend of JFM, who wrote this. I can&#039;t believe people actually defend sellouts who produce spywareinfested shit. It&#039;s appaling to see such a hype for eXeem. Seriously dudes, if you&#039;re gonna use windoze, at least try to keep it clean for spyware. Personally, I think decentralized BitTorrent is a good idea, if it&#039;s encrypted.
It&#039;s not, so this is basically what Sloncek (who&#039;s real name is Andrej Preston BTW) did.
He closed his site, saying that he&#039;s making a new P2P protocol.
He makes a deal with the devil (CyDoor).
He makes a deal with some company called Swarm Systems, who are of course impossible to track down anywhare.
He knows that as a BT site owner, he has a large problem. Legal liablility. 
He can be sued for owning a BT site. (It wasn&#039;t even a tracker. It just collected torrents from other sites, hosted them on their servers and made torrent hotlinking impossible.)
He knows that if he&#039;s has a decentralized network, but still not encrypted, the legal liability gets shifted over to the users. And there&#039;s where CyDoor comes in. He has probably making a lot of money from advertisements on SuprNova.org, despite the enormous bandwidth pressure the servers must have had to handle. In order for that money to keep flowing, and still not be legally liable, he adds CyDoor to the app.
In my opinion, there should not be made eXeem &#039;lite&#039;s (even if there is one already). There should not even be made Open Source eXeem clients. 
The entire eXeem network should be dumped, and a new network, that is open source, and encrypted should be created. Just like OpenFT. FastTrack started sucking, and the Lite clients couldn&#039;t fix the problems so the giFT network gets created. Open source, highly improved FastTrack.
Those were my two cents. 
Oh, and Andrej, if you&#039;re reading this: Feel free to flame me again on 666FS. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to <a href="http://www.sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourceforge.net</a> and search for P2P. You&#8217;ll find loads of apps without ads or spyware.</p>
<p>Also, Cydoor is bad. Spyware in general is bad.<br />
I believe anyone who thinks otherwise is at the peak of ignorance.<br />
I wrote an article on eXeem myself on 666forums.tk (Yes, I am DaBlade =), and I&#8217;m a friend of JFM, who wrote this. I can&#8217;t believe people actually defend sellouts who produce spywareinfested shit. It&#8217;s appaling to see such a hype for eXeem. Seriously dudes, if you&#8217;re gonna use windoze, at least try to keep it clean for spyware. Personally, I think decentralized BitTorrent is a good idea, if it&#8217;s encrypted.<br />
It&#8217;s not, so this is basically what Sloncek (who&#8217;s real name is Andrej Preston BTW) did.<br />
He closed his site, saying that he&#8217;s making a new P2P protocol.<br />
He makes a deal with the devil (CyDoor).<br />
He makes a deal with some company called Swarm Systems, who are of course impossible to track down anywhare.<br />
He knows that as a BT site owner, he has a large problem. Legal liablility.<br />
He can be sued for owning a BT site. (It wasn&#8217;t even a tracker. It just collected torrents from other sites, hosted them on their servers and made torrent hotlinking impossible.)<br />
He knows that if he&#8217;s has a decentralized network, but still not encrypted, the legal liability gets shifted over to the users. And there&#8217;s where CyDoor comes in. He has probably making a lot of money from advertisements on SuprNova.org, despite the enormous bandwidth pressure the servers must have had to handle. In order for that money to keep flowing, and still not be legally liable, he adds CyDoor to the app.<br />
In my opinion, there should not be made eXeem &#8216;lite&#8217;s (even if there is one already). There should not even be made Open Source eXeem clients.<br />
The entire eXeem network should be dumped, and a new network, that is open source, and encrypted should be created. Just like OpenFT. FastTrack started sucking, and the Lite clients couldn&#8217;t fix the problems so the giFT network gets created. Open source, highly improved FastTrack.<br />
Those were my two cents.<br />
Oh, and Andrej, if you&#8217;re reading this: Feel free to flame me again on 666FS. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8861</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one P2P app without spy/adware. Soulseek.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8852</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a p2p product out there that doesn&#039;t have some spyware? Emule is the only so far that seems halfway safe.  Kazaa network clients are all bad, every song I ever downloaded had a virus.  Is the RIAA infecting computers on purpose?  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised, but isn&#039;t it illegal to spread viruses on purpose?  I bet nobody will ever look into this because they have lots of money.

Please visit my blog:

http://www.jmaximus.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a p2p product out there that doesn&#8217;t have some spyware? Emule is the only so far that seems halfway safe.  Kazaa network clients are all bad, every song I ever downloaded had a virus.  Is the RIAA infecting computers on purpose?  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised, but isn&#8217;t it illegal to spread viruses on purpose?  I bet nobody will ever look into this because they have lots of money.</p>
<p>Please visit my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jmaximus.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jmaximus.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8840</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not trust what Methlabs says either. These are the same guys that block everything with firewall rules and call the IP an RIAA bot. I seen friends get firewalled because they were in some netblock that Queerguardian has.

Their ways of getting netblocks to block is pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not trust what Methlabs says either. These are the same guys that block everything with firewall rules and call the IP an RIAA bot. I seen friends get firewalled because they were in some netblock that Queerguardian has.</p>
<p>Their ways of getting netblocks to block is pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8835</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a colossal load of bull. You&#039;re just copying the Methlabs article, which itself was a load of bull. Cydoor is ADWARE and not spyware, dead easy to remove, and takes nothing away from the fact that eXeem works, and works well. 

Quit whining like a baby and clue up on MS Anti spyware, which gets rid of Cydoor in a second, for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a colossal load of bull. You&#8217;re just copying the Methlabs article, which itself was a load of bull. Cydoor is ADWARE and not spyware, dead easy to remove, and takes nothing away from the fact that eXeem works, and works well. </p>
<p>Quit whining like a baby and clue up on MS Anti spyware, which gets rid of Cydoor in a second, for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8831</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

Being a SuprNova IRC admin myself, I do agree with what is said in this article. I myself would never trust Cydoor. In fact I am totally against all Spyware in general. No, we will not see any revenue from eXeem. In fact SuprNova is not tied to eXeem as what people think it is. We merely just sit back and watch the show.

I do see many people come around and slag us because of Spyware in eXeem, when we don&#039;t really have any control over what goes on with eXeem. It really depresses me to see that since I do alot of great work around there, and people come on the very same IRC servers I run and slag the community because eXeem is filled full of Cydoor. Sometimes it makes me want to just give up and leave.

We just help run the communty we have and when someone blasts us for eXeem being a sellout, we are pretty much forced to ban them off the IRC network on our bosses behalf. For one I do not agree with it since people are entitled to voice their opinion, and I myself feel the same way as they do. 

Why did they have to use Cydoor, they could of used the method of advertising like the free Opera browser uses. No Spyware. Also if anyone mentions any links for eXlite, thats an instant server ban given right there. I stand strong, and know that Cydoor sucks. They are not to be trusted, and are just another company on the internet that should be shut down, just like Gator should be. The investers that invest in companies that run off Spyware/Adware like Cydoor and Gator should all be shot in my opinion.

Since I am an IRC Admin, I cannot say anything against what goes on with eXeem. Even though I do have opinions against any Spyware/Adware, I cannot voice them, which is why I am being anonymous. People there seem to be all for eXeem and think the Cydoor is safe, and some are very protective over eXeem&#039;s reputation and are using discipline as I&#039;ve expressed above. But in reality, there could be more people there that feel the same way I do. For now, all I do is sit back and watch, and do the job that an Admin is suppose to do, keeping the IRC network running.

I also may have been one of those people that have claimed that Cydoor is safe, and I do feel like a hypocrite for doing so. But what else can I do, I enjoy the technical side of my job there, and I can&#039;t go against the situation that exists, and overall and most importantly, I have many friends there that I don&#039;t want to risk losing just because I may be conflicting with their interests by admitting that Cydoor is nothing but a piece of garbage that should not be on anyones computer.

Peace out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Being a SuprNova IRC admin myself, I do agree with what is said in this article. I myself would never trust Cydoor. In fact I am totally against all Spyware in general. No, we will not see any revenue from eXeem. In fact SuprNova is not tied to eXeem as what people think it is. We merely just sit back and watch the show.</p>
<p>I do see many people come around and slag us because of Spyware in eXeem, when we don&#8217;t really have any control over what goes on with eXeem. It really depresses me to see that since I do alot of great work around there, and people come on the very same IRC servers I run and slag the community because eXeem is filled full of Cydoor. Sometimes it makes me want to just give up and leave.</p>
<p>We just help run the communty we have and when someone blasts us for eXeem being a sellout, we are pretty much forced to ban them off the IRC network on our bosses behalf. For one I do not agree with it since people are entitled to voice their opinion, and I myself feel the same way as they do. </p>
<p>Why did they have to use Cydoor, they could of used the method of advertising like the free Opera browser uses. No Spyware. Also if anyone mentions any links for eXlite, thats an instant server ban given right there. I stand strong, and know that Cydoor sucks. They are not to be trusted, and are just another company on the internet that should be shut down, just like Gator should be. The investers that invest in companies that run off Spyware/Adware like Cydoor and Gator should all be shot in my opinion.</p>
<p>Since I am an IRC Admin, I cannot say anything against what goes on with eXeem. Even though I do have opinions against any Spyware/Adware, I cannot voice them, which is why I am being anonymous. People there seem to be all for eXeem and think the Cydoor is safe, and some are very protective over eXeem&#8217;s reputation and are using discipline as I&#8217;ve expressed above. But in reality, there could be more people there that feel the same way I do. For now, all I do is sit back and watch, and do the job that an Admin is suppose to do, keeping the IRC network running.</p>
<p>I also may have been one of those people that have claimed that Cydoor is safe, and I do feel like a hypocrite for doing so. But what else can I do, I enjoy the technical side of my job there, and I can&#8217;t go against the situation that exists, and overall and most importantly, I have many friends there that I don&#8217;t want to risk losing just because I may be conflicting with their interests by admitting that Cydoor is nothing but a piece of garbage that should not be on anyones computer.</p>
<p>Peace out.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3633/comment-page-1#comment-8826</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just put torrents on servers such as emule... and then just use those to download what you want?

eXeem it a good idea,  but we dont need another network to do it on.  by using already in existance emule type p2p servers we could do the same thing as exeem, it would be less centralized, and no spyware! =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just put torrents on servers such as emule&#8230; and then just use those to download what you want?</p>
<p>eXeem it a good idea,  but we dont need another network to do it on.  by using already in existance emule type p2p servers we could do the same thing as exeem, it would be less centralized, and no spyware! =P</p>
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