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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-10598</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 07:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Speaking of dead, I found a very disturbing video online... 
It&#039;s about what the RIAA do to anyone who downloads music..

Here&#039;s the link;
http://www.randomfoo.net/cntv/f2f_500k.mov

I saw in the video that a person was shot &amp; after it diseased the
dead person&#039;s wallet was emptied out... It was very mean to do that... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Speaking of dead, I found a very disturbing video online&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s about what the RIAA do to anyone who downloads music..</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link;<br />
<a href="http://www.randomfoo.net/cntv/f2f_500k.mov" rel="nofollow">http://www.randomfoo.net/cntv/f2f_500k.mov</a></p>
<p>I saw in the video that a person was shot &#038; after it diseased the<br />
dead person&#8217;s wallet was emptied out&#8230; It was very mean to do that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9361</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 05:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. 

Also see our item on it - http://p2pnet.net/story/3773

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. </p>
<p>Also see our item on it &#8211; <a href="http://p2pnet.net/story/3773" rel="nofollow">http://p2pnet.net/story/3773</a></p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9334</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 02:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.betanews.com/article/RIAA_Sues_Deceased_Grandmother/1107532260

The recording industry&#039;s latest assault on file sharing has netted an unusual suspect: a deceased great-grandmother from West Virginia. In a lawsuit filed in January, the RIAA accused 83-year old Gertrude Walton of sharing over 700 pop, rock and rap songs under the alias &quot;smittenedkitten.

-- Tinfoil</description>
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<p>The recording industry&#8217;s latest assault on file sharing has netted an unusual suspect: a deceased great-grandmother from West Virginia. In a lawsuit filed in January, the RIAA accused 83-year old Gertrude Walton of sharing over 700 pop, rock and rap songs under the alias &#8220;smittenedkitten.</p>
<p>&#8211; Tinfoil</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9331</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the US alone, 61 million people (at a very conservative estimate) share online. 

What&#039;s 8,500 as a percentage of that? 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the US alone, 61 million people (at a very conservative estimate) share online. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s 8,500 as a percentage of that? </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9329</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Move to Canada </description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9323</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone suggest strategies to minimize the likelihood of getting hit with one of these lawsuits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone suggest strategies to minimize the likelihood of getting hit with one of these lawsuits?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9317</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
How does Big Music catch those folks it believes have violated copyright law by using P2P software?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does Big Music catch those folks it believes have violated copyright law by using P2P software?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9290</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 02:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah ...I think all music should be free.  I&#039;m sure artists will continue to make music just to make the world a better place.  Too bad we can&#039;t trade other things like food and clothing over the Internet, then all that stuff could be free too.  Imagine no one would have to work anymore; we could all just trade our free stuff for other free stuff.  Yeah, that would be really great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8230;I think all music should be free.  I&#8217;m sure artists will continue to make music just to make the world a better place.  Too bad we can&#8217;t trade other things like food and clothing over the Internet, then all that stuff could be free too.  Imagine no one would have to work anymore; we could all just trade our free stuff for other free stuff.  Yeah, that would be really great!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9242</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you know of a music industry lawyer that has released a hit song I&#039;m saying probably a big fat ZERO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you know of a music industry lawyer that has released a hit song I&#8217;m saying probably a big fat ZERO.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9232</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much of the money recovered by the RIAA from those it has &quot;succesfully sued&quot; has been paid to the artists whose music has allegedly been stolen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much of the money recovered by the RIAA from those it has &#8220;succesfully sued&#8221; has been paid to the artists whose music has allegedly been stolen?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9227</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, I think. There is no problem in giving your name or address or email address or company name or URL or telephone when you answer a letter or post something on the Internet. It is not advertisement. It is part of free speech. Actually it may add meaning because the reader is informed where the writer come from and if he or she is representing a special interest group. 

A URL can be a welcome sign or an inducement to take your money taken away or to sell you a good product. My URL is a welcome sign.

Of course if the rules for posting here were that personal address or contact information shall not be given, then the contact information should not be given.

As an example as to why a URL may be helpful.... maybe someone may want to know where I or my ideas come from.

As to the optimism, well they just caught the Bush administration buying the press. Nothing new here, but today that kind of activity is easier to catch. I credit the Internet for that. Also there is a graet deal of buzz about how lobbyists have purchased and influenced the american legislature. This, I think and hope, will eventually corrode the way the legislatures operates, since it will be more open. 

Maybe it is wishful thinking, and money will always control technology and free speech. But the control of money over the people and judges will continue if people do not speak up. Maybe the judges will prohibit p2p but if they do they will never hear the end of it from the Internet. That is new and hopefully will have an effect.

I do not think the courts will dare make illegal anything. including p2p, that may have legal and very important and even necessary uses and, most impostant, that expands free spech.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, I think. There is no problem in giving your name or address or email address or company name or URL or telephone when you answer a letter or post something on the Internet. It is not advertisement. It is part of free speech. Actually it may add meaning because the reader is informed where the writer come from and if he or she is representing a special interest group. </p>
<p>A URL can be a welcome sign or an inducement to take your money taken away or to sell you a good product. My URL is a welcome sign.</p>
<p>Of course if the rules for posting here were that personal address or contact information shall not be given, then the contact information should not be given.</p>
<p>As an example as to why a URL may be helpful&#8230;. maybe someone may want to know where I or my ideas come from.</p>
<p>As to the optimism, well they just caught the Bush administration buying the press. Nothing new here, but today that kind of activity is easier to catch. I credit the Internet for that. Also there is a graet deal of buzz about how lobbyists have purchased and influenced the american legislature. This, I think and hope, will eventually corrode the way the legislatures operates, since it will be more open. </p>
<p>Maybe it is wishful thinking, and money will always control technology and free speech. But the control of money over the people and judges will continue if people do not speak up. Maybe the judges will prohibit p2p but if they do they will never hear the end of it from the Internet. That is new and hopefully will have an effect.</p>
<p>I do not think the courts will dare make illegal anything. including p2p, that may have legal and very important and even necessary uses and, most impostant, that expands free spech.</p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9211</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 05:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, no big deal to me if someone wants to make a URL part of their signature. As to the optimism of the post, I would like to think he&#039;s right, but I don&#039;t... The music industry is in bed with (or in some cases under the same corporate umbrella as) the major news outlets. And they be runnin&#039; the show. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, no big deal to me if someone wants to make a URL part of their signature. As to the optimism of the post, I would like to think he&#8217;s right, but I don&#8217;t&#8230; The music industry is in bed with (or in some cases under the same corporate umbrella as) the major news outlets. And they be runnin&#8217; the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9208</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 05:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for linking your site when it&#039;s relevant to the post - but come on bud you&#039;ve posted here before and thus advertised your site before....

Quit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for linking your site when it&#8217;s relevant to the post &#8211; but come on bud you&#8217;ve posted here before and thus advertised your site before&#8230;.</p>
<p>Quit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9207</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 04:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will change soon, if the Internet is not outlawed. As information flows out of the governement and legal systems, and people realize they have been taken for a long, dark ride, people will demand changes. And those that demand changes will overtake the dinosaurs who run things at the present.

We are moving away from an &quot;entertaiment&quot; news system to one that gives the people what they should know and want to know. That will change things fast, I believe. 

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will change soon, if the Internet is not outlawed. As information flows out of the governement and legal systems, and people realize they have been taken for a long, dark ride, people will demand changes. And those that demand changes will overtake the dinosaurs who run things at the present.</p>
<p>We are moving away from an &#8220;entertaiment&#8221; news system to one that gives the people what they should know and want to know. That will change things fast, I believe. </p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9200</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 03:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This raises a question. Big music treats it&#039;s &quot;product&quot; (and those who produce it) as commodities, then turns around and expects It&#039;s &quot;product&quot; to be given all the protections and status of a copyright piece of art. I&#039;m not trying to define what art is here. My question is, if a work of art is sold as a commodity, like ground beef for instance, should it still be granted the same treatment as say a masterpiece oil painting? I&#039;m not questioning the validity or value of the art mind you, but the way copyright is applied and enforced? That a piece of art (a song in this case) can be reproduced basically without loss does not make it any less worthy as art, but it seems to me that it does challenge how copyright law should be applied to it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This raises a question. Big music treats it&#8217;s &#8220;product&#8221; (and those who produce it) as commodities, then turns around and expects It&#8217;s &#8220;product&#8221; to be given all the protections and status of a copyright piece of art. I&#8217;m not trying to define what art is here. My question is, if a work of art is sold as a commodity, like ground beef for instance, should it still be granted the same treatment as say a masterpiece oil painting? I&#8217;m not questioning the validity or value of the art mind you, but the way copyright is applied and enforced? That a piece of art (a song in this case) can be reproduced basically without loss does not make it any less worthy as art, but it seems to me that it does challenge how copyright law should be applied to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9199</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 03:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thought occurred to me today... The music industry has been totally bilking the public and their artists with one rigged setup or another (payola, shady record &quot;clubs&quot;, voodoo accounting, abusive artist contracts, etc, etc...) for so long now (more than 60 years!) that to expect them to straighten up and treat their customers like, well... customers is asking them to do something that is completely outside of their collective grasp of reality. The concept simply does not (and most likely will not ever) exist for them. The public, artists, and musicians are simply commodities to be exploited for maximum return by any means available (kinda sounds like the American way, don&#039;t it?). Personally I don&#039;t see that changing any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thought occurred to me today&#8230; The music industry has been totally bilking the public and their artists with one rigged setup or another (payola, shady record &#8220;clubs&#8221;, voodoo accounting, abusive artist contracts, etc, etc&#8230;) for so long now (more than 60 years!) that to expect them to straighten up and treat their customers like, well&#8230; customers is asking them to do something that is completely outside of their collective grasp of reality. The concept simply does not (and most likely will not ever) exist for them. The public, artists, and musicians are simply commodities to be exploited for maximum return by any means available (kinda sounds like the American way, don&#8217;t it?). Personally I don&#8217;t see that changing any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9191</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually.

Not every artist on itunes supports the RIAA.  Those (rare) artists I&#039;d suggest people still support.....  it&#039;s the rest of the PRO-RIAA idiot-artists that need everyone&#039;s boycott...  I have not purchased a music cd since Metallica sued Napster.... and I never will buy another again until artists support their fans......

_-Jile-_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually.</p>
<p>Not every artist on itunes supports the RIAA.  Those (rare) artists I&#8217;d suggest people still support&#8230;..  it&#8217;s the rest of the PRO-RIAA idiot-artists that need everyone&#8217;s boycott&#8230;  I have not purchased a music cd since Metallica sued Napster&#8230;. and I never will buy another again until artists support their fans&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>_-Jile-_</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9190</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>precedent


Ok I have the flu and can&#039;t spell today...  point stands though. ;)

_-Jile-_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>precedent</p>
<p>Ok I have the flu and can&#8217;t spell today&#8230;  point stands though. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>_-Jile-_</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3708/comment-page-1#comment-9188</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly suggest you contact one of the attorney&#039;s at eff.org.

If you are THE only case to make it to court - PLEASE get representation if EFF will take your case - because if you go to court unprepared or underdefended it will set a precident that will effect ALL future p2p cases.

Electronic Frontier Foundation
454 Shotwell Street
San Francisco, CA 94110
Phone: 415/436-9333 Fax: 415/436-9993
Website: http://www.eff.org / Email: information@eff.org

_-Jile-_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly suggest you contact one of the attorney&#8217;s at eff.org.</p>
<p>If you are THE only case to make it to court &#8211; PLEASE get representation if EFF will take your case &#8211; because if you go to court unprepared or underdefended it will set a precident that will effect ALL future p2p cases.</p>
<p>Electronic Frontier Foundation<br />
454 Shotwell Street<br />
San Francisco, CA 94110<br />
Phone: 415/436-9333 Fax: 415/436-9993<br />
Website: <a href="http://www.eff.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.eff.org</a> / Email: <a href="mailto:information@eff.org">information@eff.org</a></p>
<p>_-Jile-_</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon you idiots! Stop buying CDs. Stop buying this crap from iTunes and Napster.

Hitting these people in the wallet for real is the only way they are going to listen.</description>
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<p>Hitting these people in the wallet for real is the only way they are going to listen.</p>
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