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	<title>Comments on: Fee-based music services</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3848/comment-page-1#comment-9759</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how interesting

whats it like to work for napster? hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how interesting</p>
<p>whats it like to work for napster? hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3848/comment-page-1#comment-9749</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t buy it, but I love leasing it. Real Network&#039;s Real Rhapsody has been great at $9.95/month. However, I may well subscribe to Napster&#039;s new service. I love the idea of taking it with me on any Mp3 capable player, something Rhapsody doesn&#039;t offer at present, but I hear may offer soon to compete with Napster. I&#039;ll gladly pay $12.95/month for almost any song I can find--except for the Beatles and Arthur Alexander. &lt;frown&gt; Seriously, why would anyone buy it if you can rent it and keep it forever? Napster&#039;s SuperBowl commercial may have been laughed at, but the math makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t buy it, but I love leasing it. Real Network&#8217;s Real Rhapsody has been great at $9.95/month. However, I may well subscribe to Napster&#8217;s new service. I love the idea of taking it with me on any Mp3 capable player, something Rhapsody doesn&#8217;t offer at present, but I hear may offer soon to compete with Napster. I&#8217;ll gladly pay $12.95/month for almost any song I can find&#8211;except for the Beatles and Arthur Alexander. &lt;frown&gt; Seriously, why would anyone buy it if you can rent it and keep it forever? Napster&#8217;s SuperBowl commercial may have been laughed at, but the math makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3848/comment-page-1#comment-9724</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good article</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3848/comment-page-1#comment-9696</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i dont have data for that.. but i applied basic principles of confidence intervals to come up with the figures in the 3 posts above yours : ) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i dont have data for that.. but i applied basic principles of confidence intervals to come up with the figures in the 3 posts above yours : )</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i dont have data for that.. but i applied basic principles of confidence intervals to come up with the figures in the 3 posts above yours : ) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i dont have data for that.. but i applied basic principles of confidence intervals to come up with the figures in the 3 posts above yours : )</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3848/comment-page-1#comment-9694</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking at the music sharing figures here
http://p2pnet.net/story/3811 Top of the list did 6 million in one week. Times 52 weeks is ~ 250M or about the same as Apple is claiming. But that&#039;s only one track. Multiply out by the marketplace which is not only fairly flat but has a very long tail and I&#039;d estimate that the P2P file sharing market is at least three factors of ten bigger than iTunes and perhaps 4. That&#039;s 1000 to 10,000 times as big. 

Put it another way, iTunes represents 0.01% to 0.1% of the market.

Now these are back of an envelope figures largely out of my head. Anyone care to correct them and make them more accurate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at the music sharing figures here<br />
<a href="http://p2pnet.net/story/3811" rel="nofollow">http://p2pnet.net/story/3811</a> Top of the list did 6 million in one week. Times 52 weeks is ~ 250M or about the same as Apple is claiming. But that&#8217;s only one track. Multiply out by the marketplace which is not only fairly flat but has a very long tail and I&#8217;d estimate that the P2P file sharing market is at least three factors of ten bigger than iTunes and perhaps 4. That&#8217;s 1000 to 10,000 times as big. </p>
<p>Put it another way, iTunes represents 0.01% to 0.1% of the market.</p>
<p>Now these are back of an envelope figures largely out of my head. Anyone care to correct them and make them more accurate?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>given that figure even without error.. and the figure of 250 million songs.. that translates to a mere 10 or 11 songs a piece!.. so that&#039;s the &quot;explosion&quot; of online song purchase?   i guess the average song collection only covers 10 tracks in america... with those numbers i would be frightened as an industry exec, not proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>given that figure even without error.. and the figure of 250 million songs.. that translates to a mere 10 or 11 songs a piece!.. so that&#8217;s the &#8220;explosion&#8221; of online song purchase?   i guess the average song collection only covers 10 tracks in america&#8230; with those numbers i would be frightened as an industry exec, not proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3848/comment-page-1#comment-9692</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if their number of &quot;legal downloaders&quot; is estimated at 24 million.. it&#039;s in error by as much as 50%  (10.5 million)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if their number of &#8220;legal downloaders&#8221; is estimated at 24 million.. it&#8217;s in error by as much as 50%  (10.5 million)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so the quote &quot;paid a fee to download music or MP3 files off of the Internet.” exposes their intent to lie.

This study uses a statistical trick of large numbers and sample size selection.  it&#039;s accurate to 3% of the population.. witch is 350 million or so at the last census..

that means a variation in response of some  plus or minus 10.5 million.. they dont tell you that.. they just point to the tiny percentage point and say.. &quot;look how many people we estimated do this!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so the quote &#8220;paid a fee to download music or MP3 files off of the Internet.” exposes their intent to lie.</p>
<p>This study uses a statistical trick of large numbers and sample size selection.  it&#8217;s accurate to 3% of the population.. witch is 350 million or so at the last census..</p>
<p>that means a variation in response of some  plus or minus 10.5 million.. they dont tell you that.. they just point to the tiny percentage point and say.. &#8220;look how many people we estimated do this!&#8221;</p>
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