p2pnet - rss feed: MPAA to get LokiTorrent info
p2pnet.net News Feature:- No - LokiTorrent’s Lowkey hasn’t done a runner with the money members of the p2p community poured in to help with legal costs.
Far worse, LokiTorrent admin Edward Webber has agreed to, “not only pay a substantial settlement with even greater financial penalties for any further such actions, but by Court Order must provide the MPAA with access to and copies of all logs and server data related to his illegal BitTorrent activities, which will provide a roadmap to others who have used LokiTorrent to engage in illegal activities,” says the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America).
The site was shut down today and images left in its place. Many people believed Lowkey had taken off with donations of between $40,000 and $60,000, depending on who you listen to.
The movie studio enforcer also says it’s been able to use tax-payer funded law enforcement authorities in Austria Hong Kong, Finland, France and the Netherlands as movie industry cops.
The ‘trade’ organization also says it’ll be sending Digital Millennium Copyright Act takedown notices pursuant to ISPs hosting, “eDonkey servers that are being used to facilitate copyright infringement”.
www.brandnewmovies.com, www.moviepros.net, www.downloadmuch.com and www.downloaditall.com are first up in the firing line.
“The operators of these sites charge their customers subscription fees in exchange for substantial assistance in locating and downloading infringing copies of copyrighted motion pictures, including films owned by the MPAAA member companies,” says the movie studio war machine.
Yesterday, StreamCast Networks announced its Morpheus p2p app now includes BitTorrent.
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See:-
done a runner - MPAA slams door on LokiTorrent, p2pnet, February 10, 2005
enthusiastic report - MPAA MEMBER STUDIOS FILE SECOND ROUND OF LAWSUITS AGAINST MAJOR P2P SERVER OPERATORS THAT FACILITATE GLOBAL MOVIE PIRACY, MPAA, February 10, 2005
now includes - Morpheus 4.7 - with BitTorrent, p2pnet, February 9, 2005
February 11th, 2005 at 2:50 am
US citizens beware!!!
February 11th, 2005 at 3:32 am
http://profiles.yahoo.com/edwebber
from Slyck’s forums.
February 11th, 2005 at 3:51 am
he deleted the profile but its on google cache http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:0bQKqKvKSu4J:profiles.yahoo.com/edwebber+&hl=en
February 11th, 2005 at 4:59 am
Ed’s Favorite Quote
“Then there will be running and screaming” [snip]
I should think there will be a *great* deal of both, from now on, re ‘Ed the Quisling’.
February 11th, 2005 at 5:05 am
Someone find out the names of the jerks at the MPAA and we’ll form a hit list… then with all the money donated to bittorrent websites, hire an army of assassins to take out every last one of them!!!!!
MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!! >: P
February 11th, 2005 at 5:55 am
Ok Folks It is time to get our guns! Meanwhile I am downloading and sharing my head-off just to make these parasites poup in their pants! and to show them that I am not affraid! Suing your customer is a mortal sin and if they sue me I will pay them with bullets! Of course they will not believe this until too late…. for them! How typical! Corrupted law are no good protection!
February 11th, 2005 at 7:16 am
It all makes sense and ads up. Also what happen with all their ad revenue?
http://www.torrent-news.com/archives/rumor_mill/000020.php
February 11th, 2005 at 7:30 am
With their ad revenue estimates so high in that article.. why would they even need to bother requesting donations? The “keeping face” part doesnt seem to make sense to me.
Other than that it seems like a stable theory.
February 11th, 2005 at 11:39 am
Ok, no more mister nice guy: I guess I told you so, just doesn’t quite sum this up. While the MPAA-RIAA is at it, they can go after www.f*cktheinter.net and all those paid-for-use and add-supported sites and apps. Yes, this is a rant and here’s why:
Loki sold out and all its loyal users with it. Lowkee is Jim Jones.
Get the focus of P2P away from money and more on ideology and technology.
Money has never been and will never been an incentive to create or innovate something meaningful for mankind. It’s only an incentive for the bottom-line.
If they have a family to support or need that Jaguar in their garage, let them go do something else but lay of P2P.
February 11th, 2005 at 1:14 pm
There’s still one that the Fucking MPAA can’t get because it’s located in Russia and it becomes bigger everyday
February 11th, 2005 at 2:07 pm
These IP numbers in Lokitorrent logs won’t do any good unless the ISP cooperates. Last I heard, SBC was not complying with RIAA requests for IP number IDs. But the lawsuit is ongoing, apparently.
Anyone know how long SBC keeps their logs? A year? 3 months? Forever, as Verizon apparently does?
February 11th, 2005 at 2:43 pm
which is that bc i’ve never heard of it.
February 11th, 2005 at 2:58 pm
Try google ……
February 11th, 2005 at 4:01 pm
Before we decide to lynch this guy, we should first know how much information he has available to turn over. Just as many anonymous proxy services promise users that they keep no logs, hopefully Lokitorrent also had set up his operation to ensure the privacy of members.
It’s still possible that he has little or nothing in the way of server logs to turn over to the enemy. … But just don’t hold your breath.
February 11th, 2005 at 4:58 pm
On top of that, it takes a lot to stand up to one of the entertainment industry enforcers. How many of the 8,500 ‘approached’ by the RIAA have done so?
Lowkey was out for all he could get, and it’ll be interesting to learn what’s going to happen to the cash he collected.
In the meanwhile, there aren’t too many people with the balls (not to speak of the resources) to go up against a multi-billion-dollar opponent.
And said multi-billion-dollar opponent is very well aware of that.
Cheers!
February 11th, 2005 at 5:25 pm
I never heard of a court case on an issue that is in higher courts regarding other sites and p2p software being ruled on by a lower court… have you?
name one case that was open and shut so fast!
napster even lasted in courts for years with no $$ before getitng a backer.
also it didnt strike you as funny that inspite of the courts ruling that a website or ISP cant be forsed to turn over IP addresses yet in this case it happen? Actually if I remember it was even the same Texas court that made that ruling…
There are several good articles over at www.torrent-news.com
I agree that somethings dont add up. alot more than they even posted!
February 11th, 2005 at 6:26 pm
my sentiments exactly. that was one of the first things that popped into my head when i saw that. I’m formulating a nice legal counter-attack that will annoy the piss out of them. I’ll send it to P2Pnet as an email as soon as i get some of the details worked out and set up a webpage. keep your eyes on some forums, as i will be posting more details in all the right spots. Time for some good ole fashioned civil disobedience. A few volunteers and a little time is all thats needed to get them a headache. Stay Tuned.
February 11th, 2005 at 7:15 pm
Some news stories are claiming that the MPAA got a court order to shut down LokiTorrent and sieze its servers and domain. Others don’t mention this, and imply that it was a private settlement between the operator of LokiTorrent and the MPAA. Which is correct?
February 11th, 2005 at 7:36 pm
We will ….
Cheers!
February 11th, 2005 at 7:37 pm
Well said.
Thats how the US legal system allows it to be.
February 12th, 2005 at 3:36 am
How to stop the RIAA and MPAA.
Hi there
I have yet to see this opinion posted anywhere on the net but feel this is a good place to start the thought. A few if not all of us reading this have financial resources. Those reading this that do not yet have financial resources will some day.
If the financial resources are applied correctly then we could force out the management that does not like p2p software.
As most of you are aware all of the big music labels and movie studios are publicly traded companies. They have market capitalization in the billions most likely so this will take time unless we find some big investors that agree with us.
The board/executives of a company have a duty to satisfy their shareholders. Presently their shareholders only demand profit and nice dividends from the corporate managers. However if a small percentage of well publicized share holders start to publicy, and through the shareholder voting system, demand that the corporations stop harrassing the customers then they would start to feel pressure to stop.
If that percentage of p2p friendly shareholders got large enough to vote executives in who do not believe there are losses due to P2P then the threat to this community is greatly reduced.
For example you can find a list of all labels under the RIAA at their website http://www.riaa.com/about/members/default.asp and we could locate the company with the smallest market cap.
Now as shareholders of the company we could define that companies policy regardless of whether it is perceived as good or bad for the company. If the executives act recklessly and allow us to do what we see fit then the shareholders can sue them for damages if the share price goes down. If the people reading this owned all the stock then this would cease to be a problem. Also since we own all the stock then we wouldn’t have market flucuation due to concern about file sharing as we are not concerned.
So find a small publicly held label and buy up their stock. Make it nice and puclic so the world can see what we are doing. Make it a good market thing to be P2P friendly so the executives that are screwing us have to start kissing our asses so their share price goes up!
That is how you change the government. The government is the slave of large corporations. If the shareholder stops the spending on the policticians all the better. Less corrupt politics. For our little corner here though we just want the labels/studios to realize that we have maney to spend on stock and once we start buying with our purpose to change the way they think they will bend.
Now if we could just get Bill Gates to start buying stock for this purpose we could pretty much take care of them. I somehow doubt that will happen as he is probably on their side.
Anyway I have spoken far to long. May you all have success in the future!
February 12th, 2005 at 9:05 am
All i have to say is watch that one southpark episode. These are greedy people using weak excuses for their troubles. They claim this and claim that and no matter how many words they put into their excuses it all revolves around “money”. They can sue all they want but p2p is global and the more the companies push the more the cosumer will resist which results in less sales. Instead of stoping p2p why dont you match is by lowering the prices and worry more about the consumer and their needs rather than trying to control us like a flock of sheep.
February 12th, 2005 at 12:24 pm
Companies should learn to package their stuff better and lower their profit margin to attract consumers. Shuting down bittorrent websites and sue every downloader is only a temporary solution.
How many of you are sick of DVDs that is only single disc with close to NO directors extras? With only language selection and 5.1 sound effects, is it enough to attract consumers? Look at Lord of the Ring trilogy collection set! It is selling so well because of the vast amount of extras. No one is bothered with the bootleg or .avi version.
February 13th, 2005 at 7:00 am
http://www.2mediarelations.com/px/loki/
February 14th, 2005 at 4:26 am
When it comes down to it, there is a simple solution. If they want us to buy their products so they can make money all they need to do is make some “quality” products. This last year I bought less music than ever. Not because I was downloading but because there just wasn’t much good music out. I hate to burtst their bubble but thanks to file shareing I have more music and movies than I would had if not for the downloading. I must thank p2p sharing for the great music it has given me.
February 14th, 2005 at 7:47 pm
anybody stupid enough to register with sites using their real information deserves to be sued! bugmenot for ever!!
February 18th, 2005 at 9:56 pm
Why was Low Kee even keepiong server logs? There was no need to keep this information at all - and the trackers can always purge old IP info. The idea of P2P is to share accurate files anonymously. P2P information sharing promotes efficiency and happiness of the whole human race - something the copylockers are preventing.