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	<title>Comments on: BPI to launch UK sue &#8216;em all campaign</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007996</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The entertainment industry is at war with it&#039;s customers.

it is well known that the best defense is offense. In this regards I just want to remember the BPI and their vivendic masters that at the end of  world war  II they were not a wall taller than a human in the German capital.

Germany recovered. They will not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entertainment industry is at war with it&#8217;s customers.</p>
<p>it is well known that the best defense is offense. In this regards I just want to remember the BPI and their vivendic masters that at the end of  world war  II they were not a wall taller than a human in the German capital.</p>
<p>Germany recovered. They will not.</p>
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		<title>By: RIAA Hater</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007995</link>
		<dc:creator>RIAA Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like the BPI, RIAA, and MPAA to meet my pirate sword.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like the BPI, RIAA, and MPAA to meet my pirate sword.</p>
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		<title>By: Technopath</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007973</link>
		<dc:creator>Technopath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think the government believes that we ought to enforce our own rights&quot;

Really? What a concept! The gov actually wants you to waste your own money, defending your own &quot;rights&quot;?
Thats shocking! Now get a fucking clue and do just that you bunch of assclown bastards! And take the RIASS with you on that trip! While your getting that clue, go after the COUNTERFITERS that are SELLING your shit, they are actual criminals, not us fileshares.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the government believes that we ought to enforce our own rights&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? What a concept! The gov actually wants you to waste your own money, defending your own &#8220;rights&#8221;?<br />
Thats shocking! Now get a fucking clue and do just that you bunch of assclown bastards! And take the RIASS with you on that trip! While your getting that clue, go after the COUNTERFITERS that are SELLING your shit, they are actual criminals, not us fileshares.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007883</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These fools are just motivating P2P innovators to further pursue fully anonymous and encrypted file sharing systems.  Then who are they going to sue?  How will they stop anyone?  They will never win, and are just wasting time and money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These fools are just motivating P2P innovators to further pursue fully anonymous and encrypted file sharing systems.  Then who are they going to sue?  How will they stop anyone?  They will never win, and are just wasting time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007874</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll just point out that more than half of the UK&#039;s ISPs are utterly opposed to this bill. The DEP is law....but now the &#039;technical measures&#039; have to be found and they presently don&#039;t exist to do what the copyright holders are looking for in a scaleable, managed, or effective manner. Maybe there will be some kind of a massive technical revolution by content detection innovators, but Internet speeds are rising faster than computational power is increasing - you just can&#039;t do inline analysis of data content in a rapid enough fashion to &#039;catch&#039; infringing transfers of data. Offline inspection is possible, but that requires temporarily storing data content for analysis, and that has to be illegal under UK law.

We&#039;re &#039;fortunate&#039; in that quantum computing is a long, long way off so the likelihood of rapidly breaking the present PKI, when it&#039;s properly implemented, isn&#039;t all that high. This means that unless ISPs are put in a position that they are required to perform man-in-the-middle attacks against users exchanging encryption keys (and, thus, put themselves in a situation to inspect the encrypted data transfers going across their network for copyright purposes) encrypted and proxied approaches to exchanging data will both become more prominent and baked into data exchange software.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll just point out that more than half of the UK&#8217;s ISPs are utterly opposed to this bill. The DEP is law&#8230;.but now the &#8216;technical measures&#8217; have to be found and they presently don&#8217;t exist to do what the copyright holders are looking for in a scaleable, managed, or effective manner. Maybe there will be some kind of a massive technical revolution by content detection innovators, but Internet speeds are rising faster than computational power is increasing &#8211; you just can&#8217;t do inline analysis of data content in a rapid enough fashion to &#8216;catch&#8217; infringing transfers of data. Offline inspection is possible, but that requires temporarily storing data content for analysis, and that has to be illegal under UK law.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re &#8216;fortunate&#8217; in that quantum computing is a long, long way off so the likelihood of rapidly breaking the present PKI, when it&#8217;s properly implemented, isn&#8217;t all that high. This means that unless ISPs are put in a position that they are required to perform man-in-the-middle attacks against users exchanging encryption keys (and, thus, put themselves in a situation to inspect the encrypted data transfers going across their network for copyright purposes) encrypted and proxied approaches to exchanging data will both become more prominent and baked into data exchange software.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007862</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...according to them has cost over 1,000,000 jobs and over 3 Billion €, which is a load of horse shit and they know it.&quot;

Hey!  At least horseshit contains some useful substance!
:P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;according to them has cost over 1,000,000 jobs and over 3 Billion €, which is a load of horse shit and they know it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey!  At least horseshit contains some useful substance!<br />
 <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;IT&#039;S NOT OUR FAULT&quot; says the BPI, well whose fault is it, you bunch of uneducated, unsophisticated, unrepentant, uncouth, bunch of liars. File sharing is NOT illegal tho you dip sticks wish it were. I&#039;m waiting for this bunch of moronic, self-important, prigs to sue the wrong person or persons in England and wind up having their asses handed to them in court. Digi-Protect, like Media Sentry uses made up stats and information to justify their extortion letters. Well, let&#039;s see how that fairs when someone takes them to court for falsely accusing them of file sharing. What should be and has to be done is for the countries that are being screwed over with ACTA and this other horse shit that these crooks are ramming down the throats of governments everywhere on the globe, is to have them, the people, take this bunch to court in the Hague and have it decided there if it is OK for the Kartels and their bum boys and girls to attempt to influence and interfere in the internal politics of sovereign nations and if not and it is found to be illegal for them to do so, then the Kartels should be forced to stop their attempts to make the world march to their outdated drum. Their business models don&#039;t work in today&#039;s market place so instead of trying to fix that by coming up with ones that do work they are whining and crying and making up figures to justify their so called last ditch attempt to stop the demise of their industry which, according to them has cost over 1,000,000 jobs and over 3 Billion €, which is a load of horse shit and they know it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;IT&#8217;S NOT OUR FAULT&#8221; says the BPI, well whose fault is it, you bunch of uneducated, unsophisticated, unrepentant, uncouth, bunch of liars. File sharing is NOT illegal tho you dip sticks wish it were. I&#8217;m waiting for this bunch of moronic, self-important, prigs to sue the wrong person or persons in England and wind up having their asses handed to them in court. Digi-Protect, like Media Sentry uses made up stats and information to justify their extortion letters. Well, let&#8217;s see how that fairs when someone takes them to court for falsely accusing them of file sharing. What should be and has to be done is for the countries that are being screwed over with ACTA and this other horse shit that these crooks are ramming down the throats of governments everywhere on the globe, is to have them, the people, take this bunch to court in the Hague and have it decided there if it is OK for the Kartels and their bum boys and girls to attempt to influence and interfere in the internal politics of sovereign nations and if not and it is found to be illegal for them to do so, then the Kartels should be forced to stop their attempts to make the world march to their outdated drum. Their business models don&#8217;t work in today&#8217;s market place so instead of trying to fix that by coming up with ones that do work they are whining and crying and making up figures to justify their so called last ditch attempt to stop the demise of their industry which, according to them has cost over 1,000,000 jobs and over 3 Billion €, which is a load of horse shit and they know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007849</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You spelled organization as *organisation*.

This insanity has to stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You spelled organization as *organisation*.</p>
<p>This insanity has to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/38491/comment-page-1#comment-1007841</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ &quot;A couple of typos ... &quot;

Oh rilly? 8-)

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ &#8220;A couple of typos &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>Oh rilly? <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it&#039;s one of two things (or both)

A) Because German digiproject is moving into the UK and teamed up with ACS:Law to sue people, they figure they may as well also since those two clowns will make a buck at extortion while BPI won&#039;t. BPI plainly wants a piece of the extortion money.

B) They will hire digiproject and ACS:Law in order to get the extortion money directly while sharing X-amount to the two clowns who intimidate people and extort the money.

C) All of the above.

They just did an about-face to what they stated to the media here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8619407.stm
(Jon covered this in a recent story as well)

In it they state:
&quot;The BPI, which represents the British music industry and lobbied hard to push the bill through parliament, has been keen to distance itself from the methods used by DigiProtect and ACS: Law.
It told the BBC that legal action should be reserved for the worst offenders rather than &quot;widely used as a first response&quot;.&quot;

File sharing IS NOT counterfeiting and selling on street corners. These would be the worst offenders. However they turn around in the face of extortion competition and want a piece of the extortion pie and extortion money.

THIS is what it amounts to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s one of two things (or both)</p>
<p>A) Because German digiproject is moving into the UK and teamed up with ACS:Law to sue people, they figure they may as well also since those two clowns will make a buck at extortion while BPI won&#8217;t. BPI plainly wants a piece of the extortion money.</p>
<p>B) They will hire digiproject and ACS:Law in order to get the extortion money directly while sharing X-amount to the two clowns who intimidate people and extort the money.</p>
<p>C) All of the above.</p>
<p>They just did an about-face to what they stated to the media here:<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8619407.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8619407.stm</a><br />
(Jon covered this in a recent story as well)</p>
<p>In it they state:<br />
&#8220;The BPI, which represents the British music industry and lobbied hard to push the bill through parliament, has been keen to distance itself from the methods used by DigiProtect and ACS: Law.<br />
It told the BBC that legal action should be reserved for the worst offenders rather than &#8220;widely used as a first response&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>File sharing IS NOT counterfeiting and selling on street corners. These would be the worst offenders. However they turn around in the face of extortion competition and want a piece of the extortion pie and extortion money.</p>
<p>THIS is what it amounts to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of typos in the pic Jon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of typos in the pic Jon.</p>
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