Comments on: Internet piracy IIPA’s No 1 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853/comment-page-1#comment-9752 Reader's Write Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:48:09 +0000 #comment-9752 Heh! I'm really not that unusual. I'm something of a music fanatic but with somewhat left field tastes. I discover new musics via things like last.fm forums. I never get singles, only whole albums. When there's something I discover I want, the sequence goes something like this. - Allofmp3 - Soulseek - Amazon wishlist - Direct from the artist or label's website - Amazon Allofmp3's catalogue is pretty large and they're quite good for less well known grooves. It's just plain easier to pay the money for well ripped, well tagged, named and tidy files. If they don't have it, then I'll put the effort in (at minimum wage) to find UberRips on soulseek. This takes some time and invariably involves tidying ID3 tags and filenames even when you've managed to find the files from a sharer with some bandwidth who stays up long enough to grab them. If that fails I'll just wait for someone to buy them from my wishlist. And if I really can't wait, then I'll try and buy direct from the artist or label. Or if that's impossible, then from Amazon. Every CD that comes into the house gets ripped immediately and stored. I'm too tired of the kids leaving CDs around unboxed to get scratched, lost and destroyed. The point here is that I really can't be bothered to battle with P2P downloading when I can pay a reasonable amount and save the time and effort. So it's really not AllOfMp3.com that I'm promoting. It's the business model. Sell me something I want (LAME MP3 with no DRM) at a reasonable price (~10-20c per track) and I'll buy it rather than download it via P2P. It's a straight economic market decision. Money+Quality+Ease = Free+Effort <> Expensive Crap What I really want to see is a mainstream western AllOfMp3.com where the catalogue is all >12 months old and includes everything ever recorded. I figure that wouldn't get Apple's measly 250m downloads, it would get more like 250B. And whoever did it would get very, very rich in the process. And I will not buy anything with DRM. Just Say No To DRM! Heh!

I’m really not that unusual. I’m something of a music fanatic but with somewhat left field tastes. I discover new musics via things like last.fm forums. I never get singles, only whole albums. When there’s something I discover I want, the sequence goes something like this.
- Allofmp3
- Soulseek
- Amazon wishlist
- Direct from the artist or label’s website
- Amazon

Allofmp3’s catalogue is pretty large and they’re quite good for less well known grooves. It’s just plain easier to pay the money for well ripped, well tagged, named and tidy files.

If they don’t have it, then I’ll put the effort in (at minimum wage) to find UberRips on soulseek. This takes some time and invariably involves tidying ID3 tags and filenames even when you’ve managed to find the files from a sharer with some bandwidth who stays up long enough to grab them.

If that fails I’ll just wait for someone to buy them from my wishlist.

And if I really can’t wait, then I’ll try and buy direct from the artist or label. Or if that’s impossible, then from Amazon.

Every CD that comes into the house gets ripped immediately and stored. I’m too tired of the kids leaving CDs around unboxed to get scratched, lost and destroyed.

The point here is that I really can’t be bothered to battle with P2P downloading when I can pay a reasonable amount and save the time and effort. So it’s really not AllOfMp3.com that I’m promoting. It’s the business model. Sell me something I want (LAME MP3 with no DRM) at a reasonable price (~10-20c per track) and I’ll buy it rather than download it via P2P.

It’s a straight economic market decision. Money+Quality+Ease = Free+Effort <> Expensive Crap

What I really want to see is a mainstream western AllOfMp3.com where the catalogue is all >12 months old and includes everything ever recorded. I figure that wouldn’t get Apple’s measly 250m downloads, it would get more like 250B. And whoever did it would get very, very rich in the process.

And I will not buy anything with DRM. Just Say No To DRM!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853/comment-page-1#comment-9734 Reader's Write Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:00:36 +0000 #comment-9734 There is no way I would have paid $1 per song or $15.00 or more for a CD for 90% of my collection. The music I've downloaded is great but given a choice between paying bills and buying music. Bills win. Allofmp3.com changes that equation for me. I'm willing to pay 5-20 cents per song especially when I get to choose formats etc like Allofmp3 allows! Record companies have to realize some day that they could sell a whole lot more if the prices were reduced. I'll bet that the record compaines would love to have the money the pirates make. One last thing, I wonder how many people would have actually gone out and bought the CD of the music they downloaded. I know that there is a lot of music downloaded that people would have never bought. Allofmp3 allows me to take a risk with an unknown artist. maxx8 There is no way I would have paid $1 per song or $15.00 or more for a CD for 90% of my collection. The music I’ve downloaded is great but given a choice between paying bills and buying music. Bills win. Allofmp3.com changes that equation for me. I’m willing to pay 5-20 cents per song especially when I get to choose formats etc like Allofmp3 allows!

Record companies have to realize some day that they could sell a whole lot more if the prices were reduced. I’ll bet that the record compaines would love to have the money the pirates make.

One last thing, I wonder how many people would have actually gone out and bought the CD of the music they downloaded. I know that there is a lot of music downloaded that people would have never bought. Allofmp3 allows me to take a risk with an unknown artist.

maxx8

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853/comment-page-1#comment-9719 Reader's Write Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:04:03 +0000 #comment-9719 The biggest lie these crooks keep foisting on the world is the "loss estimates". They are calculated as if every "illegal" copy of software/content that was "stolen" would have been legitimately purchased (at full retail of course) if it had not been "stolen". I would bet that represents an artificial inflation of at least 1000% dollars wise of what would have been purchased in reality if "piracy" was not a factor. And I think that's a conservative estimate of the exaggeration. If most folks could not get this stuff cheap or free, they would just not buy it, period. Why? To most of us this content that they (over)value so highly is just not worth anywhere near what the "owners" feel that can charge for it. The biggest lie these crooks keep foisting on the world is the “loss estimates”. They are calculated as if every “illegal” copy of software/content that was “stolen” would have been legitimately purchased (at full retail of course) if it had not been “stolen”. I would bet that represents an artificial inflation of at least 1000% dollars wise of what would have been purchased in reality if “piracy” was not a factor. And I think that’s a conservative estimate of the exaggeration. If most folks could not get this stuff cheap or free, they would just not buy it, period. Why? To most of us this content that they (over)value so highly is just not worth anywhere near what the “owners” feel that can charge for it.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853/comment-page-1#comment-9712 Reader's Write Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:52:57 +0000 #comment-9712 Julian, is it true you have shares in allofmp3? heh Cheers! Julian, is it true you have shares in allofmp3? heh

Cheers!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853/comment-page-1#comment-9711 Reader's Write Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:31:46 +0000 #comment-9711 You know the IIPA really should try harder. They're just not giving enough free advertising to specific sites like allofmp3.com <grin> You know the IIPA really should try harder. They’re just not giving enough free advertising to specific sites like allofmp3.com

<grin>

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853/comment-page-1#comment-9708 Reader's Write Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:55:32 +0000 #comment-9708 Yes.. it conforms completely to russian copyright law. I'm so sorry that their copyright law focuses on compensation rather than control and obstinate obstruction of technological development like it does in the united states.. but they do compensate rights holders with royalties similar to what the riaa pays to its artists as per contract. no.. it's not the 60 cents the RIAA members gouge from stores like itunes, but the few cents per copy the RIAA pays to its artists are similarly paid by allofmp3 for the copies they sell through their site. Again, I'm sorry the riaa doesnt get their strangling control, but unlike the US, the russian copyright law still has this novel thing called BALANCE. maybe we'll get it back some time? Yes.. it conforms completely to russian copyright law.

I’m so sorry that their copyright law focuses on compensation rather than control and obstinate obstruction of technological development like it does in the united states.. but they do compensate rights holders with royalties similar to what the riaa pays to its artists as per contract. no.. it’s not the 60 cents the RIAA members gouge from stores like itunes, but the few cents per copy the RIAA pays to its artists are similarly paid by allofmp3 for the copies they sell through their site.

Again, I’m sorry the riaa doesnt get their strangling control, but unlike the US, the russian copyright law still has this novel thing called BALANCE. maybe we’ll get it back some time?

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/3853/comment-page-1#comment-9707 Reader's Write Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:46:02 +0000 #comment-9707 It's nice to see oppressive governments turned one against the other. Any Chinese citizen want me to host human rights or union pages here in the U.S. that the Chinese governemnt doesn't like? Yup, it's the people of the world against the governments and cartels of the world. The fight is on. It’s nice to see oppressive governments turned one against the other. Any Chinese citizen want me to host human rights or union pages here in the U.S. that the Chinese governemnt doesn’t like?

Yup, it’s the people of the world against the governments and cartels of the world. The fight is on.

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