Sam I Am on Awesome Sauce
p2pnet news view | RIAA:- Personal rant time, folks.
In yesterday’s story citing Canadian prime minister George W. Harper as new internet troll, “Nine point nine nine nine nine times out of ten trolls lurk in the dark, only occasionally being forced into the light, a recent example being the outing of long-time p2pnet troll Sam I am”, I wrote.
A pretentious admirer of Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony Music’s RIAA, he’d tried, and failed, to come across as a reasonable person presenting reasonable propositions.
For a while, I allowed Sam I Am (real name Gregory A. Roach, right) to post. But he soon became tedious and redundant and I cut him off.
Is he a paid shill? One could certainly be forgiven for thinking so.
And now for something completely different …
Like so many other sites, p2pnet was hit hard by the recession and I tried various ways to use the net to replace the advertising support I’d lost because of it.
None of them worked and I decided try something completely different — an off-line venture requiring no start-up capital (well, very little) no previous experience, and absolutely not reliant on the vagaries of the internet.
It’s called Dad’s Westcoast Wildfire Awesome Sauce and of it I say >>>
After years of trying hot, but not tasty, tasty, but not hot, sauces, we decided to blend our own and Dad’s Westcoast Wildfire Awesome Sauce is the result — a Eureka moment!
It’s not East Indian. It’s not Thai. Or Chinese. It’s not Mexican.
It’s just awesome. 
A delicious fusion of 16 different herbs and spices, sun-dried tomatoes, Balsamic vinegar, garlic and seasonings and fresh peppers (including Habanero for that lip-tingling zing), it tantalises taste buds other sauces miss.
It’s a lot of fun and I’m really enjoying myself at local markets here on Vancouver Island —- and watching peoples’ faces as they try it for the first time.
No only but also, it’s very early days, but a Victoria restaurant is now carrying it, and we’ve had serious interest from a store in a local supermarket chain.
‘So it’s finally come to this … ‘
I’ve been attacked for a lot of things — for not hating gay people, writing about the Prophet Muhammed, Jesus and Miley Cyrus, for saying the corporate music labels and studios are a bunch of unprincipled, greedy bastards, and suggesting the people running the RIAA are lower than whale shit. And more.
But no one had said anything negative about my efforts to produce income from Awesome Sauce.
Until Gregory A. Roach.
He’d posted a comment under the George W. Harper as new internet troll item, which I deleted as being of no consequence.
Now, in an email,”So it’s finally come to this, you really have succumbed to the very actions you publicly claim to deplore, eh?” – he says, specifying “the out-and-out censoring of what you now know to be authoritative, experienced dissent?”
Authoritative, experienced dissent? Surely you can’t be talking about yourself, Greg. Can you?
“Whoa”, he says, going on >>>
I had lunch with an ASCAP exec last Sunday and it’s really fascinating stuff. We discussed the many positive outcomes of the RIAA lawsuit campaign while you still insist it’s a failure. 
Ever think about sponsoring a well written opposition piece?
I didn’t think so. Fair enough. But you know what I really don’t understand?
Your website and your voice is one of fewer than a dozen truly well established in your chosen field of expertise, Jon, with decent writing as your medium and yet you pander down to the angry-boy peanut gallery of the Dreddsniks and Emrich’s out there, while selling sauce at outdoor markets. WTF, Jon?
Is this what you really want? Sauce? One professional 40 minute presentation would help solidify your stature and earn you years of culinary sales in a single business trip.
Do you take yourself seriously anymore?
It’s a shame, frankly, I realize we don’t agree but you could be a force to be reckoned with — that’s for sure and that’s what I sincerely think.
And you choose sauce.
I did, Greg, and it’s an experience I wouldn’t want to miss.
Dredd and Henry are friends of mine, as are a lot of other people I’ve come to know through p2pnet. Insulting them just further demeans you.
The “decent writing” comes from people who allow me to run their works, and a significant number of readers’ comment posts.
“Do you take yourself seriously anymore?” – you ask.
Nope. But then, I never have.
p2pnet is a personal site and as I’ve stressed before, I’m under no obligation to give any Tom — or dick — air-time, so to speak.
If you ever have anything useful to say, I’ll be happy to unblock you.
In the meanwhile, our whole family is involved in making and selling Awesome Sauce (Emma is even earning pocket money at two of the markets) and we’re meeting a lot of very nice, very interesting people in walks of life we’d never in a million years have otherwise come across.
This afternoon I’ll be preparing a load of peppers so they stay fresh.
And I’m still here on p2pnet.
No need to stay tuned, Greg.
Cheers! Jon Newton
internet troll – Stephen Harper: internet troll, May 25, 2010
Sam I am – Sam I Am — a troll unmasked, February 22, 2010
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“Faculty members such as Arato complain that Kerrey has been aloof and autocratic during his time at the university”, it says, going on >>>
He has gone through five provosts, often dismissing them unceremoniously over managerial differences.
“Given his career, you would think Kerrey would have a political persona, but he has a military persona and he’s proud of that,” Arato said. “He’s hierarchical, not collegial. I’ve seen him remove deans and provosts without any real process or deliberation. I mean, these are distinguished men.”
“The big riddle is, How could someone who was such an outstanding politician provoke such opposition in a university setting?” Jim Miller, professor of political science at the New School, told TheWrap.
However, Miller added, “Many of the traits that served him well as governor and senator — and could serve him well out in Hollywood, particularly a tendency to unguardedly say what’s on his mind — caused a culture clash.”
And to be sure, Kerrey’s boosters have pointed to his ambitious plans for the New School’s campus and his skills at fundraising.
Kerrey doubled the number of full-time faculty to 351 over his first eight years and saw the number of undergraduates swell to more than 6,000. Despite the recession, the endowment now stands at $214 million, down slightly from 2008, but up substantially from the $179 million it had banked at the close of 2006.
The New School is adhering to a strict “no comment” policy regarding Kerrey, “who gave notice at the school in May 2009, and whose contract expires next month”, says The Wrap.
May 26th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Typical industry c*nt, always thinking they are right and that money makes it all good. Blinded by their own ignorance, they actually believe that their way is the only way. Well, the “consultants” like Greg here, that is.
The execs know they are full of tripe, but they are cool with it. Not a bad life, if ya really think about it.
Greg, give it time. Eventually the house of cards will crumble and you’ll wish you had sauce to fall back on. Your exec buddies will be laughing, having wisely cashed out early or properly moved their money around while you’ll be scrambling along with all the other stuff suit industry consultants trying to chase down the last scraps. It’s coming soon, Greg, and it took outsiders to start it trembling.
May 26th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
I wonder if his lunch with an ASCAP representative was a ‘real’ as his claimed involvement with the FAC, as stated on his
Resume. ( which later appeared to be false, as none of the FAC admit to knowing who the fuck he is ).
Reality is in the eye of the beholder, as well as beauty and ‘taste’, apparently.
Just got my order of Sauce in the mail today, and haven’t yet opened it. Since I don’t touch the stuff it’s going as a
gift to a buddy of mine who is a ‘connosieur’ of such things, and we’ll see if it takes off
May 26th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Eventually Ill make it to one of the markets to try some sauce, but it seems Im always working out of town on fridays.
May 26th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Ok,
I unpacked it, and immediately smelled it .. it smelled really REALLY good.
My wife and I made Chili dogs with it.
Methinks we shall keep this one for ourselves
.
I’ll pass some along to my hot sauce obsessed pal .. I have a feeling he’s gonna love it.
May 26th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Greg/Bugboy:
1. Wow — you can’t imagine how downright honored I am, that you’d choose to name-check Li’l ol’ ME, in a (failed) attack-email to Jon.
I may be a lot of things, but at least I’m not a dishonest little shill who hides behind a Doctor Seuss alias, and pads his online “resume” with organizations who’ve never *heard* of me.
Nor am I a pretentious former roadie with delusions of grandeur. Not surprised that you had lunch with an EMI guy — isn’t it common practice for corporate drones to wine and dine their trophy whores? Just sayin’.
2. As to the “success” of the RIAA lawsuit campaign?
File-sharing continues to increase, and every attempt to “crack down” on it simply ends up with *your* side looking like the whiny corporate pond-scum they’ve demonstrated themselves to be time and time again. None of us really expect any better from them, being as they’ve spend decades preaching the purported virtues of “free markets”, while buying/bribing their way to ever-longer-term monopoly privileges under the banner of the “sacred right to property”.
Or should I say, “Right” to perpetual monopoly?
But hey, I understand that you’re probably contractually bound to keep repeating the same, tired, ill-informed, easily-refuted line of multinational, corporate bullshit. What’s really genuinely sad, is the fact that you’ve consistently failed to even beat a half-wit, redneck such as myself — who “never even made it out of Pennsylvania”.
As to your claim that Jon’s effort at offline entrepreneurship somehow doesn’t measure up against “showcase ventilation” (smirk) and suchlike, If I was in one of my less friendly/playful moods, I’d ask whether taking *that* much corporate dick doesn’t make you walk funny — but I’m trying to be nice.
Anyway, thanks for the “name-check”. Doubtless Dredd got a chuckle out of it, as well.
(Funny that you didn’t mention Surfer — the guy who “outed” you, both in terms of your “Sam I Am” persona *and* the (false?) claims on your LinkedIn profile. You’d *think* the person who single-handedly monkey-wrenched your quixotic li’l troll-fest would merit at least a *mention*.
L8r, Y’all!
May 26th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
@Dredd:
“I wonder if his lunch with an ASCAP representative was a ‘real’ as his claimed involvement with the FAC, as stated on his Resume. ( which later appeared to be false, as none of the FAC admit to knowing who the fuck he is ).”
Be honest: Would *you* admit to knowing him? Really?
He can’t even manage to formulate a coherent defense of what anybody with a brain already understands to be runaway corporate privilege, so he resorts to non-sequitur boilerplate about copyright as “the sacred right to property”.
http://questioncopyright.org/redefining_property
Seriously: if any of these corporate front-organizations want to keep even a vanishingly-small shred of credibility, they’d do well to distance themselves as far as possible from him.
May 26th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
lol. I missed this soap opera surrounding Sam I am. From what I gather he is part of the same coalition Billy Bragg is in, correct? I always thought nothing good can come from collaborating with people who support the same draconian measures the RIAA supports. I think they tried to use p2pnet to legitimize their rationality for supporting these measures by making it appear that disconnecting people who are ALLEGEDLY infringing copyrights is the best way to support artists.
Don’t waste your time on these fools. Sam I am said that the best artists are always compensated more than mediocre artists. I suppose the mighty talented Brittney Spears and all of the other manufactured artists and bands (even Paris Hilton sold more albums than some indie bands and no one knows what she actually sounds like when she sings.) are simply more talented and better than the artists who haven’t sold as many records.
I really like his comment to Jon regarding how he can also become a consultant and make tons of money. He left out the part about how Jon has to sell his soul and force himself to kiss every record label exec’s ass… every single day. This is how you climb the ladder in the corporate world. It’s not talent and intelligence that rises to the top, it’s kissing ass and telling people what they want to hear.
I have no doubt that Jon can make money being a “consultant” but only if he provides the answers they want to hear. If Jon provides intelligent and insightful essays that don’t support the RIAA’s point of view, he will not make any money. However, if his conclusions match their talking points, I agree that he can make money.
The thing is, some people need to be able to look themselves in the mirror without throwing up. I think Jon is one of those people.
May 26th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
I am another islander and I met Jon in Victoria in April when he started his hot sauce kick. I tried it and it blew me away, and I am not easily impressed.
I can totally see why Dredd would keep it to himself.
I have been coming here for about a year and this is the first time I have commented. I keep coming here because it is the ONLY site which matches a lot of what I believe too.
I live at the north end of VI but when Iam down in Victoria or Nanaimo I will be buying more Awesome Sauce for sure and I will enjoy it all the more knowing that it is helping Jon to keep going.
May 26th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
@Henry:
“Funny that you didn’t mention Surfer — the guy who “outed” you, both in terms of your “Sam I Am” persona *and* the (false?) claims on your LinkedIn profile. You’d *think* the person who single-handedly monkey-wrenched your quixotic li’l troll-fest would merit at least a *mention*.”
Mentioning would verify the truth of that statement beyond the final nail in the coffin.
@RW:
“In other words, you delete any comments that you don’t like. Thanks for admitting it…”
Jon’s included “Please no spam, attacking others, trolling, posting off-topic. Thanks.” under “Leave a Reply”. If Greg wishes to continue plaguing Jon with his troll rhetoric he can, and has does so via email.
On another note, though, “sponsoring a well written opposition piece” — with double spacings, no less! — might be remotely interesting, if only for the purposes of ripping its ridiculosity to bits.
May 26th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
@RW (or should I say “Gregg?):
Despite what you want to believe, deleting comments does *not* equal censorship. Start your own IP apologist idiocy blog.
Of course, that would require you to actually understand something about:
1. Understand the history of copy”right” law (Statute of anne, etc.)
2. Acknowledge the difference between TEMPORARY MONOPOLY PRIVILEGES like copyright and patents (which are *explicitly supposed to expire, and free whatever they monopolize) and the “sacred right of property”.
3. Acknowledge that “property” — far from being a “sacred right” — has changed in scope many times already, in history. (Hint: chattel slavery USED to be permitted. NOW it’s seen as a crime against humanity). Hell, the “sacred right to property” doesn’t even mean the cops won’t confiscate the baseball bat, if you use it to bash somebody’s head in.
You won’t do any of those things, because you *can’t*. You are either stupid, dishonest, a shill, or a wannabe.
@Drake:
“lol. I missed this soap opera surrounding Sam I am. From what I gather he is part of the same coalition Billy Bragg is in, correct? I always thought nothing good can come from collaborating with people who support the same draconian measures the RIAA supports. I think they tried to use p2pnet to legitimize their rationality for supporting these measures by making it appear that disconnecting people who are ALLEGEDLY infringing copyrights is the best way to support artists.”
Greg (“Sam I Am”) CLAIMED to be involved with FAC (the Featured Artists coalition) — where Billy Bragg is a board member.
Unfortunately for him, as far as anybody else can determine (up to and including just straight out asking FAC members), nobody involved with them has *ever* heard of him, even as a “consultant”.
Greg — and others — have repeatedly dangled this notion that if Jon would JOIN them, they’d make his life much easier.
Unfortunately for them, Jon is no whore — which is one of the reasons many of us respect him.
Far from “pandering” to folks like Dredd and I, Jon has repeatedly attempted to “bridge the gap” between p2p users/copyright skeptics, and the corporate media megaliths. The last such attempt was a2f2a (artists to fans to artists), which — predictably — turned into just another anti-p2p soapbox for Billy Bragg, Indiana Gregg, and Lily Allen.
Understandably, Jon caught a *hell* of a lot of flack from his fan-base, over it.
Eventually, Billy Bragg got pissed off, started whining about how he was being “mistreated”, and left. A2f2a basically died for all intents and purposes after that, because Bragg’s FAC pals (Lily Allen, etc.) understood that regurgitating corporate talking-points wasn’t anywhere near good enough.
May 26th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
I’ve just deleted a comment which suggests I delete tons of RWs because I don’t like what they say.
I don’t know why these people find it so difficult to understand I’m definitely biased in certain directions and I’m not about to let p2pnet turn into a sounding board for shills and trolls.
I’ve also been deleting posts by a Gargle lover (same old same old), and another long-time troll who’s suffering under the delusion that I don’t recognise him and his efforts.
I haven’t kept score, but at a guess, I’d say I delete three or four comments in any given month.
And I’ll keep on doing it.
Cheers!
PS: It might be the one Henry refers to above. I hadn’t seen his comment when I posted mine.
May 27th, 2010 at 12:53 am
Oh, for heaven’s sake, fellas, let’s be clear here: Jon referenced Sam I Am in his content and then deleted my response as he has done in the past. That’s all. A private note between the two of us has now become more content, so very well, I’ll address your post item by item.
I’m not a “paid shill” for any industry nor am I contractually bound to any one agenda. I’ve always had my own shop, always. I write what I believe is true and ethical, same as Jon does. I’ve never worked for the RIAA or the MPAA but my professional involvement in live event, touring music and trade show design/production for 30plus years has brought to me a good network of working pros in digital industry here and overseas. I’ve worked hard for a very long time and I’ve been lucky and now I’m living in NYC but getting around while I migrate from design into building a digital consultancy. It’s a creative and legal path available to anyone with talent, accountability and drive.
I’ve read and studied P2Pnet (and a host of others) since the early 2000’s to gather broad perspective, and on more than one occasion Jon has permitted alternative views. I thank him for that. But don’t misunderstand, I like good cooking sauce and I have a few in my kitchen at this moment but that’s not why we are here. And that’s not why Jon launched P2Pnet. The accountable real life players who run blogs and do the seminars and governmental meetings (like Masnick http://www.techdirt.com/ and Geist http://www.michaelgeist.ca/ on one side and Sheffner http://copyrightsandcampaigns.blogspot.com/ and Castle http://www.musictechpolicy.com/ on the other) are influencing public opinion, international policy, law, our digital future. I’ve been working in all that for a couple of years by now and Jon could readily do the same and earn a fine living for his family in the process.
Not by kissing anyone’s ass but instead by building a reliable brand that really stands for something and bringing a well organized and well documented A/V message to a live event that wants to hear (and will pay to hear) it from a guy who runs a P2P website. Who said the recording industry should be the focus of a Jon Newton campaign? Who said Jon should sell out? Not I. Jon should be targeting P2P advocacy, free speech and free culture groups, copyleft conventions, even P2P software developer trade shows, anyone who would benefit from and appreciate hearing his point of view. You’d be amazed at the money out there just waiting for the right people with some web-cred to show up and deliver and that was Jon’s whole point, right? He has 7 or 8 years in and still needs an income so instead of asking for donations with a “contribute” button, develop a salable presence in the P2P arena. The people actually involved are the ones who will influence this most and that was the point of my private letter to him. He chooses to make sauce instead. Fine. I see a huge opportunity willfully discarded. You may not. It’s a big world. Who cares, really?
As for Dreddsnik, I’ve enjoyed what Dredds has had to say over the years. It’s often a bit tinged with subtle bitterness from experiences he doesn’t share, but hey, it’s usually intelligent, informative, entertaining. What more could you ask? Accountability.
When he pretended his “online research” led to publishing my identity back in February (held privately only by Jon), I accepted it on the premise that he publish that research here and show us all how anyone with time and focus could have done the same thing. Big surprise, he didn’t of course, and to this day we’re still waiting. (Don’t hold your breath). So much for Dreddsnik’s credibility. (You never gave Surfer a mention and besides, Surfer has “fans” in much higher places than I’ll ever frequent.) I was in London in February 2009 at that nascent mash-up meeting/party that led to forming the FAC and that’s the truth. The folks there talked about the value of a coalition for recording artists all night. My post on their site was third, within minutes after the site launched because a friend from that same focus group tipped me to its launch. It’s still there, in fact. I never claimed to be a recording artist nor an FAC member.
http://www.featuredartistscoalition.com
You can read about my involvement here if you want, at the end of the thread:
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/36178.
And Henry? I actually hold an affectionate view of Henry. We both grew up in Pennsylvania. Henry’s the guy at the end of the bar, well into his beer, coulda been a contender, just, y’know, never actually tried. Henry is uneducated, lighthearted entertainment, pottymouthed, sure, but harmless. If you ever come to Manhattan Henry, look me up.
My lunch meeting last Sunday was indeed with an ASCAP exec I met at a NARIP meeting last month at the Flux Studios, http://www.fluxstudios.net/, and we discussed the successes of the RIAA lawsuit campaign. Much in life is perspective, don’t you think? Except that some of us actually do the homework, actually meet the players, listen and and learn and develop a business plan, ultimately knowing what we are talking (and writing) about. And inevitably being asked more for our opinion, in higher and more influential places.
At some point in a man’s career it comes time to stop doing what you do and start being paid instead for what you think. I’m completing that transition. And I’ve never had such fun and lively response until I started writing “Sam I Am” under my real name on seminar/event nametags.
Thanks, Jon.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:09 am
@jon:
Yeah, it was the one to which I was replying.
@DTS:
“On another note, though, “sponsoring a well written opposition piece” — with double spacings, no less! — might be remotely interesting, if only for the purposes of ripping its ridiculosity to bits.”
Several issues come to mind:
1. The notion of “sponsoring” implies that whoever writes the “opposition piece” (recycled RIAA boilerplate?) expects for Jon to *pay* him/her/it for that. Why in the *hell* would Jon — or anybody else with a brain — actually *PAY* someone to generate more propaganda/misinformation for the multinational corporate megaliths?
2. If he’s claiming that “well-written opposition pieces” against the copyright cartels requires Jon’s “sponsorship”, then he’s equally mistaken:
http://www.free-culture.cc/ — Lessig’s book “Free Culture”
http://questioncopyright.org/
http://www.techdirt.com/
http://www.techdirt.com/http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6283435552434112856#
The information is *amply* presented already — RIAA fanbois like Gregg are simply too stupid (or dishonest) to even *attempt* to refute it.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:47 am
Wow! WTF does this guy think he is/
Sheesh.
Anyway, john keep on keeping on. Do I agree with everything said on this site? Certainly not, but that makes you no less of a person. Keep on keepin on John.
Oh and BTW, to anyone who cares.
Typed on a windows machine. Lol!
Maybe it’ll be Ubuntu next who knows.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:29 am
Someone called Sam I am posts on Ars Technica occasionally, same rhetoric. probably the same person
May 27th, 2010 at 8:56 am
@ Greg:
There’s a huge difference between advocacy and consultancy and I have no plans to switch the one for the other.
I’m making Dad’s Wildfire not because it’s Aswesome Sauce, which it is, and it’s an experience in and of itself, but so I can keep on saying what I think and provide a place where other people can do the same.
And that’s enough for me.
Cheers!
PS – A couple of people asked if I can send them some sauce. We’ve figured out how to make vacuum packs, but it costs as much to send one to the US (or anywhere else) as it does for the sauce itself. But I can mail $11.99 250 ml vacuum packs anywhere in Canada. http://www.wildfiresauce.com/?page_id=2
May 27th, 2010 at 9:16 am
@Jon: Thanks for letting one last post from Sam through. I’ll give him one thing – in this post at least he comes across well written. I don’t normally read the comments on most sites since I’m ever so easily drawn into flame wars. I blame the Irish in me. I’ve not read many of his other comments because, well, I got shit to do.
It is the industry consultants like him that make me thankful I shuttered tinfoil.music and quit my last band days before they signed a contract. They are well meaning and they really do believe they are helping those around them. They are kind of like Mormons or Scientologists.
Sam, sometimes it’s not all about the monetization. Sometimes people are genuinely happy in their current station doing what they are doing. A couple of times I was offered some pretty significant cash for tinfoil.music and turned it down. I had a decent day job and the site was paying for itself, so why would I sell my only child at the time?
Now, if you know of anyone who wants to buy my real child, you let me know. She’s only 4, so there’s not many miles on the odometer yet.
May 27th, 2010 at 10:32 am
not just trolls lurk u know….
May 27th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
@Greg:
1. Your not a “paid shill”? The corporate misinformation-machine isn’t *paying* you to recycle their talking-points (oops, I mean “stand up for your beliefs)? But, I thought your whole deal was “monetizing content”: there’s obviously no “monetization” going on here.
2. As to the “contractually bound” stuff, the fact that you misunderstood something so obviously intended as humor speaks volumes in and of itself.
3.”Building up a reliable online brand”: what, you mean like *you’ve* done for the last several years, via trolling any/every technology/digital-freedom related board with the same easily-refuted nonsense? I may be a “potty mouth” (SHIT yeah!), but *you* seem do be a glutton for punishment, seeing as it always plays out the same way, and all.
Now, what any of that “online brand” boilerplate has to do with the fact that Jon’s selling sauce, I have no idea. Sure, he’s plugged the sauce a few times here, but the two projects — Awesome Sauce and p2pnet — are *two totally different things.
(The fact that you dissed him about the sauce, in the email, just proves that don’t know the difference.)
4. “(You never gave Surfer a mention and besides, Surfer has “fans” in much higher places than I’ll ever frequent.)”
*WHO* never “gave Surfer a mention?” I certainly mentioned him. Didn’t really say anything about “fans”, either, as I recall.
Trust me, you probably have a few “fans” somewhere, as well.
5. “You can read about my involvement with FAC”:
Feh. So you trolled/spammed the FAC site (like you do every other even *halfway* topical board.
Hint: Linking to *your own (extremely dubious) claims here on p2pnet isn’t particularly helpful. You could, oh I dunno, provide some kind of *actual off-site evidence*, but none of us really expected you to do that — coherent argument and factual accuracy isn’t exactly *your* side’s strong-suit (VCR = Boston Strangler, “Home taping is killing music”, etc.)
6. “The Real-world players who run blogs”:
Contradiction in terms: you can *either* (attempt to) diss p2pnet/Jon/etc. for being a “blogger” (and thus, *merely* online — and supposedly disconnected from the “real world”),
OR you can admit that what goes on *online* is EVERY BIT AS “REAL”* as off, in that it has “real-world” consequences.
Oddly, the whole thrust of what passes for *your side’s* “argument” has *always been* that the “online” activity of copying/transferring files is *exactly* equivalent to walking into a shop and stealing physical product (a CD.) Oh wait, I forgot — also, ringtones supposedly count as “public performance”.
You can’t really have it both ways, Greg — either we’re irrelevant because the “real-world” players have *(physical* meet-ups and such, or we’re not. I guess you never heard of “teleconferencing”? (Your corporate overlords do it *all* the time, interestingly enough.)
7. Hint: lurking around the edges of a “real-world conference” (or even a “nascent mashup-party in London”), doesn’t make you a “consultant”, any more than loitering around outside the local Radio Shack makes you an electronics expert.
8. Sure, Greg — you’re “influencing international policy, laws…our digital future”.
(Just like Prohibition supporters actually curtailed drunken-ness.)
(Just like overturning Roe V. Wade would magically stop all abortions.)
Hint: there *IS* such a thing as “bad law” — for instance, pretty much everything related to (so-called) “Intellectual property” over the last decade — thanks, primarily, to the actions of *your* corporate pals.
Oddly enough, the only thing they’ve managed to accomplish via all this “influencing” and “real-world conference attendance” (not to mention the “Captain Copyright” comic-book!), is to alienate an entire generation of teens/anybody who is even halfway technically literate, lead to an explosion of new p2p applications, and lead to the “free culture” and creative-commons movements.
(Then again, egregiously bad conduct by corporate lobbyists *has* led to unfavorable consequences for industry concerned — as Big Tobacco learned some years back).
Honestly, Greg — I should never have mentioned it. The Lawsuits, propaganda, and lobbying for more bad “law” are working swimmingly — at fast-discrediting the entire notion of “Intellectual property” *and* an unstoppable, ever-increasing amount of “online piracy” which has been damn near ubiquitous for (as you put it in another context) “an unfettered decade”.
So go on: keep portraying yourself as some kind of “Big fish”.
The fact remains that — as was stated earlier — absolutely *NONE* of the “major players” involved with FAC — knew anything about you.
As for the other claims — talking to Lessig at a “meet and greet” after a conference, etc. — like, ZOMG! One time, there was this free concert at a local high-school gym, and, like, I got to say “Hi” to Helen Reddy/get her autograph!
(Needless to say, she subsequently dedicated her next several albums to me, and has cited the meeting as a watershed-moment in her life.)
May 27th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
And yes, He *is* the same guy as on Ars Technica — and Techdirt — and Wired.com — and tons of other blogs and forums.
Oddly enough, if his whole deal is about “getting PAID for what you think”, then — UNLESS he types really, really fast, then millisecond he spends spamming boards/sending snotty emails/kvetching about “our digital future” is another millisecond where *he’s NOT GETTING PAID!*.
OMFG!, Like, he’s not “monetizing his IP!” We get the “privilege” of reading his drivel *for FREE*>
Same goes for attending conference — unless he gets PAID to attend them, in which case he is (surprise surprise) LYING about not being a “paid shill”.
In either case, he’s not “monetizing his IP”. OMG! Think of all the precious, precious “showcase ventilation”-related money he loses every time he clicks “send”, to reply to my (supposedly) “uneducated” statements — NONE of which he has ever successfully refuted, by the way.
Can’t have it both ways, Greg — either you’re “monetizing your IP”, or you’re not.
“At some point in a man’s career it comes time to stop doing what you do and start being paid instead for what you think. I’m completing that transition. And I’ve never had such fun and lively response until I started writing “Sam I Am” under my real name on seminar/event nametags. Thanks, Jon.”
So Gregg’s “completing the transition” from UNPAID, pretentious, ill-informed spammer/troll, to PAID conference-attendee.
Maybe he’s correct when he claims:
“I’m not a “paid shill” for any industry nor am I contractually bound to any one agenda. I’ve always had my own shop, always. I write what I believe is true and ethical, same as Jon does.”
Wait — it *all* makes sense, now!
1. Spend years establishing a “reliable online brand” as a disgruntled/ill-informed RIAA apologist. (And providing vast amounts of “cultural product” gratis — “For free!”)
2. Instigate flame-wars, and get repeatedly “troll-smashed” anywhere/everywhere you can.
3. Start attending “real-world conferences” and “nascent mashup parties”. Don’t worry if nobody actually *knows* you’re there.
4. Begin including your ONLINE troll-alias on the nametags at said conferences. Given the fact that the *paid* corporate shills troll many of the same boards (and get PAID for it — “IP Monetization!”), this is sure to eventually provoke a “lively response”.
5. Attempt to cozy up to the *same* corporate overlords whose asses you’ve been (virtually) kissing for nearly a decade as an (unpaid) apologist/shill. If all goes according to play — voilà! — you’ll be able to “make the transition” from pretentious, ill-informed (unpaid) troll/shill, to pretentious, ill-informed PAID troll/shill. (Maybe you’ll even score a few lunch dates in the process!).
If you were *really* “making the transition”, you wouldn’t be shit-talking Jon via email about his “Awesome Sauce”, and you *damn* sure wouldn’t have replied to this thread.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
’7. Hint: lurking around the edges of a “real-world conference” (or even a “nascent mashup-party in London”), doesn’t make you a “consultant”, any more than loitering around outside the local Radio Shack makes you an electronics expert.’
MUA AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH, that one had to hurt.. did you see the red mark it left !?!?!?
Prodigy has had a single out for years, called ‘Smack My Bitch Up’.
eloquent, concise, and un-sophistic as always Henry..
May 27th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
“eloquent, concise, and un-sophistic as always Henry..”
Many thanks. Y’know, I actually do feel (somewhat) bad for Ol’ Greg:
I mean, he’s so desperate to break into the world of “paid corporate whore” (or should we call it “propaganda monetization?), but he keeps shooting himself in the foot over and over and over.
He just *couldn’t* resist the temptation to needle Jon about the “Awesome Sauce” project (just like Billy Bragg thought it was a good idea to diss him about the advertising/money troubles — as though that actually had *anything* to do with runaway copy”right” law…)
He’s probably *not* a “paid shill” — let alone a paid conference attendee or lobbyist. Hell, he can’t even manage to successfully refute a “half-educated pottymouth” like me.
Maybe if he’d refrained from shit-talking Jon about the Sauce, he wouldn’t have ended up looking stupid — as per usual.
But he couldn’t — also well within his established M.O.
I’d say he was dumb as a bag of hammers, but I don’t want to insult the hammers…..
May 27th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
In an strange way I have to somewhat agree with Sam.
May 27th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
“In an strange way I have to somewhat agree with Sam.”
Okay, now I’m curious:
About which part, exactly?
May 27th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The way I read it, Sam is basically telling Jon he has done a wonderful job on this site and it’s shameful he is putting it on the side burner. Sam actually praises him in the above pasted Email.
Although Jon has a winning product with the hot sauce (which is also a fantastic BBQ sauce), Sam is telling him he is nuts for wasting time on it to generate money instead of using his proven writing skills that lay others to waste.
In both cases (well I say both, Sam says one) a well put together business plan and reaching out to the right people should secure Jon the funds he needs to continue what he is best at. Writing.
I agree with Sam. Jon has a talent. However, it’s easier said than done…
May 27th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
@ RW: “putting it on the side burner … ”
p2pnet isn’t on the side burner. Not even nearly. I’m not spending as much time on it as I used to, but it’s still here.
“a well put together business plan … ”
p2pnet isn’t a business site. It isn’t entrepreneurial, as I’ve said tons of times.
“reaching out to the right people”
Who might they be? heh
“needs to continue what he is best at. Writing.”
I’m also pretty good at making and marketing Awesome Sauce. Let’s give it a year and see where I’m at with it and p2pnet.
No. Wait. Let’s give it six months.
Cheers!
May 27th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
I was right:
Greg Admits it:
“Anyway, after a long and successful run as a Manhattan based designer/producer of special event all over the world, (music, fashion, industrial show) I’ve been looking for whatever might be next and reviewing the pirate sites for years.”
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/36178
1. If his run as a “manhattan-based designer/producer of special events all over the world” was so “long and successful”, then why is he “looking for whatever might be next”? Has-been, or “never even was?” I wonder.
2. “Reviewing the Pirate sites for years”.
“Reviewing” == “trolling and starting flame-wars.”
“For years” == “Ever since the Napster fiasco demonstrated that the potential for *big money and prestige* by cashing in on the latest moral panic — the “crisis” of “online piracy”.
(just like those “deprogrammers” cashed in on the “satanic ritual abuse” scare back in the ’80s, and various pseudo-intellectual kooks cashed in on the “back-masking” controversy.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_devil
Greg’s whole thing isn’t about “our digital future” or “the free and open network we all share”, or anything like that.
Greg is a (fading) fashion-show designer desperately trying to break into the fast-paced, high-prestige world of “paid corporate shill”.
THIS is why he’s always strenuously denied being one — up until relatively recently, he’s been a wannabe.
Hell, it makes sense, in a way — by his own admission, he resents the RIAA member-corporations “extorting” him every time he uses some of their “cultural product” in one of his shows, but at the same time, he’s got just enough of that “Gordon Gecko” thing going on, that he can’t help but start to drool whenever he considers that some of their ill-gotten gains from runaway copyright law could be *HIS* — and all he has to do, is cozy up to them, first.
Oddly enough (for somebody so clearly techno-phobic, and outright hostile to “our digital world”), his whole “career strategy” in regard to “monetizing” his conference attendance has *already* been perfected, of all places, in Second Life:
According to Wikipedia:
“The virtual world simulator Second Life features many locations where users avatars may “camp” in order to earn “Linden dollars”, the currency of the virtual world. Usually set up by other users, camping locations might involve the avatar doing an activity, or simply sitting and doing nothing; a certain number of Linden dollars (which vary from place to place) are paid out based upon how long an avatar camps.”
The only problem Greg has, is that he’s not actually any GOOD at being an RIAA apologist/shill (paid or otherwise).
To be honest, I feel bad for the poor guy — it must be downright humiliating to realize that Indiana Gregg (of all people) makes a better “anti-piracy activist” than you do. (Hell, she even has her own website now — http://www.kerchoonz.com.)
(And to think — all SHE had to do to become “famous”, was provoke a flame-war with the TPB guys.).
Greg’s been troll-smashed damn near everywhere he posts, and he *still* can’t “make the grade.”
Remember kids, Jack Valenti probably got paid for his infamous (and laughable) comparison of the VCR to the Boston Strangler.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Maybe if Greg wants to “monetize his IP”, he should try THIS:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/
They’ll pay him a few dollars for every post he writes on the “evil crisis of p2p piracy”.
Better way to “montetize” his idiotic trolling than trying to become the next Jack Valenti.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
yup, I really don’t have to say anything do I ?
May 27th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
@dredd:
Nah — I saved you all the effort of troll-smashing him (yet again).
I’ve been thinking about what the one Reader’s write who “somewhat agreed with Sam” posted:
“Although Jon has a winning product with the hot sauce (which is also a fantastic BBQ sauce), Sam is telling him he is nuts for wasting time on it to generate money instead of using his proven writing skills that lay others to waste.”
“In both cases (well I say both, Sam says one) a well put together business plan and reaching out to the right people should secure Jon the funds he needs to continue what he is best at. Writing.”
Why, exactly?
1. Have you actually tried the sauce, or are you just bragging on it? I’m just curious, because I haven’t tried it (yet), although if I can figure a way to get some, I’m game.
Let’s assume that you have: how exactly has the work put in on the sauce “taken away” from writing that might — or might NOT have — happened on p2pnet? I assume you watched the finale of “Lost”. Why did you do that, as opposed to doing whatever (money-based) activity “you’re best at?”
2. You also assume that it’s a solid strategic move to *ever* “put all your eggs into one basket”. I don’t think so — multiple income-streams have *always* been a solid economic strategy — hence (for example) musicians who record albums, tour, AND sell merchandise.
Read back over the original email, and it becomes amply clear that Greg was NOT “complimenting” Jon, by ANY stretch of the imagination:L’
“Is this what you really want? Sauce? One professional 40 minute presentation would help solidify your stature and earn you years of culinary sales in a single business trip.”
A “professional, 40-minute presentation” to WHOM, exactly?
The dying dinosaurs Greg’s been bootlicking for years? Or maybe the kind of folks to whom Larry Lessig, Richard Stallman, “Students for a free culture” etc. HAVE BEEN SPEAKING FOR YEARS.
Not to mention Rick Falkvinge.
“Do you take yourself seriously anymore?”
Of course Jon takes himself seriously. He — and many of us — also take “defending the culture from runaway corporate privilege masquerading as IP ‘law’” seriously. The question is: does Greg take *himself* seriously? Obviously nobody (relevant) does.
Methinks Greg should take his *own* advice, and stick to what he’s good at — “showcase ventilation”.
(Oh wait — if he was actually *good* at that, he wouldn’t be jonesing for “whatever may come next”.)
*sigh*. Y’know, I’ve squashed this particular “Roach” so many times now, it’s not even a challenge.
Damn, I’m bored.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
@multiple income streams:
Multinational corporate executives who *also* have an investment portfolio.
Martha Stewart (Over-rated pseudo-”homemaker” who *also* has a thriving “sideline” hawking a line of designer paint and pillows at KMart.
Wannabe corporate-lobbyists who are *also* into “showcase ventilation”.
Etc. etc. etc.
May 27th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
“I’ve just deleted a comment which suggests I delete tons of RWs because I don’t like what they say.”
That would be my comment you deleted and it wasn’t suggesting anything, it was stating fact.
“I don’t know why these people find it so difficult to understand I’m definitely biased in certain directions and I’m not about to let p2pnet turn into a sounding board for shills and trolls.”
More lies. You’ve deleted tons of my messages that were neither trolling nor shilling, although I truly doubt that in your rabid anti-everything state of mind, you can tell the difference.
“I haven’t kept score, but at a guess, I’d say I delete three or four comments in any given month.”
This is the biggest piece of bullshit you’ve posted so far.
“And I’ll keep on doing it.”
The moderators on most sites look through the comments and decide if a particular comment is abusive enough to warrant deletion, usually erring on the side of caution. You go through the comments deciding which ones, in your opinion, deserve to stay. Any you don’t see a problem with this?
Maybe the other posters here believe your lies, but I know differently. Maybe I should start taking a screenshot of every comment I post here so that I’ll have proof when you delete them. Then I can expose this myth that you only delete a select few comments each month.
May 28th, 2010 at 12:17 am
@ *NOT* Greg
http://www.codeismylife.com/ascii_middle_finger/25041.html
Meanwhile, here’s an idea for you: start your own blog and then you can post whatever you like.
Cheers!
May 28th, 2010 at 1:10 am
@Not Greg:
1. “Neither trolling nor shilling”:
Exceedingly hard to believe, given the tone or your latest response.
2. @re: jon’s comment policy:
You *really* think he deletes the vast majority of comments, only cherry-picking the ones he wants to have stay?
Evidence? (Other than the fact that he — justifiably — obviously tends to delete your bullshit on general principles.)
Is this TAM (The Anti-Mike) from over on Techdirt? You’re paranoid/hostile enough to be him/her/it — complete with the persecution complex we all remember so well.
3. If you’re “NOT GREGG!!!!!” — then who are you? Pick a handle, any ol’ handle.
Hell, characters from childrens’ literature seem to be popular — call yourself “Winnie” (“the pooh” === YOUR A SHIT-HEAD!)
Damn…..I’m even bored with THIS, now!
May 28th, 2010 at 7:28 am
“Exceedingly hard to believe, given the tone or your latest response.”
What kind of a response would you expect from me after having had dozens of my messages deleted for no reason other than that Jon didn’t like them?
I post on other sites and on occasion I even get into arguments, but other than on the IMDb (which deletes posts and accounts at the drop of a hat), I’ve never had any of my posts deleted. Not from Ars Technica (haven’t been there in a while), not from Techdirt, or any other site I post to. I post my opinion and then wait. If people reply to me, I reply back and answer whatever points they raise. Or I might comment on something someone else has said. That’s how a conversation is supposed to work. Jon would have you believe that I simply come back and post the same message over and over whether anyone else has replied or not. I only do that when he keeps deleting my comments for no valid reason.
Are my posts really so bad that the other users here need to be shielded from them? Is Jon afraid that if I post something unpopular, the other users won’t be able to handle it?
Frankly, I’ve lost pretty much all respect for this site. After seeing how many of my comments get deleted, how do I know that he isn’t doing the same to lots of others? I can’t even defend myself because he just deletes my posts.
“You *really* think he deletes the vast majority of comments, only cherry-picking the ones he wants to have stay?
Evidence? (Other than the fact that he — justifiably — obviously tends to delete your bullshit on general principles.)”
Not that you’ll ever see this, but…
He took on G*ga-news as a sponsor and flat out swore that he wasn’t censoring comments critical of the company. When I posted a comment listing where people could get equivalent use-net access for less, he deleted my post claiming I was a shill for the company. I then posted a completely neutral post with a link to a site with user-rated comparisons of use-net providers. He deleted it. More recently, in the post about Duke University shutting down its use-net server, it’s mentioned that the students can still use Google Groups. I posted a comment saying that they could buy a personal account and quoting some example prices, although I did not list any specific companies. That was deleted because Jon claimed that it read like an advertisement. I asked how it could be an advertisement when I didn’t mention any names (I also used foul language because I was pissed off). Deleted. Surfer posted articles about he laughs at Hollywood while downloading their latest movies from some super-secret underground network. He then told people to stop using every current file sharing program because they’re unsafe. I posted a comment mentioning “cyber-locker” sites and use-net as safe altermatives. Deleted. Also note that you can’t mention the name of the former sponsor or the service use-net with their proper spellings because both have been added to the spam filter, despite Jon claiming that neither was being censored.
Jon is rabidly opposed to Google Street View, often stating that it should be opt-in only. When I asked how that would work, his answer was basically that they could magic-up a solution. When I pointed out the impossibility of making something like Street View as a purely opt-in venture, he deleted my post. He’s deleted every post I’ve made where I’ve pointed out that doing it as purely opt-in would leave it lacking so many areas as to make the entire project useless. He deletes every post I make pointing out that Street View doesn’t show anything that you couldn’t see when driving along those streets yourself. He even deleted a comment I made where I posted how using Street View had helped me find the name of a business so that I could call them to ask if they carried a particular product without wasting a physical trip there. No bashing, no mocking, just a simple, true story about how Street View could be useful, posted in response to a rant about how evil “Sneak View” is. Deleted.
I’ve been told in no uncertain terms that nobody should every have their photo taken or used without permission, even if they only appear as a blurry image in the background of a photo. When I ask if Jon follows the same rules, he deletes my post. I ask for a statement that he either abides by the same rules he wants to impose on Google, or that he thinks he shouldn’t have to follow those same opt-in only rules and he deletes my post.
I’ve also been told that it’s flat-out illegal in Canada to take anyone’s photo or use their image without permission. I ask how live news reports are able to show dozens of people on the street and un-blurred license plates, the very things which are claimed to be illegal. Deleted.
Jon does a post about someone arrested for child porn. Many in the comments want to see the guy strung up. I point out that what’s illegal in one country may be legal in another and that people have been arrested for completely legal porn that LOOKS underage. Deleted because Jon claimed that it was trying to justify child porn.
Of course you only have my word for the above, since there’s no record of any of the deleted posts, although there will be from this point on. I’ve started keeping copies of everything I post, along with screenshots to prove that it WAS posted.
You asked for evidence, how about looking at it the other way; How do you know that Jon doesn’t delete any post he doesn’t like? All you have is his word. Unless you managed to see the post before it was deleted, or someone quotes from it, like you did with my message, how do you know it was ever there? Jon can delete not only the original comment, but all references to it and you’ll never know. How can you trust a site where the owner has admitted to deleting comments that he considers “of no consequence”?
“Is this TAM (The Anti-Mike) from over on Techdirt? You’re paranoid/hostile enough to be him/her/it — complete with the persecution complex we all remember so well.”
Nope, wrong again. I post on Techdirt occasionally, but not with that name.
“3. If you’re “NOT GREGG!!!!!” — then who are you? Pick a handle, any ol’ handle.
Hell, characters from childrens’ literature seem to be popular — call yourself “Winnie” (”the pooh” === YOUR A SHIT-HEAD!)”
I used to post with a handle. I stopped when I saw the shotgun-style “moderation” Jon was practicing. Using a name just makes it easier for him to spot my posts. At least this way he actually has to read a little or them before reaching for the Delete key.
May 28th, 2010 at 8:55 am
@ RW: “What kind of a response … ”
You repeatedly posted ‘comments’ slagging a then p2pnet advertiser. I deleted them. You repeatedly posted whiny ‘comments’ praising Gargle Sneak View with apples-to-oranges comparisons. I deleted them.
I’ve left your latest piece of long-winded moaning up, but it’s the last time.
Feel free to post (almost) anything you like on any subject you like. Once or twice. But not over and over and over and over. If you do, you’ll be deleted. Again.
And just to remind you and other trolls, p2pnet is a personal site.
Cheers!
May 28th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Basically dude, you pissed off the site owner and operator. He has every right to do what he wants on his own site.
Remember this, when you repeatedly piss someone off, even if you change or are less offensive or are actually behaving as they want them to, you are subject to the bias generated before because of your past behaviour. It’s human nature and it takes a long time to prove you’ve changed. Even then, with some people, they will always view you the same regardless of how much you have changed.
The moral of the story is don’t let things get to that level, figure out how you can dissent without causing a ruckus. It doesn’t matter if other sites didn’t delete you and this one did, because they are run by different people. You may not have behaved the same on those sites as here, despite feeling you are being yourself.
Each person is different and what one person can tolerate others cannot.
If you don’t like your posts being deleted then just don’t waste your time commenting. It’s that simple. Let it go, in the grand scheme of things it isn’t worth it!
Seriously, I know what it’s like to want to “correct” people and forums are where this occurs, but who the hell cares? What does it amount to when you spend hours arguing with someone you’ll never meet on some website? Neither of you are going to listen, so why give in and why waste your time? You can win by not engaging! Let the other person feel all good for spending hours of their time arguing over some useless garbage and “winning” because you stopped replying.
Let them feel they’ve won without wasting your time by simply not engaging them! It’s just that simple.
Think about it, this is the Internet, these are forums, but in the grand scheme of life, this is no different then arguing via a wall in a bathroom. What does it really do? Nothing but waste time and energy.
Use your time and energy wisely, healthy debate is great if it comes with some sort of result, like enlightenment on the part of both parties or even some sort of solution to a problem. Unhealthy debating, or mudslinging, isn’t worth it and it is a sign that you need to re-asses your priorities to what really matters. If you’re hung up on what someone posted on some site, you have bigger issues than what you are “debating” with them about.
Cheers!
May 28th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I disagree with Jon’s stance on Street View, quite strongly.
I’ve posted such. I also tend to believe that Opt In is unworkable, and that
street View isn’t the big ‘Boogie Man’ that so many think it is.
My comments don’t get deleted.
Maybe that’s because I don’t act like an ass about it.
Don’t present it like a monkey slinging turds and your posts just ‘might’ no get deleted.
( BTW, some of my posts HAVE been deleted in various threads, and in hindsight, rightly so )
May 29th, 2010 at 3:01 am
@Dredd:
1. Agreed about Street View (and, to some degree, Google, as well.)
I personally don’t see them as totally evil. They’re significantly better than BP, for example.
But Jon has his views on that score, so I don’t relentlessly yammer on about being more Pro-google than he is.
2. I’ve had strenuous disputes with damn near everybody on this site at one time or another — for example, my DPI and “net neutrality” views. Hell, Crosbie and I got into a dust-up at one point, over whether or not I’m an “IP nihilist” (still haven’t quite figured out what “intellectual property” could possible mean outside the context of State-granted monopoly privileges like copyright, btw.)
But there again — no matter how excitable or intense I might become, I genuinely do eventually try to calm down, apologize if needed, and generally be cool about the whole thing.
(I “troll smash” Greg Roach primarily because — whatever his protestations to the contrary — it’s become amply evident that he’s simply here to selectively “misunderstand” the whole p2p/copyright-reform/IP skeptic thing, reiterate RIAA boilerplate, and/or take pissy shots at Jon, me, or others.
In other words: because he’s a dickhead.
Now, does any of this sound at all familiar, RW?
Just curious.
On a related note: if you’ve “lost all respect for this site”, why are you so hell-bent on getting your posts seen here?
Trying to get some “online street-cred” from being a “p2pnet contributor?”
May 29th, 2010 at 8:41 am
@ Henry, Dredd, trolls of all varieties, Mark Zuckerman, Eric Schmidt, and anyone else who wants to know, as I’ve said many, many times, what I detest about Gargle is its policy of assumption: it ‘assumes’ everyone is OK about being included in, forcing them to ask to be removed if they even know they’ve been opted in in the first place. And I detest the way it’s trying to influence every aspect of human life via its many tentacles [ http://www.p2pnet.net/story/39910 ]
Same for Fa#ebook and others of its ilk. As I said about Fa$ebook in my ‘Everybody Draw Jesus as a Hamburger Day’ group ] http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=109488709095498 ] “I really like Facebook, the free-ranging, free-flowing, interactive forum. But I intensely dislike Fa$ebook, the cynical corporate privacy data mining operation.”
Ditto Gargoyle. It’s no accident it’s being attacked by privacy commissioners around the world because of its Sneak View data scooping ‘accidents’.
So if you guys want to keep on pretending Google is relatively harmless, please do. But I’m here to tell you not that you’re wrong IMHO, but that you are wrong.
“They’re significantly better than BP … ” Apples and oranges.
OK?
Cheers!