Comments on: IE7 versus Firefox

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 05:36:28 +0000

IE7 doesn’t even exist, period.
Wait until IE7 is actually in the market, and then we will talk.
I guess it will be like IE7 vs Firefox 3.2
How long do we have wait for that? 3 years?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:24:28 +0000

IE7 will relace ActiveX with another proprietary non standard compliant clientside scripting engine. It will be specifically designed to break Firefox and Opera. Open source advocates can cry till they are blue in their face, but MS will claim that it is improving security and firefox incompatibility is just collateral “unintentional” damage. The FUD of Microsoft will saturate the media and IE7 will regain the marketshare. Open source community will be back at square one.

The real victim of MS’s vendor lock policies are the big corps who spend billions of $s in PCs. They dont seem to care about vendor lock and the cost to the bottom line. If you sell a product and your clients are willing to pay any amount you charge and will not defect to the competitor, will you behave any differently than MS?

Dont blame MS. Blame its docile apathetic dumbed down consumers.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:42:17 +0000

If she answers this question truthfully and honestly we can discern how unbiased the article is.

How many TV/VCR combo she ahs bought and why is it the most popular thing in your view?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:14:08 +0000

But who, in their right mind, could possibly believe Bill?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:55:34 +0000

It’s time the open-source worked at MARKETING of easy WYSIWYG website development software that produces fully W3C compliant code.

Without this there are too many website companies that only work with IE

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:09:54 +0000

Back in -94 – -95, we talked about MSIE extensions and Netscape extensions. We didn’t really want to use either, so allready then there was much awareness of the standards as such.

An other problem has come. Now MSIE (that after all is the most used browser) doesn’t even show the standards correctly.

I do program for the net (PHP, mostly) and I hate that I have to write several versions of some of the actions I want the app to preform, asking for the browser version to find out which version to run.
That should not be neccesary.

I don’t think IE7 will adress that problem at all, this being a version made for security, not for better functionallity.

A little note to Microsoft:
I do not think you’ll earn less money if you follow the standards and drop your lock-in-methods. There is no real reason why you should be the company that everybody loves to hate.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:09:29 +0000

Back in -94 – -95, we talked about MSIE extensions and Netscape extensions. We didn’t really want to use either, so allready then there was much awareness of the standards as such.

An other problem has come. Now MSIE (that after all is the most used browser) doesn’t even show the standards correctly.

I don’t think IE7 will adress that problem at all, this being a version made for security, not for better functionallity.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:56:09 +0000

Just like trusted computing.

Microsoft has dragged out yet another old play from the 90’s playbook that got them in so much trouble with the anti-trust people.

Announce a product way before you actually do any work on it. This causes people to possibly hold back on making a change to Firefox because “Bills says IE7 coming real soon now”.

Just another method to stem the defection of disillusioned users plagued by violations, invasions and infections.

If you have believed Bill in the past, you know what I am talking about.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Bar
cdbaric@yahoo.com

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:53:50 +0000

It’s about time the lame users at C|Net learned a few things about Firefox before comparing it to a mental exaggeration of a browser that doesn’t yet exist. They can favor Microsoft all they want, the battle is slowly tipping in the right direction as time goes by still..

Compliments to Phillippe Verdy for the excellent response.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:09:56 +0000

FireFox, The browser which burns Spyware Corporations like wildfire. They deserve a medal of honor for this.

Robert M. Stockmann
stock@stokkie.net

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:21:08 +0000

“wake up ppl , forget the blasted security thing.”
This whole thing is about “security”. How about YOU wake up and realize the fact that 99% of the vulnerabilities out there are specifically written FOR IE, NOT for Mozilla, or some other product.

Microsoft has THE worst security record known to man. Trusting IE for browsing? Not exactly the smartest idea, unless you LIKE spyware, scumware and the like. Wake up and smell the coffee here. Microsoft is just trying to make the competition look bad, and they’ll resort to anything to do that, from lies (TCO of Windows cheaper than linux? Yeah right) to whatever it takes just to get the job done. They’ve done it in the past (DrDos, anyone?) and they’ll do it again.

I haven’t even touched standards here. Web standards have changed so many times over the years, but has IE changed to implement them? No, not at all. They’ve implemented bug fixes (after months of “testing”), but nothing to address standards changes and implementations.

My bet? Firefox will grow stronger over the years. There is no question that IE may (may) improve, but it’ll never take the place of Firefox or Mozilla.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 04:48:39 +0000

It’s not quite that Netscape 4 was so bad. It’s peer at the time, IE 3 was much worse. It’s just that that’s when Microsoft killed the browser market, so there was never a decent Netscape 5.

Whatever you think of NS bloat, etc. It worked remarkably well at the time. There just was no (profit-based) rationale to build a better Netscape browser as long as the writing was on the wall that Microsoft was going to bundle to it’s heart’s content.

But the Mozilla folks kept plugging away and built something great. Much more portable than the original Netscape, and much more stable on non-windows platforms (the Windows NS4 was pretty solid).

Now, the XUL decision threw a big wrench into the timeline, but with all of the illegal IE bundling contracts, etc., who knows if a quicker, less portable Netscape 5 would have made much difference. Hell, who knows if Firefox’ll make that much difference. I sure hope so.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:21:49 +0000

It’s not about which browser is best (tip: Firefox rocks!)
It’s about accepting to follow standards that define the best experience (tip: CSS3, XHTML), with the least risks (tip: which browser will use any ActiveX that has full system access without any warning?)

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:00:32 +0000

I lived through the browser wars, back in the end of the last decade, between Netscape and IE.Then there was four years of browser peace and IE took all over the world. Suddenly the son of Netscape came back for Revenge. Another Browser war is taking place.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:58:31 +0000

this really bothers me:
coz the fight seemed to hav been turned into microsoft vs open source and the issue is all abt security.

wake up ppl , forget the blasted security thing. look for a better browsing experience, or if u r still using IE then change your brwser and ’start browsing’ .

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:48:18 +0000

There are quite a few sites that still insist on IE, but their numbers are dwindling. For years I have had to put up with my needs as auser being ignored because I use a different operating system. Now Microsoft get to see how it feels