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	<title>Comments on: Neil Diamond and Firefox infection</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-24585</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-24585</guid>
		<description>I can't use FireFox; it is chock full of infections and adware. 

Weclome to becoming mainstream -- now you people have to deal with success too.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t use FireFox; it is chock full of infections and adware. </p>
<p>Weclome to becoming mainstream &#8212; now you people have to deal with success too.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-18636</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-18636</guid>
		<description>Common culprit is Java....how makes this Firefox's guilty?....I mean, how many browsers did the same?

Sounds more like anti Firefox rant than anything else. As the rest of the people here said, nothing is 100% secure....at the very end is in the users hands.

I once built a machine for a friend.....once every month I had to clean up over 4000 whatever-ware files, so I installed Firefox on it. Next month was the same, and the next.

I ended up installing 2 Antivirus (Zone Alarm Suite and F-Prot32), 3 anti spyware tools (Ad Aware, Spybot and MS own), had the 2 firewalls enabled, enabled ALL the features of pop up blocking, ad block in ZA, added site restriction and even parental restrictions in both ZA and IE. I scheduled all the tools for auto update and to have all of those tools scan the machine once a day, Auto protection was on, etc etc etc. 

Guess what? Next month I had to clean up over 4000 files again....I got tired and told him I was going to treat him like a client and not a fried and charge him for the clean ups....no more spyware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common culprit is Java&#8230;.how makes this Firefox&#8217;s guilty?&#8230;.I mean, how many browsers did the same?</p>
<p>Sounds more like anti Firefox rant than anything else. As the rest of the people here said, nothing is 100% secure&#8230;.at the very end is in the users hands.</p>
<p>I once built a machine for a friend&#8230;..once every month I had to clean up over 4000 whatever-ware files, so I installed Firefox on it. Next month was the same, and the next.</p>
<p>I ended up installing 2 Antivirus (Zone Alarm Suite and F-Prot32), 3 anti spyware tools (Ad Aware, Spybot and MS own), had the 2 firewalls enabled, enabled ALL the features of pop up blocking, ad block in ZA, added site restriction and even parental restrictions in both ZA and IE. I scheduled all the tools for auto update and to have all of those tools scan the machine once a day, Auto protection was on, etc etc etc. </p>
<p>Guess what? Next month I had to clean up over 4000 files again&#8230;.I got tired and told him I was going to treat him like a client and not a fried and charge him for the clean ups&#8230;.no more spyware.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-15270</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-15270</guid>
		<description>Well using a nice product called RegDefend (from Ghost Security) the installs could have been blocked from making their registry changes

Admittedly not many people will have heard of the application but it is quite useful

http://www.ghostsecurity.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well using a nice product called RegDefend (from Ghost Security) the installs could have been blocked from making their registry changes</p>
<p>Admittedly not many people will have heard of the application but it is quite useful</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ghostsecurity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ghostsecurity.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11022</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11022</guid>
		<description>I have Sun's Java 2 (v 1.5.0 - build 1.5.0_01-b08 - ) &#038; Firefox 1.0.1 installed here, and yet it took me a *great* deal of effort before I came to see the 'Security Warning'.

And how, pray tell, did I find myself in this near "lockdown" condition? I habitually &#038; usually run Firefox without allowing Java &#038; Javascript run-permission[s], plus I use "Proxomitron" (v 4.5J) as a local web-proxy. In order to see the above-mentioned "Warning", I had to enable both Java/Javascript, then disable Proxomitron (reloading the desired website after each action).

Running Firefox as I usually do, I would *never* have seen the aformentioned *undesirable* popup/window. In my humble opinion, Firefox is *more* than safe-enough. Then again; "Stupidity knows *no* season", re users who enable their browsers to run "Everything, ALL the time."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Sun&#8217;s Java 2 (v 1.5.0 - build 1.5.0_01-b08 - ) &#038; Firefox 1.0.1 installed here, and yet it took me a *great* deal of effort before I came to see the &#8216;Security Warning&#8217;.</p>
<p>And how, pray tell, did I find myself in this near &#8220;lockdown&#8221; condition? I habitually &#038; usually run Firefox without allowing Java &#038; Javascript run-permission[s], plus I use &#8220;Proxomitron&#8221; (v 4.5J) as a local web-proxy. In order to see the above-mentioned &#8220;Warning&#8221;, I had to enable both Java/Javascript, then disable Proxomitron (reloading the desired website after each action).</p>
<p>Running Firefox as I usually do, I would *never* have seen the aformentioned *undesirable* popup/window. In my humble opinion, Firefox is *more* than safe-enough. Then again; &#8220;Stupidity knows *no* season&#8221;, re users who enable their browsers to run &#8220;Everything, ALL the time.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11006</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 03:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11006</guid>
		<description>I have to agree. But at least Firefox has more clear Warning messages, IE warnings are all the same, you didn't know for the first that it was a javascript error or you just installed an activeX control from manyspywares.com.

Otherway a few warning is much better, than a not working, but important page (your banks homepage for example).

Security is not the main reason I think the most people would prefer Firefox. Internet security always has to depend on the user. You can't make a much more secure browser than Firefox or IE. If you're afraid of these thing you can still use Lynx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree. But at least Firefox has more clear Warning messages, IE warnings are all the same, you didn&#8217;t know for the first that it was a javascript error or you just installed an activeX control from manyspywares.com.</p>
<p>Otherway a few warning is much better, than a not working, but important page (your banks homepage for example).</p>
<p>Security is not the main reason I think the most people would prefer Firefox. Internet security always has to depend on the user. You can&#8217;t make a much more secure browser than Firefox or IE. If you&#8217;re afraid of these thing you can still use Lynx.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11004</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11004</guid>
		<description>The clue for the user should have been the Warning Security Window!!!
Normally Java applets (programs that are embedded in webpages) can only play a sound, connect to the computer it was downloaded from, display information and very little else.  Java prevents most applets from storing files on your computers and such.  If an Applet needs to have additional power, then it needs to be signed.  A signed applet can do anything that any program residing on your computer can do such as change the registry, read files, delete files, write files, change files, send spam, and much more.  BE VERY CAREFUL BEFORE ACCEPTING ANY  *****SIGNED*** APPLET.

If the window says Publisher authenticity cannot be verified, it means that the applet was not signed by a certificate that your browser reconizes.  If it says that that the security certificate was issued by a company that is not trusted, that means that the party that signed the applet did not setup a verification with a certificate company that your browser trusts.  

Even accepting a signed applet by a trusted company does not mean that you are safe.  It only means that someone paid a certificate issuing company (that is trusted by your browser) money to be allowed to use a code signing certificate issued by them.  

A good rule of thumb is,  "If you don't trust the website operator to have access to your computer, don't accept the signed applet!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The clue for the user should have been the Warning Security Window!!!<br />
Normally Java applets (programs that are embedded in webpages) can only play a sound, connect to the computer it was downloaded from, display information and very little else.  Java prevents most applets from storing files on your computers and such.  If an Applet needs to have additional power, then it needs to be signed.  A signed applet can do anything that any program residing on your computer can do such as change the registry, read files, delete files, write files, change files, send spam, and much more.  BE VERY CAREFUL BEFORE ACCEPTING ANY  *****SIGNED*** APPLET.</p>
<p>If the window says Publisher authenticity cannot be verified, it means that the applet was not signed by a certificate that your browser reconizes.  If it says that that the security certificate was issued by a company that is not trusted, that means that the party that signed the applet did not setup a verification with a certificate company that your browser trusts.  </p>
<p>Even accepting a signed applet by a trusted company does not mean that you are safe.  It only means that someone paid a certificate issuing company (that is trusted by your browser) money to be allowed to use a code signing certificate issued by them.  </p>
<p>A good rule of thumb is,  &#8220;If you don&#8217;t trust the website operator to have access to your computer, don&#8217;t accept the signed applet!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11003</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 02:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/4191#comment-11003</guid>
		<description>c'mon, if you agree to install something unknown (and ignoring a security warning), no browser can keep you from getting in trouble.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c&#8217;mon, if you agree to install something unknown (and ignoring a security warning), no browser can keep you from getting in trouble.</p>
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