Dear Trolls and Shills …
p2pnet view P2P:- “Takes a deep breath”, I posted the beginning of last year, going on, “I’d hoped I was done with comment spam, but apparently not. Please, if you’ve had enough of the subject, carry on.
“But if you’re still here, below are a few more words on it” and “I hope they’ll be the last”, I said.
Sadly, I was wrong. I’ve just deleted a repeat diatribe aimed at Jammie Thomas-Rasset.
So let me also repeat what I said in February, 2009 >>>
p2pnet started off as a music site but over the past six years it’s become an advocacy and information area.
I believe anyone anywhere should be allowed to say what they want without interference. I’m also a musician and because music is so important to me, I was drawn to the conflict between the corporate music industry and people who keep it going and, by default, the movie industry. That, and digital media and distributed computing in general, tend to be the main subjects on p2pnet.
p2pnet isn’t an online version of Speaker’s Corner in Hyde Park in England, a place where people go to expound their ideas to anyone who’ll listen.
I added, “Censorship? Not at all. Drawing lines? Definitely. I wish I didn’t have to do this, but my time is limited and I don’t want to waste any more of it on this kind of thing.
“I hope you’ll understand, and my apologies to anyone who’s offended by this. If you decide you don’t want to visit p2pnet any more, that’s your choice, but I’ll be sorry to see you go.”
I’ll continue to delete posts which aren’t doing anything other than repeating the same thing in different ways, or which are obvious plants from vested interests. And if you think I’m being unfair, sorry about that.
If you’re a shill, you won’t get anywhere here.
But if you’re someone who thinks p2pnet is somewhere you can say whatever you want, whenever you want, there is a fail-safe, guaranteed effective solution.
Start your own site/blog.
Cheers!
Jon
November, 2010
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November 8th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
I find it odd about the net that some folks think their words are unalterable on a nonpermanet media.
One is that some yo yo thinks it’s his god given right to spout whatever is the current burr under his bonnet, wherever and whenever it should strike the fancy. Further that once done, because he took the time to rattle a few keys that it has been carved in stone somewhere, never to be changed nor edited though out the remaining time of the ages.
Not once does some character like that consider that it isn’t his resources that are holding the “stone”. It never occurs to them that the “stone” is the internet, a place where nothing is permanent and everything can be changed. This has been proven time and again. So much so that if you want “proof” that something existed, you best have a copy of it at the moment it comes into eyesight. If you don’t 5 seconds after something proves to be an embarrassment it’s gone or changed.
Major screwups are often rectified in terms of use, or in any sort of on line document by minor or major changes, or even whole sale editing or removal. Anyone coming along after the edit, would swear it’s always been that way unless they know better. Even if they know better, it can’t be proven a change without a screenshot showing the original. The proof is just as dicey because it too can be changed to be anything someone wants it to be.
No one has a ‘right’ to expect permanency under those conditions, much less an obnoxious post or someone with bias to start with.
The other thing about the net is the variety. If your viewpoints don’t align with the place you’re at, rest assured there is someplace else that does, if you wanna preach to the choir.
It is one thing to be Devil’s Advocate to stir up controversy and interest. It’s even ok to state a differing of opinion when you believe that to be so. In the past 4 years or so of being on P2Pnet, I have never, ever, had one post edited nor removed on the basis of content. (I have had them edited on the basis of my poor spelling or grammar with no objection whatever from me.) I sure haven’t agreed with Jon on all points either.
I’ve never seen Jon be anything but fair in all this time. There’s been times when you could see him pulling his hair out (mental viewpoint) when dealing with the constant deluge of spam and idiots.
I would venture that the event that brought about this diatribe above was one of those yo yo’s that think you’re stealing. Most obviously because you have an internet and don’t agree with their ‘god given righteousness’, on the topic.
The major labels are anything but morally right. You see it all the time with some of the stupid actions they take. Hear or read text with 1/3 belief at best but look to actions to speak the loudest in line with the real beliefs not stated.
November 8th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
nice post. I’m from the US and a fair amount of people think our 1st amendment right gives us the ability to say anything, anywhere without any kind of consequences. In actuality, it only says the government cannot punish you for saying something (with a few minor exceptions for actual threats, slander, etc). I wish all blog owners deleted stupid posts that did nothing to advance the conversation. I especially like your last line; if they don’t like your rules, they can start their own blog.
November 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
“It is one thing to be Devil’s Advocate…”
I might be somewhat familiar with that.
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